Sebile lipless

[bassguytom]

I received some of these as a gift over the holidays and have never used them they look kind of odd for a lipless crank. Does anyone have experience with these? Any info. Is appreciated. 

[smalljaw67]

There are different ones like the Action First series which I never used. The Flatt Shads though are a different story, those are killers and I never understood why they discontinued making them as a lot of anglers liked them. Natural Shiner, Natural Bluegill and Holo Greenie are my favorite patterns in those but if you have the action first ones like I said, I never used them.

[Paul Roberts]

Flatt Shads are discontinued? Ach! Another great bait gone.

[A-Jay]

1 hour ago, Paul Roberts said:

Flatt Shads are discontinued? Ach! Another great bait gone.

I've had these for several years & just recent figured out a productive presentation with them. 

Really paid off too.

A-Jay

[Paul Roberts]

They vibrate hard and sink relatively slowly and level. I've burned them and pump/rip-n-fall them to great effect.

[A-Jay]

5 minutes ago, Paul Roberts said:

They vibrate hard and sink relatively slowly and level. I've burned them and pump/fall them to great effect.

 I have the Flatt Shad 77 SU weighs 1/2 oz and has an almost neutral buoyancy.

It suspends about 2-3 feet under the surface. It really will not sink or dive much deeper than that.

Just hangs on the stop - Always thought it would be good for fishing Very Early Season Super Shallow Shoreline cover.

It Is.  

A-Jay

[Paul Roberts]

I wasn't aware of those! I could make use of that over shallow or weedy flats.

[primetime]

The Sebile Flatt Shad has been one of my favorite Lipless crankaits I have used especially in the 77 SU size as it suspends, swims nose down, and it can be altered by removing the split ring and tying a loop knot if you want it to slowly float, but the thin body, Owner Trebles, and glitter filled cavity give it the look as if it is wounded and has the "Scales falling off effect". Whenver I am flipping and pitching, or fishing an area with emergent grass, you can work this bait over almost anything and it will run true as the way it swims protects the trebles from weeds, and if you rip it or stop it, it stays perfectly still with a slight wobble..Most strikes I get come on the pause or when I just start it...

They also make a Flatt Shad Snagless, and one that is extra heavy for longer casts and makes it easier to get the bait down deep under the weeds where most lipless cranks get get through. It is also smaller and only has a double hook which you can throw in the middle of a hydrilla field and get it through like a texas rigged swimbait only much better hook up percentage at times...

I would say that if you are on a good trap bite, ripping it off grass etc, most guys will start out with a standard rattling bait like the Red Eye shad or XR50 Xcalibur rattle bait, and after the bite slows, they switch to a one knocker to get a few more strikes....The Flatt Shad is my go to lipless after the one knocker, or in areas where fish are spooked since they vibrate hard, but the rattling is very weak since it is mainly just hooks...Cordell and Bill Lewis also makes suspenders but the flatt shad 77 size is the perfect post spawn bluegill size...I love the chartruese silver, Baby Bass color, silver and gold...I also use the smaller sizes 54mm and 66mm I believe for pond fishing etc as they sink but just give off a different vibration than everything else.

The New Sebile lipless cranks action series have 2 types, I have used the ones that have the weight on the bottom of the nose externally and do the vertical walk like the Spro Aruku shad does, and it is a good bait as well...

Sorry for the ramble, but one of my favorite way to fish when i am not in the mood to pitch heavy soft baits into cover or fish endless mats and cover, is to use the Flatt Shad 77 SU as a pitching bait. I will pitch it into a pocket of weeds next to a branch and just let it sit for a good 10 seconds.Then just shake it and maybe let it dive a few inches and kill it...The strikes are viscious...This is one of the only lures I have used with other fisherman and they stop and ask me what I am using and ask to see one or borrow one...It is that good of a lure. I don't know why Pure Fishing discountinued all the Sebile Baits that Patrick Sebile really worked on to make them pefect and instead made the action series.....but you can find deals on the Sebile lures on Ebay still, and I would get a few Flatt Shad 77 SU the only suspending model they make before they vanish. You can find them for $10 on Ebay which is a good buy compared to other lures...

Video of the Snagless Flatt Shad/Suspending-the 2 best imo....It truly is more weedless than any other lure including the Norman Scorpion, only bait similar is the Creme mad dad minnow which is a soft body, but you can modify you favorite lure to become snagless like the Aruku Shad as it needs a heavy hunting nose down action.

 

[A-Jay]

Guess the cat's totally out of the bag now ~

A-Jay

[primetime]

7 hours ago, smalljaw67 said:

There are different ones like the Action First series which I never used. The Flatt Shads though are a different story, those are killers and I never understood why they discontinued making them as a lot of anglers liked them. Natural Shiner, Natural Bluegill and Holo Greenie are my favorite patterns in those but if you have the action first ones like I said, I never used them.

Once Pure Fishing Purchased Sebile, They stopped making all the higher priced lures and instead went with the action series which I don't think has worked out for them as I always see the lures on clearance racks...I don't think they did a good job marketing their lures to Bass fishing. They focused on Europe, Walleye, but also Saltwater as a main target. They also made a big push when they first came out and pushed the Magic swimmer which was overpriced imo and was ok but not worth the $18.99-$35 they were asking for them...The best lures never made it into stores or major retailers....The Sebile lures were kind of like River2sea in the sense that they made so many versions and variations and models so quickly that many were not all that great, but some were gems..The Splasher, WL Koolie Minnow, Ghost Walker, *** walking lures, and Flatt Shads were great as were the glide baits which most people never had a chance to see unless you fished in Europe. If you look on you tube under Sebile lure demo's you can see all the sebile baits being worked by Patrick Sebile and he explains how to fish them and the guy is borderling crazy/genius since they are usually close cousins....

I wish they would have pushed lures like the Splasher and stick shad (Just the Smaller sizes for price reasons-72mm and 100?) instead of the magic shad first....It just gets confusing as he had about 6 sizes of flatt shadds, sinking, heavy, snagless and it gets confusing.....But Pure fishing ate up another company that was producing unique lures.....

[A-Jay]

16 minutes ago, primetime said:

The Sebile Flatt Shad has been one of my favorite Lipless crankaits I have used especially in the 77 SU size as it suspends, swims nose down, and it can be altered by removing the split ring and tying a loop knot if you want it to slowly float, but the thin body, Owner Trebles, and glitter filled cavity give it the look as if it is wounded and has the "Scales falling off effect". Whenver I am flipping and pitching, or fishing an area with emergent grass, you can work this bait over almost anything and it will run true as the way it swims protects the trebles from weeds, and if you rip it or stop it, it stays perfectly still with a slight wobble..Most strikes I get come on the pause or when I just start it...

They also make a Flatt Shad Snagless, and one that is extra heavy for longer casts and makes it easier to get the bait down deep under the weeds where most lipless cranks get get through. It is also smaller and only has a double hook which you can throw in the middle of a hydrilla field and get it through like a texas rigged swimbait only much better hook up percentage at times...

I would say that if you are on a good trap bite, ripping it off grass etc, most guys will start out with a standard rattling bait like the Red Eye shad or XR50 Xcalibur rattle bait, and after the bite slows, they switch to a one knocker to get a few more strikes....The Flatt Shad is my go to lipless after the one knocker, or in areas where fish are spooked since they vibrate hard, but the rattling is very weak since it is mainly just hooks...Cordell and Bill Lewis also makes suspenders but the flatt shad 77 size is the perfect post spawn bluegill size...I love the chartruese silver, Baby Bass color, silver and gold...I also use the smaller sizes 54mm and 66mm I believe for pond fishing etc as they sink but just give off a different vibration than everything else.

The New Sebile lipless cranks action series have 2 types, I have used the ones that have the weight on the bottom of the nose externally and do the vertical walk like the Spro Aruku shad does, and it is a good bait as well...

Sorry for the ramble, but one of my favorite way to fish when i am not in the mood to pitch heavy soft baits into cover or fish endless mats and cover, is to use the Flatt Shad 77 SU as a pitching bait. I will pitch it into a pocket of weeds next to a branch and just let it sit for a good 10 seconds.Then just shake it and maybe let it dive a few inches and kill it...The strikes are viscious...This is one of the only lures I have used with other fisherman and they stop and ask me what I am using and ask to see one or borrow one...It is that good of a lure. I don't know why Pure Fishing discountinued all the Sebile Baits that Patrick Sebile really worked on to make them pefect and instead made the action series.....but you can find deals on the Sebile lures on Ebay still, and I would get a few Flatt Shad 77 SU the only suspending model they make before they vanish. You can find them for $10 on Ebay which is a good buy compared to other lures...

Video of the Snagless Flatt Shad/Suspending-the 2 best imo....It truly is more weedless than any other lure including the Norman Scorpion, only bait similar is the Creme mad dad minnow which is a soft body, but you can modify you favorite lure to become snagless like the Aruku Shad as it needs a heavy hunting nose down action.

 

OK ~ See what you did now - I just ordered two more.

Love that Amber Fashion color !

A-Jay

[primetime]

4 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

Guess the cat's totally out of the bag now ~

A-Jay

There are not enough to go around anymore anyway, plus with a little creativity you can find a way to make a few other lures do the same things...I use the double hook on Aruku Shads and a feather on the tail and it is awesome at times since it falls with that nice action and will also come through cover really well. It just takes a long time to figure out the right size hooks, and type of dressing, split ring to make it all run correct...I use the Cordell suspenders as well and if they had more colors I would use them much more....I want to try the Bill Lewis suspenders...I know a few companies make them....I have tried floating traps but have never had successs and they are super light so hard to cast, and if they get one blade of grass on the hooks they run sideways...

People laugh at me, but i use the Mad Dad Minnow from Creme on spinning gear and it is a d**n good lure for 2.99 and less....

[smalljaw67]

I use the 66 sinking and it was an absolute killer for clear water and pressured fish as they are basically a silent bait. When the bass are scattered during the early post spawn period, the Flatt Shad is what I use to cover water because I can reel it slow and it isn't intimidating to the fish, they just eat it. I have roughly 2 dozen so I know I'm good for awhile and because it was higher priced, they tend to show up periodically and I can get them cheap. The last 4 I got I paid $3.00 each and I would have bought more but that was all they had.

[BannedForSpamming-1234555]

Now I gotta find that lure

[deaknh03]

Off topic...the sebile crankster...awesome.

[Paul Roberts]

21 hours ago, primetime said:

People laugh at me, but i use the Mad Dad Minnow from Creme on spinning gear and it is a d**n good lure for 2.99 and less....

I almost ordered some to try out, but chickened out since I've seen many soft hardbaits fall short. 

[smalljaw67]

16 hours ago, deaknh03 said:

Off topic...the sebile crankster...awesome.

I have a bunch of the 50SR, that little bait draws big fish to it!!!! I do really well with black and ghost violet.

[bassinbrooster]

i found some a couple weeks ago and have a few for sale.... sucks they are discontinued.

one of hank parkers go to baits.  I've only recently found out about them and in two trips have gotten two 8s and a 5 in the boat.

golden shiner and natural shiner... i have a few left of hollow mullet, bluegill, and natural dark black back which is a sexy shad ghost color.

contact me if you are interested.