Super User iabass8 Posted January 26, 2016 Super User Posted January 26, 2016 I think fried dumplings are exquisite. Steamed...not so much. 2 Quote
Molay1292 Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 58 minutes ago, iabass8 said: I think fried dumplings are exquisite. Steamed...not so much. Interesting, how would you feel if you bought and paid for fried dumplings, but they brought you steamed? Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted January 26, 2016 Super User Posted January 26, 2016 6 hours ago, Molay1292 said: Interesting, how would you feel if you bought and paid for fried dumplings, but they brought you steamed? What if ....soup...was eaten with a...fork? Quote
Molay1292 Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 3 hours ago, iabass8 said: What if ....soup...was eaten with a...fork? I could give a fork less Quote
smallie.mike Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 14 hours ago, Molay1292 said: The Shimano web-site advertises the FK as an all metal body and then go into detail about how much better it makes the reel. Are we 100% sure the body is not some form of metal alloy? Here is a video of the stradic being taken apart. Fast forward to 3:15 when the aluminum stem side is removed. The part that's left "the body" that holds all the gears is composite. If you pause and look closely you can tell it's composite. I'll take mine apart again when I get a chance and post close up pictures. 2 Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted January 26, 2016 Super User Posted January 26, 2016 Sharp looking reel that carries the Stradic name. Not sure how much I want/need one. Not too worried about the body material. There was a lot of fuss about the Zaion body material Daiwa started using. Well they are still using it today and I haven't had any issues with it. 1 Quote
smallie.mike Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 2 hours ago, kickerfish1 said: Sharp looking reel that carries the Stradic name. Not sure how much I want/need one. Not too worried about the body material. There was a lot of fuss about the Zaion body material Daiwa started using. Well they are still using it today and I haven't had any issues with it. That's not the point. Shimano advertises this reel as having an all metal body which it doesn't. People should be worried about misleading false advertising. I have no issues with the materials, the fj is made the same with a half composite half aluminum body and it's a great reel. But if it carries the stradic name like you said, nothing else matters to some I guess. Same thing with the curado I, it's gotta be worth the extra money over the citica just because it's got the name curado on it. Quote
Super User fishballer06 Posted January 26, 2016 Super User Posted January 26, 2016 Great review. I picked up the 2500 in this reel at the end of the season. I can't wait to test it out come spring time. Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted January 26, 2016 Super User Posted January 26, 2016 7 hours ago, Molay1292 said: I could give a fork less Forkless....or tuna /w mayo? Quote
Molay1292 Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 18 minutes ago, iabass8 said: Forkless....or tuna /w mayo? I'll play your silly game Quote
smallie.mike Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 I noticed TT made some changes to their original review. Quote from the new modified review... "The Hagane body means that the body is constructed primarily out of metal, which is not only tough but also provides more exacting tolerances in which to hold all the moving parts, the guts of the reel. It is easy to understand why these features make sense on a larger more powerful reels like the TwinPower or bigger Stella models for example, but Shimano believes that these features translate equally well for reels like the smaller Stradic FK models, and this is the first Shimano spinning reel designed primarily for freshwater to debut with the Hagane concept. On the Stradic FK the main frame of the reel is made out of aluminum, the part that connects to the arm, while the other side is durable compsite. This isn't all that different than some previous generation Shimano reels, it is just branded as Hagane now. Regardless of all the marketing nomenclature we were eager to see how the reel would perform in the field." 2 Quote
MRG Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 Let's face it, these marketing buzzwords such as Hagane and Zaion are typically 99.985% BS hype and .015% substance. The various big tackle company marketing departments like to engage in this practice of conjuring up interesting sounding names and applying them to something that has been around for years. In most cases, I think it's best to ignore this sort of hype and judge a reel based on functional and aesthetic qualities. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted January 28, 2016 Super User Posted January 28, 2016 19 minutes ago, MRG said: Let's face it, these marketing buzzwords such as Hagane and Zaion are typically 99.985% BS hype and .015% substance. The various big tackle company marketing departments like to engage in this practice of conjuring up interesting sounding names and applying them to something that has been around for years. In most cases, I think it's best to ignore this sort of hype and judge a reel based on functional and aesthetic qualities. You'll hurt a fanboys feeling saying that Quote
smallie.mike Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 1 hour ago, MRG said: Let's face it, these marketing buzzwords such as Hagane and Zaion are typically 99.985% BS hype and .015% substance. The various big tackle company marketing departments like to engage in this practice of conjuring up interesting sounding names and applying them to something that has been around for years. In most cases, I think it's best to ignore this sort of hype and judge a reel based on functional and aesthetic qualities. I agree it's mostly hype and buzzwords....But how can one judge a reel on functional qualities when the manufacturer isn't specific or falsely advertises what materials the reel is made of? To me an aluminum or composite frame is a functional quality. If you go to shimano's website and look at the specs for the stradic fk it says it has a metal body. If you look a schematic the part listed as the "body" that houses all the gears and bearings is composite. In my opinion that's false advertisement. Quote
oomph Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 Trying to decide if I want to buy one or buy another Ci4 2500, which I really enjoy fishing with. Anyone own both and can provide feedback? Quote
bootytrain Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 14 hours ago, oomph said: Trying to decide if I want to buy one or buy another Ci4 2500, which I really enjoy fishing with. Anyone own both and can provide feedback? You may want to wait, a new Stradic Ci4 is coming out Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted January 28, 2016 Super User Posted January 28, 2016 15 minutes ago, oomph said: When is the new stradic Ci4 due out? This year Quote
oomph Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 This year as in by the Spring season? or as in at some other point later in the year. Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted January 28, 2016 Super User Posted January 28, 2016 42 minutes ago, oomph said: This year as in by the Spring season? or as in at some point during the year. This year we will find out that the reel is coming out sometime later this year and will be sold out for preorders and then be available for purchase later this year Quote
smallie.mike Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 11 minutes ago, iabass8 said: This year we will find out that the reel is coming out sometime later this year and will be sold out for preorders and then be available for purchase later this year Is it too early to start recommending this reel even though I've never even seen a picture of it yet? Quote
oomph Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 ok, so back to my original question then. How does the Ci4+ compare to the new FK? I'm buying another reel for this spring, and I'd like to hear an opinion from someone that may happen to own both models. 1 Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted January 28, 2016 Super User Posted January 28, 2016 2 hours ago, smallie.mike said: Is it too early to start recommending this reel even though I've never even seen a picture of it yet? everybody likes pizza 1 Quote
smallie.mike Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 26 minutes ago, iabass8 said: everybody likes pizza Broken pencils are pointless Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted January 28, 2016 Super User Posted January 28, 2016 18 minutes ago, smallie.mike said: Broken pencils are pointless negative. Broken pencil =2 pencils=more money for pizza. Quote
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