Splitting fuel and other costs with a regular partner

[clh121787]

Preface...I fish 90 percent alone. Which i like yet i dont mind fishing with others. I met this 18 year old young man, family friend. loves to fish. Not a bad angler. Don't expect him to chip in for anything since I invited him. But the first time we fish he's an hour late to the dock. Calling me for directions s to the lake (lake only has one launch, lcoated in his own home town...) anyway. Decent trip. He calls me again asking if he can join me for another fishing trip 2 days later. I say sure. Again he's 45 minutes late, doesn't offer any gas money, and then after lunch at the marina he mentions to me he doesn't have any money to pay for his meal... after the fact he just ate a double double... really? Whatever no big deal and ten bucks later. Ive decided at this point he has worn out his welcome with me.yet he still calls me asking to fish with me. I always decline nicely. And since we're friends on insta space he'll see pictures. Then txt me later  asking why I didn't invite him to go. It's getting kind of agrivating

[junyer357]

Wow. I cant beleive the launch fees some of yall pay. Im spoiled i guess. I have 5 lakes i can be on in under 2hr drive.  Fees are free - $3-5 for me anywhere i go. The alabama power ramps at the dam are free and most other privately owened public use launches are 4 or 5. 

 

@clh121787 that would aggrevate most anyone as well.  If someone invites me i try to be 5 min early and bring a few bottles of water or gatorade for sharing as well as my own use. I keep a tub of pop tarts, crackers, chips, granola bars, etc... for work snacks in my truck and offer whomever i go with their choice of what they want. 

[WIGuide]

For me, if I'm just fun fishing, I don't expect anything. I'm going with or without them so an extra person doesn't change anything. As far as tournaments go, if I'm fishing them with someone else they pay half the entry I pay half and they give me something for gas. If we place in the money we split it and if one of us catch big bass the person who caught it keeps the money for it. 

Most of the time my tourney partner is my dad though and although we don't have an exact system other than with the payouts, we end up with about a 50/50 split. I'll at times pay the whole entry fee and then he'll pay gas or if we're prefishing whoever pays for gas eats free. It's one of those unwritten systems that just kind of works.

 

On a side note, WOW what some of you guys are paying for launch fees is crazy! I'm glad I am where I am. Within about an hour radius of my house there's close to if not over 100 different lakes. Very few of which there are launch fees for. The ones you do have to pay for it's usually $3 or $5. One of the counties sells a seasonal pass for any of the county ramps there for $20 a year.

[stkbassn]

10 hours ago, clh121787 said:

Preface...I fish 90 percent alone. Which i like yet i dont mind fishing with others. I met this 18 year old young man, family friend. loves to fish. Not a bad angler. Don't expect him to chip in for anything since I invited him. But the first time we fish he's an hour late to the dock. Calling me for directions s to the lake (lake only has one launch, lcoated in his own home town...) anyway. Decent trip. He calls me again asking if he can join me for another fishing trip 2 days later. I say sure. Again he's 45 minutes late, doesn't offer any gas money, and then after lunch at the marina he mentions to me he doesn't have any money to pay for his meal... after the fact he just ate a double double... really? Whatever no big deal and ten bucks later. Ive decided at this point he has worn out his welcome with me.yet he still calls me asking to fish with me. I always decline nicely. And since we're friends on insta space he'll see pictures. Then txt me later  asking why I didn't invite him to go. It's getting kind of agrivating

That's pretty ridiculous. Maybe he's in a tight spot in life but that's not your burden to bare. I tell you what, one thing I am NOT late for is fishing! And then to expect you to wait and cover all expenses including a lunch he knew he couldn't pay for...wow! That takes a lot of nerve. Sounds like a sure fire way to never get invited again to me. I don't blame you for that. It's one thing if he shows up early, brings his own lunch, and informs you ahead of time that he doesn't have much to offer in the way of money or any other contribution....then if you enjoyed his company enough and still decided to have him along great...but all of that nonsense, nope!

[tomustang]

But he's 18, still just a baby...

[BaitMonkey1984]

12 hours ago, clh121787 said:

Preface...I fish 90 percent alone. Which i like yet i dont mind fishing with others. I met this 18 year old young man, family friend. loves to fish. Not a bad angler. Don't expect him to chip in for anything since I invited him. But the first time we fish he's an hour late to the dock. Calling me for directions s to the lake (lake only has one launch, lcoated in his own home town...) anyway. Decent trip. He calls me again asking if he can join me for another fishing trip 2 days later. I say sure. Again he's 45 minutes late, doesn't offer any gas money, and then after lunch at the marina he mentions to me he doesn't have any money to pay for his meal... after the fact he just ate a double double... really? Whatever no big deal and ten bucks later. Ive decided at this point he has worn out his welcome with me.yet he still calls me asking to fish with me. I always decline nicely. And since we're friends on insta space he'll see pictures. Then txt me later  asking why I didn't invite him to go. It's getting kind of agrivating

I go salmon fishing one week every summer with a bunch of friends and Dads. We fish two people per boat because we fish with down riggers and you are only allowed two rods. One friends dad is a diehard, after a night of partying he still makes sure he is up first thing in the morning, gets his coffee, gets the smelt, and then he's off to the dock. If you aren't there after he is ready and the boat is warmed up, he leaves without you and you either down fish that day, fish with someone else, or get a ride out to his boat. Last time this happened, my buddy got pisssed at him and hasn't been back up since. I thought that was bad, but I would have given the kid 15 minutes then left him on the bank.

[Starchalopakis]

On 2/3/2016 at 11:11 PM, Bluebasser86 said:

$10 launch fee! That's outrageous! It's $15 for a year permit for any state owned ramp here, which there's at least one on almost every major reservoir in the state.

 

 

You think $10 is outrageous, one of the lakes around here is $11 for your vehicle and $13 for your boat. $24 to launch for one day!

[tomustang]

15 minutes ago, Starchalopakis said:

You think $10 is outrageous, one of the lakes around here is $11 for your vehicle and $13 for your boat. $24 to launch for one day!

That's commiefornia for ya, they even charged to get into the park at folsom lake, I drove around the park for 5 minutes and asked the wife what exactly did I pay for

[gulfcaptain]

26 minutes ago, Starchalopakis said:

You think $10 is outrageous, one of the lakes around here is $11 for your vehicle and $13 for your boat. $24 to launch for one day!

Yep, and then there's the inspections, stickers, outboard requirements.  Lets just say if I'm going fishing and my partner has a truck, he pays for the gas in the truck, and I'll pay for the gas in the boat.  Otherwise, it's going to be a 50/50 split on expenses (gas for both and launch fees).  Fished that Snag Proof tournament in the Delta last summer with a partner, I paid the entry fee for us, some launch fees, and he covered the gas and the other launch fees.  All together the 4 days of fishing each put us back about $300.  But then the delta is a big place and you can burn through 20 gallons of gas pretty quick and that $20 fee to lauch the boat each day sucked too.

[Bluebasser86]

1 hour ago, Starchalopakis said:

You think $10 is outrageous, one of the lakes around here is $11 for your vehicle and $13 for your boat. $24 to launch for one day!

I drive an extra 5 miles to avoid paying $3 at the CORPS ramp so I can launch for free at the state ramp. $24 for a ramp better be on Erie or Falcon.

[gardnerjigman]

On Thursday, February 04, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Bluebasser86 said:

I drive an extra 5 miles to avoid paying $3 at the CORPS ramp so I can launch for free at the state ramp. $24 for a ramp better be on Erie or Falcon.

And better come with a kicker guarentee!

[tander]

The reservoir that I fish is free. They tried to put a $30 yearly launch fee but received so much fuss they decided not to start it. I was for it because they were suppose to improve ramps but you never know what they were actually going to do with the money. The most I pay for fishing is $20 a day but it is a lake they only open about 3 times a year.

[Snakehead Whisperer]

On 2/3/2016 at 2:11 AM, Bluebasser86 said:

$10 launch fee! That's outrageous! It's $15 for a year permit for any state owned ramp here, which there's at least one on almost every major reservoir in the state.

National Park Service runs the boat ramp in DC. It's free! (Free as in free beer not freedom, launch is closed from 10pm-6am.)

As for splitting costs, it's rare that I go out on somebody else's boat. When I do I always offer gas money and try my best to bring food and drink that the boater will enjoy. I have friends who insist that I take their money, every single time that I take them out on my boat. This year I am going to put my foot down and refuse their money, as it usually exceeds the amount I spend on gas. 

One of my friend's rationale is that he is paying for maintenance and incidentals. My rationale is that I'd be out there whether he comes along or not, so these things are my responsibility. He sees it as a gesture that ensures that I'll invite him back, but I enjoy his company so that's not an issue. 

Bottom line is if you have a cantankerous personality, pay for gas. If you're an easy going guy who plays well with others, don't sweat it. 

[FSUFish]

I normally fish alone. But when I'm in the skiff and invite a friend (either dad, brother or 1 friend) I expect nothing, and decline all offers of money.  I'd rather not fish with you guys who expect pay.

[geo g]

I have fished with others for about 35 years and have never charged anyone a penny.  I would be going with or without them and appreciate the company.  I had one exclusive partner for 20 years and he would often pay tolls and bring breakfast rolls for the trip.  The food was greatly appreciated.

[geo g]

On ‎2‎/‎4‎/‎2016 at 4:16 PM, tomustang said:

But he's 18, still just a baby...

Babies have a lot of lessons to learn.  He just learned one!!!!!!!!!!

[Bluebasser86]

On 2/4/2016 at 2:45 AM, clh121787 said:

Preface...I fish 90 percent alone. Which i like yet i dont mind fishing with others. I met this 18 year old young man, family friend. loves to fish. Not a bad angler. Don't expect him to chip in for anything since I invited him. But the first time we fish he's an hour late to the dock. Calling me for directions s to the lake (lake only has one launch, lcoated in his own home town...) anyway. Decent trip. He calls me again asking if he can join me for another fishing trip 2 days later. I say sure. Again he's 45 minutes late, doesn't offer any gas money, and then after lunch at the marina he mentions to me he doesn't have any money to pay for his meal... after the fact he just ate a double double... really? Whatever no big deal and ten bucks later. Ive decided at this point he has worn out his welcome with me.yet he still calls me asking to fish with me. I always decline nicely. And since we're friends on insta space he'll see pictures. Then txt me later  asking why I didn't invite him to go. It's getting kind of agrivating

If someone is a bad mooch, I'll usually make sure to tell them well in advance that money is tight and I need gas money or tell them I'll get the gas if they buy lunch, no excuses for it then. As for being late, tell him a time 30 minutes earlier than you're planning on going.

The other option is to man up and tell him that he needs to be more responsible and start showing up on time and at least buying his own lunch or you'll stop inviting him. Sounds like the young man might need to hear something like that so maybe he can realize he needs to take some ownership.