Super User iabass8 Posted February 25, 2016 Super User Posted February 25, 2016 1 hour ago, smallie.mike said: I'm talking about the cage inside the bearing that holds the rollers like in the picture above. That bearing can't be taken apart. My god..... I'm not sure if you're trying to argue just to argue or legitimately asking but I'll answer either way. The bearing pictured in the first post is a generic image of an AR bearing that vendors use. (If you search for Shimano AR bearings, you will find pcitures ranging from blue, white, brown, and clear cages and housing. The one pictured is used by Boca and others.) If you are having an issue /w your instant AR, you can remove the bearing from the reel and disassemble it. By disassembling the bearing (again, I'm not sure if you're just trying to internet argue or asking. I assumed when explaining previously that I was answering somebody /w some knowledge of the the bearing itself) I was referring to removing the rollers to clean them. This is the part of the bearing that can see excessive wear, grit, grim, etc but having to take them out (or the entire bearing itself) is almost never necessary unless you are indeed having AR issues. Depending on the type of AR bearing, you indeed can take them apart (including the cage/housing the hold the rollers in). In case you still don't get it, I have included a picture from a Diawa Luna of an AR bearing completely disassembled that I got from a different forum. If you're going to tell people what they can and cannot do, be correct in doing so. Quote
MRG Posted February 25, 2016 Posted February 25, 2016 Apparently, I'm not the only fool who takes apart anti-reverse bearings... Quote
Texas_Rig_Aggie Posted February 25, 2016 Author Posted February 25, 2016 Yeah I've been trying to get all of this done and it's taken me like a week and a half 22 minutes ago, MRG said: Apparently, I'm not the only fool who takes apart anti-reverse bearings... I just want to be able to maintain a reel to the best of my abilities but now it's looking like I bit off more than I can chew Quote
Lendiesel22 Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 Great, now I wanna take mine apart. Quote
smallie.mike Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 17 hours ago, iabass8 said: My god..... I'm not sure if you're trying to argue just to argue or legitimately asking but I'll answer either way. The bearing pictured in the first post is a generic image of an AR bearing that vendors use. (If you search for Shimano AR bearings, you will find pcitures ranging from blue, white, brown, and clear cages and housing. The one pictured is used by Boca and others.) If you are having an issue /w your instant AR, you can remove the bearing from the reel and disassemble it. By disassembling the bearing (again, I'm not sure if you're just trying to internet argue or asking. I assumed when explaining previously that I was answering somebody /w some knowledge of the the bearing itself) I was referring to removing the rollers to clean them. This is the part of the bearing that can see excessive wear, grit, grim, etc but having to take them out (or the entire bearing itself) is almost never necessary unless you are indeed having AR issues. Depending on the type of AR bearing, you indeed can take them apart (including the cage/housing the hold the rollers in). In case you still don't get it, I have included a picture from a Diawa Luna of an AR bearing completely disassembled that I got from a different forum. If you're going to tell people what they can and cannot do, be correct in doing so. Not all AR bearings come apart like the one in that picture. And most people would never take them apart because it's easy to damage that roller cage on most AR bearings because it takes quite a bit of force to press it out. My point is that brake cleaner could possibly damage the plastic or composite cages in ar bearings and some regular bearings that have plastic cages. Quote
Josh Smith Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 You know, I think I will stick to replacing close-tolerance components. I've seen too many finely machined parts fail after disassembly. YMMV. Josh Quote
Lendiesel22 Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 Nothing wrong with the safe play. If it comes down to it just order a new bearing and install. 1 Quote
Weightless Lizard Posted February 27, 2016 Posted February 27, 2016 I soak my bearings overnight in Mineral Spirits. Make sure they are completely dry befor oiling. I bought some needle oilers cheap on eBay and use them for really small components on fishing reels and model trains etc... It has a nice long needle size applicator so you can apply a small amount of oil to heard to spots. I use Abu oil. 1 Quote
cyclops2 Posted May 8, 2022 Posted May 8, 2022 I am the luckiest reel guy in the universe. I have only OPENED up 1 reel in my fishing life. I dropped the rod and reel into the water. It settled into muck on the bottom. I lifted it up by the rod only. No touching reel handle. Swished the reel back & forth slowly to gently carrry away any muck. Removed the reel & put it into a PREHEATED to 180 F oven. 1/2 hour later. I loosen 1 side plate. tilt reel & turn handle. No water. Loosen other side plate. Tilt reel. No water. Re heat reel again for 1/2 hour. squirt a lot of Penn Reel Oil into reel case. tighten both side plates & turn handle for 1 minute, while putting reel in different positions. loosen 1 side cover & let excess soil drain out. Tighten cover. It feels the same decades later. I did replace all the Mono line. Quote
garroyo130 Posted May 8, 2022 Posted May 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, cyclops2 said: I did replace all the Mono line. Whew I was worried for a second there ... Quote
Yuddzy Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 On 5/8/2022 at 4:15 PM, cyclops2 said: I am the luckiest reel guy in the universe. I have only OPENED up 1 reel in my fishing life. I dropped the rod and reel into the water. It settled into muck on the bottom. I lifted it up by the rod only. No touching reel handle. Swished the reel back & forth slowly to gently carrry away any muck. Removed the reel & put it into a PREHEATED to 180 F oven. 1/2 hour later. I loosen 1 side plate. tilt reel & turn handle. No water. Loosen other side plate. Tilt reel. No water. Re heat reel again for 1/2 hour. squirt a lot of Penn Reel Oil into reel case. tighten both side plates & turn handle for 1 minute, while putting reel in different positions. loosen 1 side cover & let excess soil drain out. Tighten cover. It feels the same decades later. I did replace all the Mono line. So you oil flushed an entire reel? Quote
cyclops2 Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 Yes The only possible problem was water inside. So I did only what was needed. That was the only time I have ever done any P M on anything................ If you get anything built correctly ? You do not need P M. PM done by a untrained person becomes a endless expense. Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted May 10, 2022 Super User Posted May 10, 2022 8 hours ago, Yuddzy said: So you oil flushed an entire reel? No, baked it, hope he buttered the cookie sheet first though. #zombierecipe... On 5/8/2022 at 5:35 PM, cyclops2 said: The Mono came off the reel in shaped coils. Like macaroni, or fusilli? Quote
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