ScorpiFish Posted February 20, 2016 Posted February 20, 2016 Is 3.9oz heavy for a quality 7ft MFA spinning rod? Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 No, but It depends on how the weight was achieved as well. 1 Quote
mrpao Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said: No, but It depends on how the weight was achieved as well. Could you explain . . Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted February 21, 2016 Super User Posted February 21, 2016 My St Croix Legend Elite 7'6" M/F is 3.9oz Quote
WI_Angler1989 Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 28 minutes ago, QUAKEnSHAKE said: My St Croix Legend Elite 7'6" M/F is 3.9oz Oooooo....a new 2016 one? Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 1 hour ago, mrpao said: Could you explain . . My point was just that light weight alone is not a sole indicator of build quality. Chances are any sub 4oz 7' Rod has decent components though. A Rod with an extra guide or two might perform better even with the extra grams of weight. The opposite is true as well. There are various grip designs and materials that affect total weight. Getting the feel and durability you want may come at the cost of a little extra weight. It is possible to get the best of all and still be under 4oz just look at the whole package as well as weight or any one aspect for that matter. Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted February 21, 2016 Super User Posted February 21, 2016 52 minutes ago, WI_Angler1989 said: Oooooo....a new 2016 one? no a few years old now. Quote
WI_Angler1989 Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Just now, QUAKEnSHAKE said: no a few years old now. An old Elite blows most rods out of the water anyway haha. 1 Quote
Super User Raul Posted February 21, 2016 Super User Posted February 21, 2016 What does weight gotta do with quality ? Quote
Super User Further North Posted February 21, 2016 Super User Posted February 21, 2016 Lighter rods tend to be higher quality. It's not an absolute, and like anything else, you need to do your due diligence regarding individual maker quality. ...but within any high quality maker's line of rods, lighter should indicate higher quality. Quote
Super User Raul Posted February 21, 2016 Super User Posted February 21, 2016 5 hours ago, Further North said: Lighter rods tend to be higher quality. It's not an absolute, and like anything else, you need to do your due diligence regarding individual maker quality. ...but within any high quality maker's line of rods, lighter should indicate higher quality. Nope, it doesn´t work that way. Lighter rods tend to have lighter materials but those lighter materials do not equal better quality. Quote
Super User Further North Posted February 22, 2016 Super User Posted February 22, 2016 18 hours ago, Raul said: Nope, it doesn´t work that way. Lighter rods tend to have lighter materials but those lighter materials do not equal better quality. That's why I put "tend" and "should" in italics. If you look at a single maker's rods,the lighter ones tend to show up nearer the top end, and be more expensive, and be of higher quality. Move to another manufacturer, and you start from scratch...don't compare weights across makers. ...also: swing weight will be different from actual weight. Much harder to measure, but probably more important. Quote
Super User Raul Posted February 22, 2016 Super User Posted February 22, 2016 I will say it again: weight has absolutely nothing to do with quality. Quote
Super User Further North Posted February 22, 2016 Super User Posted February 22, 2016 Wasn't saying it did. I said lighter rods tend to be higher quality within a given maker's range. Lighter materials cost more, and tend to be used in a maker's higher end rods...since higher end rod buyers tend to expect higher quality, the rods tend to be built with greater attention to detail, fit and finish etc. Are there exceptions? Sure. But in the big picture, it's a solid bet. It's a tendency not a rock solid fact. If you've got more detail to explain, please help me understand what you're getting at. 2 Quote
shaggydog Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Yeah lightweight rods have less material so they are crap and made like junk Quote
Super User Raul Posted February 23, 2016 Super User Posted February 23, 2016 9 hours ago, Further North said: Wasn't saying it did. I said lighter rods tend to be higher quality within a given maker's range. Lighter materials cost more, and tend to be used in a maker's higher end rods...since higher end rod buyers tend to expect higher quality, the rods tend to be built with greater attention to detail, fit and finish etc. Are there exceptions? Sure. But in the big picture, it's a solid bet. It's a tendency not a rock solid fact. If you've got more detail to explain, please help me understand what you're getting at. Still don't get it ? Rod weight has nothing to do with the quality of the components. Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted February 23, 2016 Super User Posted February 23, 2016 You know how they say with lures, size, profile, action then color? With rods, action, balance, length, and then weight. A heavier rod with a better balance will feel lighter and fish better. And its true that weight is no indicator of quality from a technical point of view, but it does end up being that way with most rod lines because of how they are marketed. Lighter is better for rods, so now they are silly light (with the corresponding warranty claims) and faster is better for reels, so now your 7.0 reel is too slow... Quote
Super User Further North Posted February 23, 2016 Super User Posted February 23, 2016 12 hours ago, Raul said: Still don't get it ? Rod weight has nothing to do with the quality of the components. Saying the same thing over and over does nothing to further anyone's understanding...maybe it makes you feel better? ...and you are wrong within the context of what I wrote...This says it perfectly: 5 hours ago, reason said: You know how they say with lures, size, profile, action then color? With rods, action, balance, length, and then weight. A heavier rod with a better balance will feel lighter and fish better. And its true that weight is no indicator of quality from a technical point of view, but it does end up being that way with most rod lines because of how they are marketed. Lighter is better for rods, so now they are silly light (with the corresponding warranty claims) and faster is better for reels, so now your 7.0 reel is too slow... Quote
bigfruits Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 17 hours ago, shaggydog said: Yeah lightweight rods have less material so they are crap and made like junk still trying to justify that ugly stick purchase? Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted February 23, 2016 Super User Posted February 23, 2016 Yea, my 3.2 oz. Croix SCV and 2.9 oz NFC IM are both serious pieces of s#!t. Quote
Rick Howard Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, S Hovanec said: Yea, my 3.2 oz. Croix SCV and 2.9 oz NFC IM are both serious pieces of s#!t. I will give them a good home. I will PM you my address. 2 Quote
shaggydog Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Rick Howard said: I will give them a good home. I will PM you my address. Why would you even want them? If they are that light they must be crap. 1 Quote
Rick Howard Posted February 25, 2016 Posted February 25, 2016 On February 23, 2016 at 6:25 PM, shaggydog said: Why would you even want them? If they are that light they must be crap. Free is my price range. And I don't subscribe to any theories over what makes a good Rod or bad one. If I like it than its a good Rod. Quote
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