baitcasting problem.

[Cody Keegan]

OK OK I'm new to this site, I can't find anything about this all over google, I even emailed the company with no response I backed my reel with mono and then attached the braid and reeled it on my spool tightly ANY suitable lure I throw on it FLYS OFF the spool at the 10 o'clock position even when my control knob is tight and brakes to 10 I seriously can't figure it out I'm pretty sure theres a problem inside the reel ( sorry I'm really new to baitcasters don't tear me apart ahaha!! )

 

Thanks!

[JigMe]

Are you looking to found out how to use a baitcaster reel? setup? If so, Glenn's got a good video on youtube and here is the link.

 

[Cody Keegan]

No like that's the problem with the reel.. It fly's off the spool from the 10 oclock poistion no matter how much I tighten it up and put it to 10 it's like it goes to free spool automatically no way of stopping it. ( like I can't slow it down nothing nothing makes it go slower or ever stop it it's like the tension knob and brake midaswell not be there)

[JigMe]

First of all, baitcaster should have some sort of braking systems (ex. centrifugal) on one side of the reel and a tension knob on the other side (located under the reel handle). Make sure they are set correctly, and you might need to practice your timing of release on line spool. If you think that the reel is broke, then either return it or send it DVT to have Mike look at it. 

 

 

 

[Dan_the_fisher]

13 minutes ago, Cody Keegan said:

No like that's the problem with the reel.. It fly's off the spool from the 10 oclock poistion no matter how much I tighten it up and put it to 10 it's like it goes to free spool automatically no way of stopping it. ( like I can't slow it down nothing nothing makes it go slower or ever stop it it's like the tension knob and brake midaswell not be there)

What brand and model reel you have?

[Cody Keegan]

4 minutes ago, Dan_the_fisher said:

What brand and model reel you have?

Okuma Calera Left

[Dan_the_fisher]

Did you buy it new like this? Assuming you are using it correctly(tension knob) it is having some reel issues 

[Cody Keegan]

Nope it was working for awhile now it's starting to do this just turning me off baitcasters even more haha

[kickerfish1]

https://www.google.com/search?q=Okuma+calera&biw=1093&bih=538&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2gcnm96_LAhVhsoMKHaZpANoQ_AUICCgD&dpr=1.25#imgdii=pdBpIDmkOjbOYM%3A%3BpdBpIDmkOjbOYM%3A%3BFONS_IMiBlPCbM%3A&imgrc=pdBpIDmkOjbOYM%3A

Take a look at the photos in the link above of your reel. You have 3 different ways to add breaking to the spool.

1. The magnetic brake dial on the outside of the reel located on the palming side - Adjust this fairly tight when starting out.

2. Take off the side plate and increase the internal centrifugal brakes. You will see a small red lever next to the numbers. This will need to be increased as well.

3. There is a small circular tension knob on the outside. This will be located just above your handle. Tighten this down to the point that as you press the thumb bar to start the bait in free fall, the bait falls at a fairly slow rate and when the bait hits the ground the spool doesn't over spin an cause an over run.

** Lastly you may have too much line spooled on the reel. Remember that overfilling the reel with line past the 1/8 or 1/16 of an inch below the top will cause the line to jump off the reel and become nearly uncontrollable.

In the event that you bought the reel used it could be missing the tension washer pad(s) inside the the cast control cap. If you tighten in all the way down and it doesn't get any tighter than this is likely the issue.

[Cody Keegan]

2 minutes ago, kickerfish1 said:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Okuma+calera&biw=1093&bih=538&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2gcnm96_LAhVhsoMKHaZpANoQ_AUICCgD&dpr=1.25#imgdii=pdBpIDmkOjbOYM%3A%3BpdBpIDmkOjbOYM%3A%3BFONS_IMiBlPCbM%3A&imgrc=pdBpIDmkOjbOYM%3A

Take a look at the photos in the link above of your reel. You have 3 different ways to add breaking to the spool.

1. The magnetic brake dial on the outside of the reel located on the palming side - Adjust this fairly tight when starting out.

2. Take off the side plate and increase the internal centrifugal brakes. You will see a small red lever next to the numbers. This will need to be increased as well.

3. There is a small circular tension knob on the outside. This will be located just above your handle. Tighten this down to the point that as you press the thumb bar to start the bait in free fall, the bait falls at a fairly slow rate and when the bait hits the ground the spool doesn't over spin an cause an over run.

** Lastly you may have too much line spooled on the reel. Remember that overfilling the reel with line past the 1/8 or 1/16 of an inch below the top will cause the line to jump off the reel and become nearly uncontrollable.

In the event that you bought the reel used it could be missing the tension washer pad(s) inside the the cast control cap. If you tighten in all the way down and it doesn't get any tighter than this is likely the issue.

See I saw this, the tension knob is tight as it can get and the magnetic is at 10 and its STILL flying off. And im positive there's not too much line on it reason why I'm thinking something inside is shot and it's messed up.

[kickerfish1]

Did you remove the side cap and adjust the red lever for the internal brakes?

When you engage the thumb bar and put the reel in free spool does the lure fall slowly to the ground. It should drop like a rock with knob set loose and it should either barely fall or not fall at all with it tight.

[Cody Keegan]

16 minutes ago, kickerfish1 said:

Did you remove the side cap and adjust the red lever for the internal brakes?

When you engage the thumb bar and put the reel in free spool does the lure fall slowly to the ground. It should drop like a rock with knob set loose and it should either barely fall or not fall at all with it tight.

Yup all the way up its STILL flying. Makes no sense.

[JigMe]

2 minutes ago, Cody Keegan said:

Yup all the way up its STILL flying. Makes no sense.

what about you star drag? did you check that?

[Cody Keegan]

Yeah loose to tight doesn't matter. Just fly's off. I think it's pooched. Haha

[kickerfish1]

Do you have the reel schematic? Look to make sure the tension knob has the friction washer(s) inside it. They will look like flat tabs and will be on the bottom of the tension knob when you remove it.

Other than that I would say post a picture of your internal brake settings and external brake setting. I would have a hard time believing that the reel worked perfect and now it is uncontrollable without you or somebody else changing the settings or tinkering with something inside it.

I had the Okuma Komodo a few years ago but sold its as I didn't like the adjustment for the internal brakes. Yours has dual brakes so assuming they are set correctly and the tension knob as well as having all internal parts in the correct place and working properly I don't know what to tell you.

[Airman4754]

57 minutes ago, Cody Keegan said:

Okuma Calera Left

I have an Okuma Krios that is the exact same way. The magnetics are maxed and the brake is tightened all the way. Any cast with some zip and it blows up. 

 

[Cody Keegan]

22 minutes ago, kickerfish1 said:

Do you have the reel schematic? Look to make sure the tension knob has the friction washer(s) inside it. They will look like flat tabs and will be on the bottom of the tension knob when you remove it.

Other than that I would say post a picture of your internal brake settings and external brake setting. I would have a hard time believing that the reel worked perfect and now it is uncontrollable without you or somebody else changing the settings or tinkering with something inside it.

I had the Okuma Komodo a few years ago but sold its as I didn't like the adjustment for the internal brakes. Yours has dual brakes so assuming they are set correctly and the tension knob as well as having all internal parts in the correct place and working properly I don't know what to tell you.

http://imgur.com/a/XRAey

[kickerfish1]

I can see that you have the internal and external brakes set to max. At this setting it should be near impossible to backlash even with some force behind it. Your 3rd photo doesn't excactly show the tension cap with is the small cap you removed. If there is a spacer in there that is the next question. If you by you adjusting the tension knob from tight to lose controls the fall rate than that isn't the issue either and it is beyond my knowledge. You could also try removing about 10 yards of line to see if that doesn't help some. If not you have 3 options.

1. Contact Okuma to have it replaced or fixed assuming it is still under warranty

2. Send it to reel service tech to have them look at it see if they can find something wrong with it

3. Take it back or ship it back to where you bought it - perhaps they would refund if the product is defective but they would probably point you to the manufacturer.

[Chance_Taker4]

I read people are helping you setup your casting reel but I think (correct me if I'm wrong) but you are saying you tightened the tension knob and brakes and when you depress the spool, without casting, they lure still pulls the spool. Is that it's the case yes there Is something not working in the tension knob I would Cantact Okuma again or have Dvt look at it for you.

[Cody Keegan]

I'm pretty sure it's out of warranty.. If it is should I just buy a new reel and stay away from Okuma?

[kickerfish1]

https://www.google.com/search?q=Tension+knob+for+baitcaster&biw=1093&bih=538&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwidyZiQjbDLAhUqmIMKHbQJBZoQ_AUICCgD#imgrc=s5NgV0EAYC_z6M%3A

Here is a picture in the link of the part I am talking about in the tension knob. If this part is missing it could be the reason why the spool is still spinning fast.

2 minutes ago, Cody Keegan said:

I'm pretty sure it's out of warranty.. If it is should I just buy a new reel and stay away from Okuma?

I may get slammed for this but that is ok. I personally would by the Shimano Citica 200E in the Flea Market here for the price posted. You won't find a better built reel and a more user friendly reel for the money. If not I would shop for any lightly used E series reel from Shimano as they are well built and very easy to use and maintain.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

I wouldn't mind having a look at this reel. I've never heard of such a thing as braking going in and out. typically they work or they don't . Send it if you want. 

[Chance_Taker4]

1 hour ago, Cody Keegan said:

I'm pretty sure it's out of warranty.. If it is should I just buy a new reel and stay away from Okuma?

I would have DVT look at it. Ive never had a problem with Okuma I love their Helios reels. It may just be defective. If you are looking for a new reel always check the flea market wether you buy Shimano or whatever. Personally I am not a fam of Shimano but to each their own

[papajoe222]

Sounds like you may be missing the spool tension spacer. Without it, despite tightening down on the knob, no tension is placed on the spool shaft.  Check the schematic against what you find under the cap.  If everything is there, send it off to DVT.

[Cody Keegan]

17 hours ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

I wouldn't mind having a look at this reel. I've never heard of such a thing as braking going in and out. typically they work or they don't . Send it if you want. 

Emailed you good sir!