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On January 24, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Fishinthefish said:

I've never seen anything outcast a Shimano Core, ever. I own one, I've fished with several of them and when I'm testing a new reel like I will be with a few I ordered recently I always compare it to the casting distance, and smooth retrieve of the Core. I've seen 600$+ reels that can't hold a candle to the core.

I own 50 & 100 mg7s. I agree with you that they're smooth as silk, but I have (14-1) Fishing Con**pt A & Cs that outcast my Cores, and are nearly as smooth.  

I also own a Diawa 1016 T3 Ballistic that out distances everything I own.

Just my experience.

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I've actually dabbled in long distance casting years ago. I still have all my gear. custom surf rods made by Ryan White(master class) competitive caster from hatters jacks. Rods Made on conoflex(1st rod company to reach 900ft) blanks. Breakaway rods and purglas from South Africa, Penn ppt pendulum etc. all my reels are Abu 5500, 6500 ctc3 reels with no level winds. Also a penn 525 mag. There are 3 basic reels used by all competitive casters. Abu 5500/6500, penn 525, and DAIWA millionaire mag model. All the reels will be set up with an additional knob for braking and Good bearings. The line is usually 8-10lb mono with shock leader being 10x the lbs vs weight of the weight. 4oz=40lb, 5oz=50lb, with just enough shock leader to wrap around the spool 4-5 times. Top rods are century, conoflex and zziplex. With reels mounted at bottom of the handle for most leverage. These guys are using basically the same equipment. It is the person and technique that makes the difference. Period. There is no arguing this. Certain casting techniques are more powerful than others and get more distance. I.e. Off the ground cast(fairly powerful) and the pendulum(most powerful and most distance) this is also proven on the field. Spinning rods don't come close the bait asters in this realm also. Though none of this has anything to do with bass fishing it has help me be a really good caster. most good bass reels will have close to the same performance. It has more to do with the man loading the rod. Each Rod performs differently for casting. Bottom line is your not casting for records or bragging rights on the lake. Cast to your intended targets and be reasonable with the distance because physics is against you(hook setting capability at distance). Sorry for the long post. Btw, If anyone is interested in learning to power cast with long rods. Look at Neil mackellows video from breakaway. He shows all the casting techniques used in competition/surf. 

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8 minutes ago, Kidflex said:

I've actually dabbled in long distance casting years ago. I still have all my gear. custom surf rods made by Ryan White(master class) competitive caster from hatters jacks. Rods Made on conoflex(1st rod company to reach 900ft) blanks. Breakaway rods and purglas from South Africa, Penn ppt pendulum etc. all my reels are Abu 5500, 6500 ctc3 reels with no level winds. Also a penn 525 mag. There are 3 basic reels used by all competitive casters. Abu 5500/6500, penn 525, and DAIWA millionaire mag model. All the reels will be set up with an additional knob for braking and Good bearings. The line is usually 8-10lb mono with shock leader being 10x the lbs vs weight of the weight. 4oz=40lb, 5oz=50lb, with just enough shock leader to wrap around the spool 4-5 times. Top rods are century, conoflex and zziplex. With reels mounted at bottom of the handle for most leverage. These guys are using basically the same equipment. It is the person and technique that makes the difference. Period. There is no arguing this. Certain casting techniques are more powerful than others and get more distance. I.e. Off the ground cast(fairly powerful) and the pendulum(most powerful and most distance) this is also proven on the field. Spinning rods don't come close the bait asters in this realm also. Though none of this has anything to do with bass fishing it has help me be a really good caster. most good bass reels will have close to the same performance. It has more to do with the man loading the rod. Each Rod performs differently for casting. Bottom line is your not casting for records or bragging rights on the lake. Cast to your intended targets and be reasonable with the distance because physics is against you(hook setting capability at distance). Sorry for the long post. Btw, If anyone is interested in learning to power cast with long rods. Look at Neil mackellows video from breakaway. He shows all the casting techniques used in competition/surf. 

Thanks for chiming in.

So... in your opinion...

After the caster, and technique applied, what's next on the list?

Rod, reel, line?

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Apparently the longest casting reel is a Daiwa Millionaire 7HT Mag. That's the reel the current record was set with.

Daiwa-Millionaire-7HT-Mag.jpg

 

Get 'em while they're hot!

Tom

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No thanks at 12 ounces. While I have no doubt that these large capacity round reels are the distance kings for casting reels I have no use for one for bass fishing. Enough people complain about a reel being heavy at 8 ounces...

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12 minutes ago, kickerfish1 said:

No thanks at 12 ounces. While I have no doubt that these large capacity round reels are the distance kings for casting reels I have no use for one for bass fishing. Enough people complain about a reel being heavy at 8 ounces...

I was being facetious.:D  IMHO, there is no one reel that can be labeled "the longest casting baitcaster". There are WAY too many other things that affect casting distance other than the reel. Any high-quality baitcaster can be set up, modified, super-tuned, etc. to cast as far as anyone wuld need to while bass fishing. 

Distance is for show, accuracy catches fish.

 

Tom

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My comment was more directed to the guys that fish with oversized gear and sight these large round reels as distance kings. I am not disagreeing but rather looking at this realistically in terms of modern day bass fishing... Not surf fishing, large freshwater game fish, or such. 

Casting distance is a term that always creates some controversy. Most of the numbers are often not realstic. What I mean is how often is a bass fisherman casting a lead sinker only? Or how about a hevier lipless crank bait? Most of what I throw has some degree of wind resistance to it. 

What I want are reels and setups that will cast normal bass lures, in normal weight ranges, that are comfortable to use for extended period of time to achieve an "acceptable" long distance.

Do I think it is fun to tie on heavy or impractical baits like a 1 oz lipless with no hooks and see how far I can chuck it? Sure, that kind of distance is fun and intersting to think about. What I am more interested in the every day side of it...

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5 hours ago, Paul Roberts said:

Thanks for chiming in.

So... in your opinion...

After the caster, and technique applied, what's next on the list?

Rod, reel, line?

Exactly how you have it listed. Rod, reel then line. 

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Getting back to the OP question, what reel cast the longest. Guys, keep in mind that I am laughing a little bit as I am typing so please, don't get your britches all in a wad and give me it's the rod, then the line blah blah blah. What he wanted to know was, what is the longest casting reel for him and the lures that he is going to use. That means that he is using one rod and whatever line he chooses. If you take 25 different models of reels, and spool them with identical line and mount them on the same rod and use the same lure, more than likely, one reel is going to come out on top.  Out of what is available now, the Calais/Antares DC wins.

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On 1/24/2016 at 5:09 PM, Fishinthefish said:

An advertising company of this site just made a definitive statement about rods being what casts, with reels not playing a part unless they're set up improperly.. My point will be simply to show that it's misinformation for people whom take their advertiser tag, and word over common sense.

While you can find plenty of misinformation on this thread, it is not DVT that is doing it. Mike makes the point that the right rod is far more important for distance than the reel. I completely agree. Yes there is some differences in distance across the spectrum of quality, commonly used bass fishing reels; but, on the same rod, using the same line and lure the difference in distance will be negligible. This assumes well maintained and set-up reels in the hands of a skilled caster. 

Now have the same person take anyone of those same reels (or all of them) and a selection of rods of various manufacturers in assorted lengths, power and action, making sure the weight of the lure is within the range recommended by the manufacturer. The difference in distance from rod to rod will be dramatic.

Mike is one of the most respected individuals on this site. He has helped many of us with maintenance, troubleshooting and repair of our equipment, often at no charge. His common sense is apparent to anyone paying any attention. For others the jury is still out...

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On January 24, 2016 at 3:46 PM, cddan said:

Read the casting distance thread.  So what baitcasting reel is recommended for distance? I like to launch topwaters in the summer and have had good success with the curado I.  I wondered if anyone has a good suggestion for a baitcasting set up for distance. Rod reel line even different lures not necessarily topwater.  What's everyone's favorite baitcaster for distance? Bank fishing some spots I have the break is at the end of the cast and with a good cast I've caught some fish I wouldn't have.  

Since you like to launch TopWater baits I would suggest the following, a Calais 200 DC and a Loomis SMR 702C-TW. The Rod is 5'10" and rated for 1/4 to 3/4 oz baits but do not let the length fool you. You can put some serious ump into your cast and it will perform for you without hesitation. As for the reel if you cannot get it to sync with the rod PM me and I will be glad to walk you through it. P.S. Launching Topwaters is one of my favorite things to do out on the water...

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Long rods with slower (parabolic) actions are best for distance. That said, I like faster actions (or at least power all the way out) for sensitivity and hook-setting. One can have a "slow" rod with power all the way out. 

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OP, Thanks for that question !

Talking about full circle, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha.........

If, it was me, Look at tholmes, and John G, posts/answer..... These members tried to answer your question. As you asked it. All the others were opinions, that are priceless and have given, Paul Harvey's (the rest of the story). All are spot on.

Now, go buy the one, you can afford, (or save for), that have specifications closest to those reels they mentioned.

It's worked for me!!!!!! Then, get out there and break some records....

The 4 minute mile was humanly impossible, until someone, forgot to tell that to the man, that broke that record.....

KEEP FLIPPING & PITCHING, BABY !!!!!!!

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