Red Eye Shad Silent Stalker: is it actually silent?

[Ads7633]

So I've been wanting to try out the silent version of the Red Eye Shad. However, I have heard mixed reviews about some baits not actually being silent. Do any of you have experience with this? Do i need to go into Bass Pro to make sure I get one that is actually silent? Or is a slight rattling normal with these? 

[ww2farmer]

No bait is truly "silent" you have hooks and split rings that rattle around and make a little noise.

I have tried the "silent" Red Eye Shad's.................mehhh....even in our clear water, I caught more and bigger on the rattling versions. I tend to use lipless baits early and late in the year when the fish are still "sluggish" and  the strike zone is smaller. They don't really seem to want to move far from there hiding spots to "track" a bait by feel or sight like a silent squarebill or a swim jig, but they can here/feel that rattling lipless bait from a long ways away, and the closer it get's to them the more triggering effect it has.............especially if where they are laying low is in a little patch of grass. They might never see it coming, but all of a sudden this rattly noise making thing is in their face, and they bite it. I have hauled water combing a flat apart in sub 50 degree water with a squarebill or swim jig, only to turn right around 15mins later and put 20lbs in the boat on a lipless in the same area. It just works, and I am not arguing with it.

[Cgolf]

I have some and at least shaking them in hand they are silent. Of course there will be some hook noise, but you can never get away from that. The only issue I ever had with the red eye shads was the opposite when they first came out that the rattles were stuck on some, but will give them credit, they took care of the issue for me. 

[corn-on-the-rob]

I would take the company's word on it, they are probably pretty silent.

Chances are that these "mixed" reviews are people shaking the bait with out holding the hooks and split rings tight and that's what they hear. There is no rattle in the chamber.

I think the silent version can definitely excel in:

1. Clear Water

and/or

2. Pressured Water

and/or

3. Alternating between rattle and no rattle can produce more fish from the same area than just one option alone

Don't worry about buying in person, order away!

 

[ww2farmer]

2 minutes ago, cgolf said:

I have some and at least shaking them in hand they are silent. Of course there will be some hook noise, but you can never get away from that. The only issue I ever had with the red eye shads was the opposite when they first came out that the rattles were stuck on some, but will give them credit, they took care of the issue for me. 

I had that problem with a couple too, SK was more than generous in replacing them. For every defective bait I sent back, they would send me 2 in return, plus other free stuff like hats, etc............I had a few translucent ones that had "sticky rattles" and I could see what the problem was..................where they glued the bait halves together, a couple rattles were stuck in excess glue that seeped out of the seam. A quick and hearty "smack" on the water freed them up and all was well again. Now, if I get one that "sounds" off..................which I rarely do, a quick slap on the water cures it 100% of the time, and I don't bother sending them back, because they catch fish just fine after that.

[Ads7633]

Some of the people who spoke of the bait not being silent seemed to think the weights in the bait were loose and thus causing the rattling. 

[Bluebasser86]

I have a few of the silent RES and none of the weights move. The hooks are still going to make some noise, but that's it. 

[Ads7633]

Just now, Bluebasser86 said:

I have a few of the silent RES and none of the weights move. The hooks are still going to make some noise, but that's it. 

That's reassuring. Thanks! 

[Scarborough817]

i don't see a reason for a silent lipless crank you want it to have the rattle and vibration in the water to attract fish unless the water is gin clear in which case i think you're better to fish a swimjig or a swimbait

[Bluebasser86]

1 minute ago, Scarborough817 said:

i don't see a reason for a silent lipless crank you want it to have the rattle and vibration in the water to attract fish unless the water is gin clear in which case i think you're better to fish a swimjig or a swimbait

Same reason you want a silent squarebill sometimes, pressured fish or fish in neutral feeding moods that don't want the loud rattles, just the vibration of the bait itself. It's a profile that is hard to replicate with a swimjig or swimbait also if fish are really keyed in on smaller shad. 

I've had the best success with it in clearer water, especially when the fish are pressured and holding in submerged grass.

[Scarborough817]

1 minute ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Same reason you want a silent squarebill sometimes, pressured fish or fish in neutral feeding moods that don't want the loud rattles, just the vibration of the bait itself. It's a profile that is hard to replicate with a swimjig or swimbait also if fish are really keyed in on smaller shad. 

I've had the best success with it in clearer water, especially when the fish are pressured and holding in submerged grass.

ok thanks for the info that's why i love this site you guys always provide good insight

[A-Jay]

Different strokes for different folks ~

I throw a lipless baits quite a bit.  Do OK shallow & deeper.  I fish very clear waters much of the time.

For me fish eat the Silent RES 2 to 1 over the rattler - but I do fish it more ~ Success breeds confidence.

The "#1" producing RES I own - is a "silent" version but the weight inside is a little loose - so it makes a very faint click, click, click on the retrieve.

It gets crushed ~ I got it when the silent jobs first came out.  First day out 1/2 the finish was gone and I went right back to the tackle shop on the way home to hopefully get a few more of these "clickers" ~ no joy - haven't found another one. 

 Though a little tattered, this one is still introducing itself to both green & brown bass every chance it gets.  And I certainly appreciate it.

 If I hang it up, this is one I'd probably have to go swimming for.

A-Jay

[senile1]

1 hour ago, A-Jay said:

Different strokes for different folks ~

I throw a lipless baits quite a bit.  Do OK shallow & deeper.  I fish very clear waters much of the time.

For me fish eat the Silent RES 2 to 1 over the rattler - but I do fish it more ~ Success breeds confidence.

The "#1" producing RES I own - is a "silent" version but the weight inside is a little loose - so it makes a very faint click, click, click on the retrieve.

It gets crushed ~ I got it when the silent jobs first came out.  First day out 1/2 the finish was gone and I went right back to the tackle shop on the way home to hopefully get a few more of these "clickers" ~ no joy - haven't found another one. 

 Though a little tattered, this one is still introducing itself to both green & brown bass every chance it gets.  And I certainly appreciate it.

 If I hang it up, this is one I'd probably have to go swimming for.

A-Jay

You have to love that customized color.  Let's call it B&B . . . . beaten and bruised.

[Ads7633]

3 hours ago, A-Jay said:

Different strokes for different folks ~

I throw a lipless baits quite a bit.  Do OK shallow & deeper.  I fish very clear waters much of the time.

For me fish eat the Silent RES 2 to 1 over the rattler - but I do fish it more ~ Success breeds confidence.

The "#1" producing RES I own - is a "silent" version but the weight inside is a little loose - so it makes a very faint click, click, click on the retrieve.

It gets crushed ~ I got it when the silent jobs first came out.  First day out 1/2 the finish was gone and I went right back to the tackle shop on the way home to hopefully get a few more of these "clickers" ~ no joy - haven't found another one. 

 Though a little tattered, this one is still introducing itself to both green & brown bass every chance it gets.  And I certainly appreciate it.

 If I hang it up, this is one I'd probably have to go swimming for.

A-Jay

So you like the ones that make a mild noise, as opposed to complete silent or the normal loud rattling. Interesting.

[A-Jay]

34 minutes ago, Ads7633 said:

So you like the ones that make a mild noise, as opposed to complete silent or the normal loud rattling. Interesting.

No doubt ~  And to pile on a little - 6th Sense Baits besides making a silent lipless bait that's pretty killer, they also make a version that has something called FRS - Faint Rattle System.  Only fished it the last part of this past season but it was getting the kind of results that make it easy to keep throwing.  It's a little larger profile at 5/8 oz.  It's a very nice slot bait between the standard 1/2 & 3/4 oz offerings - Last fall when the mid to shallower weeds were dying off and the yellow perch started to get more or less exposed, the Gold Reactor color was making happen - fished it low & slow.

A-Jay

[Ads7633]

22 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

No doubt ~  And to pile on a little - 6th Sense Baits besides making a silent lipless bait that's pretty killer, they also make a version that has something called FRS - Faint Rattle System.  Only fished it the last part of this past season but it was getting the kind of results that make it easy to keep throwing.  It's a little larger profile at 5/8 oz.  It's a very nice slot bait between the standard 1/2 & 3/4 oz offerings - Last fall when the mid to shallower weeds were dying off and the yellow perch started to get more or less exposed, the Gold Reactor color was making happen - fished it low & slow.

A-Jay

Well I will have to give both of those a try when the bass won't hit the loud rattlers. I appreciate the input!

[nhpleasantlakebass]

 

22 hours ago, A-Jay said:

Different strokes for different folks ~

I throw a lipless baits quite a bit.  Do OK shallow & deeper.  I fish very clear waters much of the time.

For me fish eat the Silent RES 2 to 1 over the rattler - but I do fish it more ~ Success breeds confidence.

The "#1" producing RES I own - is a "silent" version but the weight inside is a little loose - so it makes a very faint click, click, click on the retrieve.

It gets crushed ~ I got it when the silent jobs first came out.  First day out 1/2 the finish was gone and I went right back to the tackle shop on the way home to hopefully get a few more of these "clickers" ~ no joy - haven't found another one. 

 Though a little tattered, this one is still introducing itself to both green & brown bass every chance it gets.  And I certainly appreciate it.

 If I hang it up, this is one I'd probably have to go swimming for.

A-Jay

I think this is the very reason that strike king introduced  the new red eye shad tungsten two tap. too be the perfect bait  in the middle of the two? I think strike king knocked it out of the park with this idea... hopefully it produces.

[Bluebasser86]

18 minutes ago, nhpleasantlakebass said:

 

I think this is the very reason that strike king introduced  the new red eye shad tungsten two tap. too be the perfect bait  in the middle of the two? I think strike king knocked it out of the park with this idea... hopefully it produces.

It does

[A-Jay]

38 minutes ago, Bluebasser86 said:

It does

Sweet ~

You know it's a good one when even the Eyes are all scratched up . . .

btw love the red hook look ~ and so do the hot lake bass evidently

A-Jay