Lews drag slipping big time

[68camaro]

I have a new Lew’s Team Lews Lite Speed Spool TLL1SH Baitcaster 7.5:1 spooled with Bushido 50lb braid.

The drag is not holding at all. With drag tightened down all the way you can easily pull off line by hand, their is little to no resistance. The reel is new and never taken apart.

any ideas? Could braid be slipping on spool?

[jonnyblazex]

  Did you put mono backing on spool then connect the braid to that before reeling it on?

 

[eyedabassman]

4 minutes ago, jonnyblazex said:

  Did you put mono backing on spool then connect the braid to that before reeling it on?

 

As Jonny had said if no backing on the braid and the braid will slip from the spool. if you put a backing on then just take it back where you bought it from or call Lew's,they back there product up!

[68camaro]

7 minutes ago, jonnyblazex said:

  Did you put mono backing on spool then connect the braid to that before reeling it on?

 

No I did not.  Could that be it and if so how much mono should I try and best mono to braid knot?

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Braid slipping. 100%

[jonnyblazex]

  Basically the cheapest mono you can find, I use eagle claw, I have a spool of it that's 1000 yards, I think I paid $4 for it, but workd perfect for backing.  I use 8lb test, and basically just enough to cover the spool, maybe go a layer over that, probly less than 50 feet worth of line.  Tie the braid to that with a uni to uni knot (what I use anyway) and your good to go.  Hopefully you can save all that line you put on there, possibly reel it off with another baitcaster, then reel it back on?

[eyedabassman]

7 minutes ago, 68camaro said:

No I did not.  Could that be it and if so how much mono should I try and best mono to braid knot?

That is your problem then. Best knot to tie the two lines is a uni-knot .put enough mono on the spool so you don't come up short with the braid. It all depends what size braid you have on. And try to come close to the mono lb. test and the braid lb. test when tying the two lines together it does not have to be exact but close.

[68camaro]

Great, thanks guys.

[Evan K]

24 minutes ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Braid slipping. 100%

Not saying you're not right, but a whole spool of braid will slip? I don't think I've ever experienced that.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Absolutely. Very common problem to trouble shoot. 

[hawgenvy]

I've seen it. If the rim of the spool is not moving when you pull line off, the line is slipping on the spool. Doesn't anyone thread the beginning end of the braid through those little holes in the spool before tying it on the spool?

[eyedabassman]

2 hours ago, hawgenvy said:

I've seen it. If the rim of the spool is not moving when you pull line off, the line is slipping on the spool. Doesn't anyone thread the beginning end of the braid through those little holes in the spool before tying it on the spool?

Not all baitcast reels have holes in the spool! And if you spool the whole reel with braid then your wasting alot of braid that you will never get down to. More bang for your buck!

[corn-on-the-rob]

1 hour ago, eyedabassman said:

And if you spool the whole reel with braid then your wasting alot of braid that you will never get down to. More bang for your buck!

This is where I always disagree with people. I will spool the whole wheel with braid, either through the holes on the spool or a little electrical tape backing. THEN when I use enough of the braid, I can then add mono backing behind it and get a double the life simply by putting on that extra 25-50 yards of braid at the very start.

[Molay1292]

Can you make a diagram, I am confused by your post.

[Evan K]

11 hours ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Absolutely. Very common problem to trouble shoot. 

Wow. Learn something new everyday.

[Jaderose]

7 hours ago, corn-on-the-rob said:

This is where I always disagree with people. I will spool the whole wheel with braid, either through the holes on the spool or a little electrical tape backing. THEN when I use enough of the braid, I can then add mono backing behind it and get a double the life simply by putting on that extra 25-50 yards of braid at the very start.

?????

[boostr]

I use 15# Big Game Mono for backing, I'll reel it on halfway,  then 50# braid for the rest. This way I'll have enough braid for 2 reels. I've never gone down to the mono with this set up either. If I start fishing deeper I will just use less mono.

[corn-on-the-rob]

6 hours ago, Jaderose said:

?????

Okay, so I spool up a reel with lets just say 125 yards of braid with no backing. By then end of the season, through break offs and re-tying, I only have 75 yards left on the reel. For the next season, I pull that 75 yards off, put mono backing on it, put it back on, then I get another season out of it until there is not enough braid left from break offs and re-tying.

Whereas, If you put backing on initially, then only 75 yards of braid, once that braid gets too short, you have to re-spool, probably after one season. So in 2 seasons you use 150 yards, where I only used 125. Obviously, these numbers are just for the sake of the concept, but I believe it makes my point.

I know I personally use less braid in the long run by spooling with no backing, then using backing once it gets too short.

[eyedabassman]

5 hours ago, boostr said:

I use 15# Big Game Mono for backing, I'll reel it on halfway,  then 50# braid for the rest. This way I'll have enough braid for 2 reels. I've never gone down to the mono with this set up either. If I start fishing deeper I will just use less mono.

I agree! But i can see where Corn-on-the-rob is coming from!

[WRB]

First things first, check to see if the spooled braid is spinning on the spool.

Just because a reel is new doesn't mean it's not defective.

You don't need filler line.

If the spool is filled to the correct level, 1/16-1/8" below the spool rim, no reason to use filler line. You do need to take off the spooled line onto another reel or spool. If the line is tied onto the arbor shaft all you do is tape over the tied on line on the arbor using about 2" of electrical tape, then respool the braid back onto the reel spool. Make sure you use pressure the first few yards of line to hold the tape down tight, this prevents the line from spinning.

I like to run all line between a wet folded terry towel to moisten the line and keep even pressure on the line while spooling, prevents burning your fingers!

Braid is 1/2 the weight of mono line and filling your reel with braid saves weight, plus you can turn the line around next year and have fresh braid, the top spool braid doesn't affect the deeper braid like it does with mono filler line.

Tom

[Jaderose]

46 minutes ago, corn-on-the-rob said:

Okay, so I spool up a reel with lets just say 125 yards of braid with no backing. By then end of the season, through break offs and re-tying, I only have 75 yards left on the reel. For the next season, I pull that 75 yards off, put mono backing on it, put it back on, then I get another season out of it until there is not enough braid left from break offs and re-tying.

Whereas, If you put backing on initially, then only 75 yards of braid, once that braid gets too short, you have to re-spool, probably after one season. So in 2 seasons you use 150 yards, where I only used 125. Obviously, these numbers are just for the sake of the concept, but I believe it makes my point.

I know I personally use less braid in the long run by spooling with no backing, then using backing once it gets too short.

Not feeling it but that's ok!  If we were all the same it would be a boring ol' world.  If it works for you then it works.

[68camaro]

Well I think the mono backing worked. I used 10lb basic mono that had 30mm diameter vs. the 50lb, 33mm braid diameter. I used a uni-to uni knot which is very similar to a barrel knot I used to use in SAR rope work.

I tied end of braid to another reel on broken half rod and basically just reeled in onto new reel. Then added 75' of mono to Lews reel, tied to braid and reversed. Next time I'll use much more mono but this seems to work. 

Thanks all. 

 

[eyedabassman]

8 minutes ago, 68camaro said:

Well I think the mono backing worked. I used 10lb basic mono that had 30mm diameter vs. the 50lb, 33mm braid diameter. I used a uni-to uni knot which is very similar to a barrel knot I used to use in SAR rope work.

I tied end of braid to another reel on broken half rod and basically just reeled in onto new reel. Then added 75' of mono to Lews reel, tied to braid and reversed. Next time I'll use much more mono but this seems to work. 

Thanks all. 

 

Good job!