juicebass Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 I've seen a lot of different opinions and was wondering when to use these two different hooks for throwing plastics. Im assuming a heavy flipping hook is more for heavy vegitation and cover? And using an offset would be better for more open water/less vegitation spots? thanks! Quote
Super User gardnerjigman Posted March 1, 2016 Super User Posted March 1, 2016 I pair it more with my set up. Straight shank flipping hook with a heavy or x heavy flipping rod and 50# braid. Heavy wire ewg on 15-20# fluorocarbon for t rigs and such on a medium heavy. Light wire ewg for 12# and under on a medium to medium light rod. I've always looked at the amount of force it's going to take to dig in the hook factoring in my rods backbone. The above has never failed me. 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted March 2, 2016 Global Moderator Posted March 2, 2016 For some reason, the straight shank hook has to be fished with braid for me. I don't know if it requires extra force to bury them, but I never could hook a fish (literally a 0% hookup ratio after several bites on a few different attempts), with my typical T rigging equipment. Give me my punching rod with 50lb braid, I rarely miss a fish with them. So for me, heavy cover flipping with braid=straight shank. Casting and pitching with copolymer=EWG 2 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted March 2, 2016 Global Moderator Posted March 2, 2016 On 3/1/2016 at 11:03 AM, juicebass said: I've seen a lot of different opinions and was wondering when to use these two different hooks for throwing plastics. Im assuming a heavy flipping hook is more for heavy vegitation and cover? And using an offset would be better for more open water/less vegitation spots? thanks! Yep..That's how I do it Mike 1 Quote
Silas Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 Just today my local tackle dealer was telling me he caught a few bass a couple of days ago on a black/ blue Mr Twister beaver type plastic with a SNELL TIED VMC straight shank Flipping 3/0 hook with a 3/16 weight pitching and flipping. 17 lb XL Trilne. Just now rigged my Curado 100D and ----M/h new model 7'3 inch Rod with the improved one piece cork handle. I have 12# test Yozuri on the reel so I'll see if that works. It was a sunny 68 degrees today. Thank goodness I'm in the South!! 1 Quote
massrob Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 I just learned how to tie a snell knot the other day and went out fishing for the first time this year and caught my first fish flipping ever and first fish of the year. I think I'm going to try a flippin hook with other baits like big worms I've seen pros who only use straight shank hooks for soft plastics I think it was Gary Klein. Quote
frogflogger Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 unless it is a fat plastic I've never seen a need for anything other than a straight shank hook - #2 to 5/0 - 6# mono to 65# braid I know of no other hook that is as effective. Although I did have a love affair for years with the tru turn hooks just don't see them much anymore. Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted March 3, 2016 Super User Posted March 3, 2016 For me, straight shank hooks are for use with heavy power rod with 50lb braid, any line with a MH rod will get a heavy wire EWG and if I'm fishing a medium heavy or medium power rod with 12# or less line, then it is a regular wire offset hook and the worm size determines if it is a round bend or EWG style. Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 3, 2016 Super User Posted March 3, 2016 Straight shank round bend up to the diameter of a Senko then it's EWG! Quote
juicebass Posted March 7, 2016 Author Posted March 7, 2016 On March 2, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Silas said: Just today my local tackle dealer was telling me he caught a few bass a couple of days ago on a black/ blue Mr Twister beaver type plastic with a SNELL TIED VMC straight shank Flipping 3/0 hook with a 3/16 weight pitching and flipping. 17 lb XL Trilne. Just now rigged my Curado 100D and ----M/h new model 7'3 inch Rod with the improved one piece cork handle. I have 12# test Yozuri on the reel so I'll see if that works. It was a sunny 68 degrees today. Thank goodness I'm in the South!! Nice man! How did the set up work?? On March 3, 2016 at 7:00 AM, frogflogger said: unless it is a fat plastic I've never seen a need for anything other than a straight shank hook - #2 to 5/0 - 6# mono to 65# braid I know of no other hook that is as effective. Although I did have a love affair for years with the tru turn hooks just don't see them much anymore. I tried rigging the snell knot up today and was wondering.. Do I put the bait all the way over the eye of the straight shank? Or do I just put it below on the keeper? I put a 1 1/2 tungsten flipping weight and it seemed to make my bait crooked. And It wasn't as straight as I can get it on a ewg hook. Thoughts? im worries to try the straight shank this coming season and miss some fish cuz I'm baiting the hook wrong.. Quote
Silas Posted March 7, 2016 Posted March 7, 2016 I put my hook up above keeper but not cover the eye. The bait seems to Hang crooked but you will notice if you hold the weight and pull the lure up, it ***** to one side. That's a good thing since it gives a nice hook set usually in top of their mouth. Don't worry about the way it hangs It straightens out as it falls in the water column Went today but 22 mph East winds howling and I came in soon, fish less. Nice 72 degrees and front coming tonite. 1 Quote
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