Super User smalljaw67 Posted February 10, 2016 Super User Posted February 10, 2016 I probably fish some of the same waters as you do and I like to use the ned rig a lot but we've been using it for a long time only we used to fish it on a 1/16oz ball head and call it a dog turd because we used brown 3" senkos and that is what it looks like. Anyway a good medium power spinning rod with 6lb to 8lb line is great for those types of things. I just poured, painted and tied some Eakins style jigs in 5/16oz, I used a 4/0 Owner 5326 cross eye hook (flat eye) in that jig and it is considered a light wire hook and I throw that on 14lb line. The difference is that it isn't an Aberdeen style hook, most jigs that have a 90 degree line tie, like the mushroom head you were talking about, are Aberdeen style and do better with light line, but finesse jigs like the one I'm telling you about can be fished on the heavier line. I don't know how much experience you have with finesse fishing but there are different types with different hooks and some of them require lighter set ups but that is what finesse fishing is all about. Quote
thebillsman Posted February 10, 2016 Author Posted February 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, smalljaw67 said: I probably fish some of the same waters as you do and I like to use the ned rig a lot but we've been using it for a long time only we used to fish it on a 1/16oz ball head and call it a dog turd because we used brown 3" senkos and that is what it looks like. Anyway a good medium power spinning rod with 6lb to 8lb line is great for those types of things. I just poured, painted and tied some Eakins style jigs in 5/16oz, I used a 4/0 Owner 5326 cross eye hook (flat eye) in that jig and it is considered a light wire hook and I throw that on 14lb line. The difference is that it isn't an Aberdeen style hook, most jigs that have a 90 degree line tie, like the mushroom head you were talking about, are Aberdeen style and do better with light line, but finesse jigs like the one I'm telling you about can be fished on the heavier line. I don't know how much experience you have with finesse fishing but there are different types with different hooks and some of them require lighter set ups but that is what finesse fishing is all about. Thanks for the great information. So, given that the majority of my football jigs tie on from the top should I be using lighter line? I never had any issues bending hooks with a MH and 50lb braid.. why would I now experience it with a M/F and 14lb FC? Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted February 10, 2016 Super User Posted February 10, 2016 The football jigs you are using are probably made with a heavy wire, 60 degree hook which are also on the top. Go you You Tube and look my name up, smalljaw, I have a video explaining different hook types, you'll want to see part 1 I believe, it may help show you what I'm trying to tell you. Quote
thebillsman Posted February 10, 2016 Author Posted February 10, 2016 Just now, smalljaw67 said: The football jigs you are using are probably made with a heavy wire, 60 degree hook which are also on the top. Go you You Tube and look my name up, smalljaw, I have a video explaining different hook types, you'll want to see part 1 I believe, it may help show you what I'm trying to tell you. Will do. If you don't mind me picking your brain. Do you think my current outfit will suffice for open water, soft banks and jigging rocks? I wasn't originally set on making this rod a Ned setup, I just wanted a much lighter option for bottom contact and rigged plastics. Quote
WPCfishing Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 I'm into jigs. I buy from Siebert now and then. I put these together with his jigs and my skirts. Smoken Good! I use braid with a 15# CX leader with the finesse jigs. Quote
Turtle135 Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 2 hours ago, smalljaw67 said: Yes, 14lb for a 1/4oz jig is fine but not all jigs, I make some 1/4oz football heads that 14lb test would be overkill unless used on a spinning set up. I guess it matters to me since I make so many kinds of jigs but you are thinking of 1/4oz skirted jigs which normally have a hook that 14lb line can easily handle. The OP sounds as if he wants 1 rod for ned rigs and 1/4oz jigs, you can do it but that line will lead to bent and broken hooks so the best bet is to use a spinning set up for the light stuff. I was replying to his question: "Getting away from Ned's, will 14lb fc be too much for standard 1/8-1/4oz jigs". I think the OP knew by this point of this thread what he was doing was not optimal. Yes he would be limiting casting distance and yes he runs the risk of straightening a light wire hook. I figured I would throw a picture in there of a fairly standard 1/4 ounce swim jig so that we would be on the same page. Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted February 11, 2016 Super User Posted February 11, 2016 6'9" Medium, Extra Fast, 12 lb Big Game and a 6.3 reel. Everything from 1/16 T-rig to 5/16 jigs of all sorts. I catch a lot of fish with this setup. If I'm pitching into heavier cover, I'll step up to a 7' MH and 14-17 lb test, but I'm sure I'd get most out with the lighter outfit. Quote
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