Instant Anti Reverse Not Working

[VABasser]

 Hey guys, I need some help for those of you who understand reel mechanics. I just broke down an old bass pro shops extreme baitcaster today, cleaned it, and put it back together.   Everything seemed smooth until I was playing around with the handle and realized that the anti-reverse sometimes isn't working. It'll backpedal for a bit and eventually catch, and stop like it should. Can anybody help me troubleshoot this? I've never had this problem after cleaning a reel

[Molay1292]

Many times this problem is the result of using too much oil or grease on the AR bearing.  Try re-cleaning the bearing and inner tube and see if that resolves the issue.

[VABasser]

Roger that, will try it.  The guy who taught me told me only to put grease in the anti-reverse bearing. Is that what everyone does/is that correct? I've always done it that way

[Molay1292]

If I used grease it would only be enough to put a very thin fingerprint film.  I prefer using a heavier oil, 3-4 drops using a  Q-tip to to spread the oil onto the rollers.  Many greases are just to thick to allow the ARB to work properly.

[a1712]

A light oil, sparingly. NO GREASE!!! Unless you enjoy bloody knuckles. Brian.

[shackman]

Run it dry..no oil or grease on roller bearings. That's why it's slipping. 

[MickD]

I agree with others that grease is likely the problem.  The reason is that in order for the clutch to work  the rollers in the clutch-bearing have to move slightly to lock, and the grease is probably preventing that.  Please report back re your success after cleaning the grease out.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

The grease is without a doubt clogging the rollers. Flush the clutch again. A thin film of oil will prevent corrosion and aid smoothness. 

[VABasser]

Problem solved, thanks guys! You learn something new every day

[VABasser]

I've got another question.  Looking more closely at a "Lubrication Guide" that came with the BPS reel, it says to lightly grease the ends of the spool shaft.  I watched an official Shimano maintenance video and they emphasized you want nothing on your spool shaft.  So which is it?

[rippin-lips]

Grease only goes on gears and some use it on sliding parts. I use a heavy oil on sliding parts. 1 drop of light oil on a q-tip will be enough to do your reverse bearing and the spool shaft tips. 

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

A light swab on the tension spacers is fine. Keep grease away from the spool for optimum performance. 

[Fisher-O-men]

I've got the same problem but only on a spinner.  Can't seem to get to the bearing.  It is an old Shimano Symetre with rear drag. 

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

22 minutes ago, Fisher-O-men said:

I've got the same problem but only on a spinner.  Can't seem to get to the bearing.  It is an old Shimano Symetre with rear drag. 

The Shimano uses a whole custom AR assembly. Whatever you do don't open that up. Sounds like the reel could use a whole cleaning. Send it in if you'd like. 

[ww2farmer]

I had a cheap Abu Black Maxx2 reel that was giving me some anti-reverse issues this past fall. On the advise of a member here, I tore it down, cleaned and LIGHTLY oiled the AR roller bearing, and it's as good as new now.

[Orson]

On 2/20/2016 at 12:40 PM, VABasser said:

Problem solved, thanks guys! You learn something new every day

hi VABasser, I got the same issue with the anti reverse bearing. It will slip backward a little bit.

 

Could you help tell me how you fix it? I try to disassemble the AR bearing from my baitcasting reel, but it is so tight.

 

Thanks in advance.

[OnthePotomac]

When I clean my reels each winter I simply put a touch of reel oil on a real hard QTip (do not use the big fluffy QTips) and run it around the roller bearings a few times.  Good to go.  Listen to DVT guys on clean spool shafts, oil or grease on spool shafts will only slow things down.  I even polish my spool shafts and their ends with a dremel.

[Orson]

22 hours ago, OnthePotomac said:

When I clean my reels each winter I simply put a touch of reel oil on a real hard QTip (do not use the big fluffy QTips) and run it around the roller bearings a few times.  Good to go.  Listen to DVT guys on clean spool shafts, oil or grease on spool shafts will only slow things down.  I even polish my spool shafts and their ends with a dremel.

Thanks for your advice.

 

my reel is shimano core 100mg, now the AR bearing will slip back a little bit, it is very annoying *_*

[OnthePotomac]

I don't have to clean anything out of my AR bearings, but if I did I would use CRC Electronic cleaner in the spray can.  It dissolves oil, or grease really fast,  dry fast, leaves no residue and is not corrosive and won't blow you up.  I use it clean my regular bearings.  Great to have on the boat also.

Wally world sells it in the automotive section.

[Orson]

thanks @OnthePotomac, I will try to clean the AR bearing thoroughly, too much oil and grease in it.

 

Have a good weekend and happy fishing

[Tony R. W.]

Not sure if this is off topic.

Ok, I am new to the baitcaster and just purchased two fishing rods with baitcasters. Got home with and start checking them out. The wife's is ok, but when I was checking mine, the spool still spins freely after turning the crank.

Is it broken or is there something that needs to be adjusted?

 

[J Francho]

51 minutes ago, Tony R. W. said:

Is it broken or is there something that needs to be adjusted?

Tighten the drag star?

[Deleted account]

On 2/19/2016 at 11:37 PM, VABasser said:

Roger that, will try it.  The guy who taught me told me only to put grease in the anti-reverse bearing. Is that what everyone does/is that correct? I've always done it that way

Nope. clean out the ARB of the grease, and put the least amount of light oil you can on it, then try to wipe it all off, then it's properly lubed.

[fishwizzard]

On 2/20/2016 at 1:37 PM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

A light swab on the tension spacers is fine. Keep grease away from the spool for optimum performance. 

I once, seeing what I though was a lube-port on my first baitcastet, filled it up with grease as I was going to use it in brackish water the following day.  

 

It worked about as well as you would expect.