MFBAB Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 I know this has been discussed in the past on the Bank Walker Thread, but that was really just trying to consolidate everything into one thread, which is really a pretty disorganized way to do it-you'd never be able to find specific topics withing 1 mega-thread. Do a search for "Pond" or "Bank" fishing and hundreds of threads will come up, there always seem to be several pond threads going at any given time. I think it would be great if a new forum were started and these threads could be consolidated there. It would be so convenient to have everything in one place, and it truly is one of the most active topics on the boards, and bank/pond fishing is a distinctive topic from "General Bass Fishing", or "Fishing Tackle", at least IMO. Anyone else? I'm setting up a poll for this too, so please cast a vote!!
Fishin Ethan Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 this would be great! Hopefully we can get a pond/bank form Admins please create this forum
Super User flyfisher Posted February 15, 2016 Super User Posted February 15, 2016 This is brought up all the time and is always shot down. Fishing in a pond really is no different than a larger lake, just on a smaller scale. Bank fishing has other challenges as well but again, the techniques are the same, just where you are fishing from is different. I made the switch from bank/wade fishing to kayak fishing and i isn't all of the sudden have some new techniques i couldn't do before, just some were more effective being off the bank.
MFBAB Posted February 15, 2016 Author Posted February 15, 2016 5 minutes ago, flyfisher said: This is brought up all the time and is always shot down. Fishing in a pond really is no different than a larger lake, just on a smaller scale. Bank fishing has other challenges as well but again, the techniques are the same, just where you are fishing from is different. I made the switch from bank/wade fishing to kayak fishing and i isn't all of the sudden have some new techniques i couldn't do before, just some were more effective being off the bank. I respect your opinion, but IMO pond fishing is talking about generally small bodies of water, often boats aren't even allowed on them. Clearly hundreds of other people are making this distinction as well, due to the huge number of Pond specific threads on the forums. I'm just not seeing a down side to adding a forum for these topics, I honestly believe it would be a huge help to a lot of our users. And the fact that it is brought up all the time, I mean, a lot of people want this. We literally have "custom rod building forum", "fishing resume forum", and "bass club forums" here. By your logic, the rod building one should be in tackle making, the resume one should probably not even exist, and the club one should be general bass fishing because it's all just bass fishing when we get down to it, right? 2
Super User flyfisher Posted February 15, 2016 Super User Posted February 15, 2016 i get that people ask for a and specific advice but how much of that advice is different than on a large body of water, it really isn't......that is my point. 2
Super User A-Jay Posted February 15, 2016 Super User Posted February 15, 2016 Nope. Just start your own "MFBAB's Pond/Bank fishing" thread . . . Catt started a "So Yall Want To Learn Toledo Bend?" on August 8th 2008 ! Over the past 7 years plus it has generated 202 pages of useful responses and counting . . . . . . A-Jay 7
hawgenvy Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 I think bank fishing guys would like having their own forum, and there are probably enough bank-specific topics to keep it relevant and beneficial. Fishing from shore and finding and navigating those shores has it's unique challenges and opportunities. Agree there would be a lot of overlap. But personally, I'd like to see it. 4
Super User Deleted account Posted February 15, 2016 Super User Posted February 15, 2016 A resounding no. Other than getting thorns in your ass there is nothing different from fishing from a boat or fishing from shore. There is already too much arbitrary compartamentation in LMB fishing. I'm surprised fishing from shore isn't a "technique" yet. 1
Hog Basser Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 How about a pond and small private lake management forum? There's a great resource page with tons of articles here on Bass Resource about pond management, but there's nowhere to discuss it. I have just gotten into pond management and that's how I found this forum (through the articles here: http://www.bassresource.com/lake-management/) I could see this overlapping with fishing the ponds and small private waters to have enough content for a new forum. I for one would like to have a forum page dedicated to pond management discussion and would be happy to have the discussion of fishing these ponds included in it. Just my 2 cents. 3
68camaro Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 I think pond/bank fishing has enough nuances and differences to warrant its own forum. Even though I am looking for canoe I also will still be doing a lot of opportunistic bank fishing as I carry a couples poles/tackle in Jeep. 1
MFBAB Posted February 15, 2016 Author Posted February 15, 2016 4 hours ago, A-Jay said: Nope. Just start your own "MFBAB's Pond/Bank fishing" thread . . . Catt started a "So Yall Want To Learn Toledo Bend?" on August 8th 2008 ! Over the past 7 years plus it has generated 202 pages of useful responses and counting . . . . . . A-Jay That's what the thread I linked in the first post is, and it's a completely inefficient way of doing this anyway.....and it's not the same deal as catt's thread. His thread is in a regional fishing forum, where it belongs. You can't have a forum for each specific lake, Pickwick, Guntersville, Falcon, etc...If people want to talk about those lakes, then start a thread in the appropriate region and go nuts. Bank/Pond Vs. General Bass fishing in a boat on reservoirs is a totally different comparison. On the bank: - Totally different angles (ever try to fish an outside grass edge from the bank?) - Limited to fewer presentation options (1-2 rods, a small box of lures) - Limited to a much smaller and more specific area (1 pond, not a whole lake) - Far less options in terms of moving or finding different patterns, you have got to hunker down and fish what's in front of you. You don't get to just move on to another pattern as the day goes on. - Always fishing Uphill, no way to move off the bank and try various casting angles. You can use some of the same baits, but not in all of the same ways. - Obviously, a lot of baits w trebles or snaggy baits are off the table because you will lose them Comparing bank fishing to boat fishing is like comparing walking to driving, IMO. I know this isn't going to happen, I'm just making the point clear that there's not a good reason why 8
bigbassin' Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 I probably make 3 trips on the bank for every 1 I take in a boat, however I feel like this isn't really needed. In my experience the only real differences are that it's harder to free a snagged lure from the bank, deep diving cranks are more or less useless from the bank, and you can't cover as much water on foot. Other than that I fell like the same techniques work and seasonal patterns are the same, just small bodies of water transition faster.
Super User A-Jay Posted February 15, 2016 Super User Posted February 15, 2016 10 minutes ago, MFBAB said: I know this isn't going to happen, I'm just making the point clear that there's not a good reason why I'll agree that you're making it a point ~ A-Jay 2
nascar2428 Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 8 minutes ago, MFBAB said: Comparing bank fishing to boat fishing is like comparing walking to driving, IMO. Most of the guys on here won't admit that. Out of eighty four instructional videos on this website, two are vaguely about bank fishing. Trust me there's a lot more two it than that. Perhaps a thread of some bank fishing tips and tricks might be appropriate. 1
MFBAB Posted February 16, 2016 Author Posted February 16, 2016 I just did a search for the word "pond" within thread titles. 197 results going back 2 years (1 topic per 3.5 days), and that's just the word "pond", not bank or anything else. And only in the title. I would expect that the activity would be much greater if there were a dedicated forum for this, and also, from an organizational standpoint, it would be so much easier to keep up with the threads if they were under one roof. 1
primetime Posted February 16, 2016 Posted February 16, 2016 I agree with the post above....I think pond management is an important topic that I would love to learn more about and I am always searching out information since I have 5 ponds in the development where I live, and I have tried making 2 of them into really good spots with less bass but much larger fish, and then I put the slots in the other pond, along with stunted bluegills or any random fish I catch that do not belong. I notice the young Kids love fishing the 2 ponds that are void of structure, super clear, and are loaded with Bass in the 10-13" range since I remove most of the bass from 2 of the ponds with the goal of growing a few trophies... One cool thing to note...Here in Florida and I would imagine in most states, If you want to fish a pond that may be on Private property or on the side of the road etc...You can often call FWC or the DEC and we have a program called "Adopt a Pond" which basically allows you to fix a pond by adding structure, cleaning it, taking samples for Ph and Oxygen, and they work with you on how to fix the pond based on goals...Most developments have a retention pond or stormwater pond and they usually are one small part of a much larger watershed which leads to a large lake. Having permission to fish the "Watershed gives you the ability to fish and fix the ponds connected without tresspassing." Most owners who question you end up happy when you explain to them you are a "Volunteer" trying to keep the pond or ponds better for fishing. Managing small ponds is very difficult and it is amazing how fast fish will grow if you pay attention to the size of the bluegills and the bass, the shiners and other forage should take care of themselves if the 2 fish mentioned are in ratio....If you have a pond that is full of stunted bass and huge bluegills, then turn it into a trophy panfish pond, and then raise shiners in that pond as well, but it is so important to remove fish from good ponds, if you have a pond full of 4-5lb bass, that is great, but I promise in a few years you will have a few really big fish and lots of skinny bass unless you start a slot etc.. So growing trophy bass and pond management, ratios and what fish to add and how is a thread I would love to have since I know I am not the only one who tries to manage a pond to grow a giant... 2
Super User roadwarrior Posted February 16, 2016 Super User Posted February 16, 2016 53 minutes ago, MFBAB said: I know this isn't going to happen, I'm just making the point clear that there's not a good reason why Hmm...It might.
MFBAB Posted February 16, 2016 Author Posted February 16, 2016 I'm surprised you're against this RW? BTW, have you checked the forecast later this week? Let's go fishing!
Super User Cgolf Posted February 16, 2016 Super User Posted February 16, 2016 I definitely think there should be a bank pond forum. I fish a lot of small rivers and creeks. There is definately a difference there than fishing a lake. Reeding the water, proper bait placement, fish location in current, etc. actually a River forum would be awesome, it would probably be pretty heavy on bank fisherman participation. 3
MFBAB Posted February 16, 2016 Author Posted February 16, 2016 I think these could easily be consolidated, "creeks and small waters forum" or something like that. I'm surprised at how divided people are on this. I honestly see it as a slam dunk. 1
Catch 22 Posted February 16, 2016 Posted February 16, 2016 I fish lots of ponds primarily in the winter months that are 50 to 100 acres, all public. I have several tidal rivers to chose from ,but the productivity is just not there, or maybe I just can`t figure them out. A captive audience, so to speak. Sometimes its easy, sometimes not. The main thing is that it gets me through the winter. I would enjoy a ponds forum or at least a ponds only thread. C22
Bruce424 Posted February 16, 2016 Posted February 16, 2016 Someone who says fishing from the bank is no different than a boat never balanced themselves on a fallen tree trunk over water to make a cast. Or slid down a steep bank to get to a spot. Or had to deal with ticks, spiderwebs or angry geese!! Haha. 1
Super User A-Jay Posted February 16, 2016 Super User Posted February 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, Bruce424 said: Someone who says fishing from the bank is no different than a boat never balanced themselves on a fallen tree trunk over water to make a cast. Or slid down a steep bank to get to a spot. Or had to deal with ticks, spiderwebs or angry geese!! Haha. I have ~ and all At Night. Well, except for that rabid geese thing - but skunks, bats & diabolical beaver - will get ones attention pretty good too. We could have a forum just on that . . . . A-Jay 5
MFBAB Posted February 16, 2016 Author Posted February 16, 2016 There's a Beaver in one of the ponds I night fish occasionally. That guy has made me jump a few times, slapping that tail about 10 feet away from you on a dark moonless night, eek 1
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted February 16, 2016 Super User Posted February 16, 2016 I dont ever really view individual forums just have set up to view posts since last visit, all the forums are jumbled together. The thing is those that dont want one wouldnt have to go to it if they didnt want to, if they view forums separately. But I have a feeling if there was one the ones that voted NO would be in there rambling their 2cents. 1
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