Vaping

[Catch and Grease]

8 hours ago, Alonerankin2 said:

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/health-risks-e-cigarettes-emerge

There are many opinions & studies. Like I said before, safer than Cigarettes, perhaps..but safe? I don't see how.

Finally someone post an actual article, I wonder if they have any more recent ones. Interesting stuff.

[quanjig]

9 hours ago, Alonerankin2 said:

 

Created on Wednesday, 17 April 2013 07:33

 
Determination of acrolein and other carbonyls in cigarette smoke (but they also tested an e-cigarette)

I was recently informed about an old study from 2010, that has been used by various health authorities as an argument for the risks imposed by e-cigarettes. Moreover, it has raised a lot of controversy and confusion among vapers, because the methodology cannot be easily understood.
 

When I was informed about this, at first I read the abstract and the “Methods” section. No mention of electronic cigarette or of any tests on electronic cigarette in these setions. So, I posted a comment on facebook that it has nothing to do with the e-cigarette. However, out of nowhere (or from the sky, as we say in Greece) came a paragraph in “Results” section, discussing about tests on electronic cigarettes and detection of significant levels of acrolein and formaldehyde.
 

So, it is important to make it clear to everyone. First of all, it is indeed a test on electronic cigarette (probably a first generation, vacuum-activated, cigarette-like device). People reading the study got confused about the HQ-DNPH cartridges that were connected to the e-cigarette. To make it easier to understand, these are small boxes that are attached at the mouth-tip of the e-cigarette, allow air to pass through them and trap acrolein. So, they applied vacuum in order to activate the e-cigarette, and air+vapor passed through these externally attached boxes that trapped acrolein. It was indeed a test of e-cigarette.
 

BUT, the methodology used is completely unacceptable. They applied vacuum at flow rates of 500ml/min. Considering that vapers most probably take 50-70ml puffs in 4 seconds, they used a flow rate similar to taking 10 puffs per minute. Impossible for anyone to do. Moreover, they do not mention for how long they applied this vacuum. Did they do it for 1 minute? Meaning that the e-cigarette device was continuously activated for 1 minute, causing such overheat that it would be unbearable for any vaper to use it. I suspect that several parts of the e-cigarette internals should have melted by following such a procedure. Therefore, I am not surprized that they found such chemicals.
 

In conclusion, yes, they tested an e-cigarette. In conditions that no vaper is able to use it. The paper is overall an excellent example of bias and misinformation. No reference to e-cigarette is mentioned in the “Methods” section, no information on e-cigarette handling was provided in “Results” section. And arbitrary conclusions were made from this study, which are non-applicable to real use. I can understand that some media and journalists might use this study to support an article about the risks of e-cigarettes. I would understand their confusion from reading such a bad paper. However, for public health authorities to refer to this study, it is a complete disgrace!

 

Here is some research done by a respected Dr in the field. 

Cardiologist Dr Konstantinos Farsilanos

[Nice_Bass]

Seems to be a lot of naysayers that really have no perspective.  Weird.

Anyhow, going to be coming up on 3 weeks soon enough without an e-cig which weaned me off of smoking for over a decade which came off of chewing tobacco. 

yeah, I guess vaping is only for hipsters! 

That being said, the transition from vaping was really hard, but looking back I still don't know if it would have been different from quitting smoking.  I don't recall trying to do that being enjoyable either. 

As a heavy drinker it has been pretty tough to know what to do with myself in that regards...but I don't plan on giving up drinking anytime soon...and yes folks, I realize drinking can cause other health problems and I should not do it while pregnant.  Got it. 

[EricTheAngler]

To each his own is what I have learned in this thread. But we all can agree that fishing is a healthy and safe pastime we all enjoy here on the bass resource forums!  

[Bluebasser86]

I think this has pretty much been done to death.

 

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