Ned Rig Mushroom Head Weight Question

[Bluebasser86]

3 hours ago, QUAKEnSHAKE said:

Hasnt Ned mentioned this is a rare occurrence only a few times a year actually? Mindset might be 25 per hour but thats not happening regularly even for him. 

  

I don't believe he's hit 101 at all this year. We had a ton of rain this spring that dirtied the water and made it difficult for finesse fishing techniques. I've had 4 or 5 days with triple digit numbers of fish this year, but those are full days on the water, not 4 hours. 

[Team9nine]

9 hours ago, QUAKEnSHAKE said:

Hasnt Ned mentioned this is a rare occurrence only a few times a year actually? Mindset might be 25 per hour but thats not happening regularly even for him. 

  

 

Correct, but that doesn't change the approach, which is fish less hours but try to catch as many bass as you can in that shortened time frame. It's not too dissimilar to tournament fishing in that regard. I've reached the 100+ bass target only 4 times, twice using predominantly Midwest Finesse tactics, but I've had dozens and dozens of 60-80 bass days (4 hrs or less) by trying to reach 100.

[IndianaFinesse]

11 hours ago, cgolf said:

 

If I remember indiana uses a sub 4" bit of a zoom of other brand finesse worm and I really like 1/2 an anglers choice wart hawg. 1/2 a senko or senko imitation would work too. I just like the wart hawg because it has the diameter of a finesse worm without the funky worm shape, where finesse worms slim down and puff out at the tail. 

A 3-4 inch zoom finesse trick worm can be a great ned rig plastic, but that 3.5-4 inch strike king/zman finesse wormz is deadly.  I use it almost as much as half of a zinkerz.  Great on a 2/0 1/8 ounce finesse shaky head to.

[Cgolf]

48 minutes ago, Team9nine said:

 

Correct, but that doesn't change the approach, which is fish less hours but try to catch as many bass as you can in that shortened time frame. It's not too dissimilar to tournament fishing in that regard. I've reached the 100+ bass target only 4 times, twice using predominantly Midwest Finesse tactics, but I've had dozens and dozens of 60-80 bass days (4 hrs or less) by trying to reach 100.

You guys must have bass that school up like walleyes lol. 25 bass an hour is nuts when you think about it, almost has to be a fish a cast. Have to figure 1-2 minutes to catch and release a fish right, more if it is a toad?

[IndianaFinesse]

12 minutes ago, cgolf said:

You guys must have bass that school up like walleyes lol. 25 bass an hour is nuts when you think about it, almost has to be a fish a cast. Have to figure 1-2 minutes to catch and release a fish right, more if it is a toad?

I wish.. Kansas fishing actually sucks almost as bad as indiana's, which is in part why Midwest finesse was created.  Statistically, Indiana has the worst bass fishing in the country.  25 bass an hour is a lot, (I've never personally reached 100 bass in a 4 hour period, though I did get 99 in about 5.5-6 hours once), but if you hit it right you can do even better.  Fastest action that I've ever had was 38 bass in 50 minutes, unfortunately that was the only time I had that day and I left them biting.  

[Team9nine]

1 hour ago, cgolf said:

You guys must have bass that school up like walleyes lol. 25 bass an hour is nuts when you think about it, almost has to be a fish a cast. Have to figure 1-2 minutes to catch and release a fish right, more if it is a toad?

 

It sounds nuts until you look at most any states electrofishing results and see them shocking up anywhere between 50-200 bass an hour. You quickly realize catching that many fish isn't quite as impossible as it first might sound, especially when size plays no part in the equation.

 

On time to C&R, only 15-20 seconds much of the time. Casting and retrieving usually takes up the most time. Hooking, landing and releasing is the easy part.

[Bluebasser86]

14 hours ago, IndianaFinesse said:

  Statistically, Indiana has the worst bass fishing in the country.  

I've only fished Indiana once and I have no problem believing that as fact. 

 

14 hours ago, cgolf said:

You guys must have bass that school up like walleyes lol. 25 bass an hour is nuts when you think about it, almost has to be a fish a cast. Have to figure 1-2 minutes to catch and release a fish right, more if it is a toad?

Our bass actually rarely school in large numbers except during the summer when the young of the year shad school up, but they're very difficult to catch when that happens. They'll also group up during the winter months, which is when Ned seems to most often hit his goal. I've found them in large schools in the power plant lakes during the winter time. 

 

I think most often it's so effective because our fish feed shallow and our lakes offer little cover so the targets are very obvious so cast-to-catch time is very short. I've noticed in most of my videos that my time from cast to when I release the fish is often no longer than 30 seconds. Even a large fish will be under a minute unless I weigh and/or take pictures of it. 

[The Bassman]

17 hours ago, Team9nine said:

 

Correct, but that doesn't change the approach, which is fish less hours but try to catch as many bass as you can in that shortened time frame. It's not too dissimilar to tournament fishing in that regard. I've reached the 100+ bass target only 4 times, twice using predominantly Midwest Finesse tactics, but I've had dozens and dozens of 60-80 bass days (4 hrs or less) by trying to reach 100.

 

Someone once said that a kid wants to catch a lot of  fish, a young man wants to catch a big fish, and an old man just wants to fish.  I can see you're a kid at heart.

[Comfortably Numb]

Dont forget the type of bait you use has alot to do with weight/sink rate. An Elastec bait they floats will make the 1/16 head closer to 1/32 in the water.

[Dorado]

On 2/8/2016 at 3:33 PM, Team9nine said:

Both will work, but the heavier you go, the more you get away from what makes the rig somewhat unique. Most purists use 1/16 and 1/32-oz heads because they are trying to achieve the "no-feel" retrieve. Instead, try and think of "Ned" more along the lines of weightless wacky or trick worming, and less along the lines of traditional jig or worm fishing. Most times we want our baits just swimming and floating along in the water column, just somewhat shy of neutrally buoyant.

-T9

Perfectly stated right here. Nailed it