Super User smalljaw67 Posted March 8, 2016 Super User Posted March 8, 2016 This is why I will not buy a reel second hand or a demonstration model. When it comes to a casting reel I never buy a reel that is under $100, never. I'm not made of money, I wait for reels to go on sale or new versions to come out but I try to get a decent reel. What has turned me off to less expensive reels is helping guys in the club with walmart specials, specifically the Lews Laser models and the Abu Garcia black Max reels . The Calera doesn't look to be a bad reel but it has a graphite frame and one good drop may cause a problem, what I'm guessing is a lot of these reels have a washer inside the spool tension knob and they wear out and it either causes squealing or it doesn't allow the user to get enough tension on the spool to make a good cast, basically no tension at all. To the OP, it doesn't mean to stay away from Okuma, basically any casting reel you get can have a problem from any brand, but if you are set on buying an inexpensive reel, buy it new, that way you can return it if there is a problem, as I said, I think you're better off spending a few dollars more but to each their own. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted March 9, 2016 Super User Posted March 9, 2016 On 3/7/2016 at 5:31 PM, Cody Keegan said: Nope it was working for awhile now it's starting to do this just turning me off baitcasters even more haha Try not to let one bad experience turn you off. Baitcast reels are a blast to use. I know zilch about your reel. My only Okumas are Helios Air reels, and I think they are fantastic. Keep in mind that shipping and repair cost might not be feasible with a reel that costs about $75 new. Depends on how attached you are to it. I'm guessing shipping both ways and labor would be $30 or a bit more plus any necessary parts. You do get a 10% discount for labor from Mike if you mention you are a member of bassresource. If you decide on getting another reel and want to keep price at the $75 mark, I'd first look for used. I've gotten some good deals from the Flea Market. I'm like smaljaw67...I'd rather add another $25 to my budget and get a reel that cost $150 or more new. My last used reel was a Revo Premier. Don't recall offhand, but it was in the $100-$130 neighborhood for a reel in excellent condition. It was a $250 reel new. Can't beat that with a 10 foot stick. 2 Quote
Cody Keegan Posted March 9, 2016 Author Posted March 9, 2016 I just had such a bad time with them, Like when they casted well it was so much fun and easier to fish but when it bird nested.. That was the worst. Haha I just know you need to use them in certain situations that spinning reels won't cut it so I'm trying my hardest to get good (reason why I wanna fix this reel) Quote
Ridi620 Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 14 hours ago, smalljaw67 said: This is why I will not buy a reel second hand or a demonstration model. When it comes to a casting reel I never buy a reel that is under $100, never. I'm not made of money, I wait for reels to go on sale or new versions to come out but I try to get a decent reel. What has turned me off to less expensive reels is helping guys in the club with walmart specials, specifically the Lews Laser models and the Abu Garcia black Max reels . The Calera doesn't look to be a bad reel but it has a graphite frame and one good drop may cause a problem, what I'm guessing is a lot of these reels have a washer inside the spool tension knob and they wear out and it either causes squealing or it doesn't allow the user to get enough tension on the spool to make a good cast, basically no tension at all. To the OP, it doesn't mean to stay away from Okuma, basically any casting reel you get can have a problem from any brand, but if you are set on buying an inexpensive reel, buy it new, that way you can return it if there is a problem, as I said, I think you're better off spending a few dollars more but to each their own. I disagree with this one hundred percent, no offense. I had no experience with a baitcaster at all before I bought the black max reel for $40. Sure, I had a rough time with it the first few outings but if you practice you will get better. eventually it will become second nature. There are a lot of youtube tutorials on how to get better with a baitcaster, baitcasting for beginners, etc. Another reason I disagree with this is both of my brothers got $300 baitcasters as their first reel and had the same problems I had. Eventually we all got the hang of it. If you have the money, by all means get the best product out there, it might take you less practice before getting it. But If youre in the same boat as me, the "cheaper" reels are fine. Just put in the hours to learn it. It is worth it in the end. Good luck! Quote
GetJigginWithIt Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 On 3/8/2016 at 8:02 PM, JigMe said: what about you star drag? did you check that? Star drag has nothing to do with free spool. When the spool is in free spin, the main gear does not move at all. The star drag controls the main gear. When a fish takes line, the drag allows the main gear to release and spin backwards. To the OP, i would bet that inside the spool tension cap, the spacer friction washer is missing or possibly broken. If you take the cap off and look inside, is there anything inside the cap? Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted March 9, 2016 Super User Posted March 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, GetJigginWithIt said: Star drag has nothing to do with free spool. When the spool is in free spin, the main gear does not move at all. The star drag controls the main gear. When a fish takes line, the drag allows the main gear to release and spin backwards. To the OP, i would bet that inside the spool tension cap, the spacer friction washer is missing or possibly broken. If you take the cap off and look inside, is there anything inside the cap? I had been asking this for about 5 posts.... Quote
Jaderose Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 Send it to DVT and go get you a BPS Pro Qualifier. I can't imagine a better reel for a beginner. That Dual Brake system works Quote
Slade House Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 buy daiwa new, with the tension control knob and backlash knob too, and be happy as you don't want a Lews , Okuma, Shimano or anything else Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted March 9, 2016 Super User Posted March 9, 2016 5 hours ago, Jaderose said: Send it to DVT and go get you a BPS Pro Qualifier. I can't imagine a better reel for a beginner. That Dual Brake system works This guy is having a problem with his PQ. However, I have to think there is a problem with his particular reel...if it is set up correctly....since the PQ is a top rated reel at the $100 and under price point in every such thread. 31 minutes ago, Slade House said: buy daiwa new, with the tension control knob and backlash knob too, and be happy as you don't want a Lews , Okuma, Shimano or anything else Whoa! Down boy. Why not? Trying to start a brand war? About half my reels are Daiwas. I have those other brands you mentioned plus a few others. I am happy with all but two of them...of which one happens to be a Daiwa. I'm hoping a thorough cleaning will solve my displeasure with it and the other reel. The occasional bad reel will slip through QC. That is what a warranty is for. Quote
GetJigginWithIt Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 7 hours ago, kickerfish1 said: I had been asking this for about 5 posts.... Yeah I saw that and still no answer. Quote
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