Dog troubles

[clayton86]

As some of you remember we got a puppy back on October a walker-blue tick. We made her a family dog inside despite being bred for running coyotes or coons. Also being a hound some think they are some of the dumbest dogs but I disagree even though she is starting to make me rethink that lol. 

 

Shes 6 months old now we've had her for 3 and she's STILL not house broken. I've never had this much trouble training a dog. Actually just the house breaking she knows all other commands and what not. I can open the door let her take off run around the yard and into our woods soon as I open the door and call her name she comes right back which is crazy considering what bred she is that her nose doesn't take over. 

 

I will take her out with me hunting or just doing yard work be out anywhere from 30min to 4 hours she will do her thing out side but soon as we come in she goes on the floor in the house every single time. I've rubbed her nose in it and put her on the chain, just put her back outside, left her in the kennel and only taking her out to go potty then back in hoping it will click on her little brain that outside is for the bathroom not my floor. 

We take her out several times a day or let her have free run for hours some times, the kids play with her constantly outside so she uses up her energy so she's not destructive and it's worked well till Tuesday night the first and only time she has chewed and destroyed anything and boy did she. In one night well we were asleep she ate my artic muck boots, wifi router, Xbox power cord, toys off the baby's bouncer and took a crap right infront of my bedroom door. All in one night I found it all when I woke up for work in the morning I threw her in the kennel and left for work I was so angry I had to just leave and woke the gf to clean up the mess.

 

shes now kenneled at night and not allowed to lay with the kids like she used to.

 

im lost with what to do I've never had this much trouble with s dog and it's mostly the house breaking. Chewing is to be at expected and she's kept it to her toys till the other night and that night cost me a couple hundred in boots and a router. 

I think I'm gonna actually trap a coon and get her trained for hunting maybe running with me and the kids and playing fetch and what not isn't enough.  

 

Any thoughts 

[deaknh03]

Are you letting the dog watch american sniper?

[FloridaFishinFool]

Diagnose her urinary problem in more detail. Does she dribble when sleeping and lay in a wet spot when sleeping? Or is it a behavior problem?

Female dogs that are spayed at an early age have trouble in developing the muscles that close off the plumbing in part due to a hormone imbalance they need as they grow older to help them develop proper muscle tone. Depriving a female dog at too early of an age with spaying can cause this problem. Approximately 20% of spayed females have this problem.

I had a dog with this problem too, but it was not her fault. It was a physical problem, not a behavior problem with her. When she would lay down to sleep she dribbled urine. And even when active she dribbled urine uncontrollably. She had been "butchered" for lack of a better word when spayed by the humane society's vet, and our vet said her problem was because she was spayed too early in life and that she may develop the muscle control with age, or she might not.

There are medications that can help this situation and sometimes a dog may have to take the medication for her entire life.

So you really have to diagnose her urination problem in closer detail as to what she is doing and when.

http://www.vetstreet.com/our-pet-experts/what-you-need-to-know-about-spay-incontinence-in-female-dogs

Please consider if your dog has a physical problem like mine did, punishing the dog for something it can not control is not a good idea. Cut the dog some slack if she is having trouble developing urinary control. It might not be her fault!

Good luck with the chewing things up problem!

[clayton86]

46 minutes ago, deaknh03 said:

Are you letting the dog watch american sniper?

No but we are watching Red Dawn the original with Swayze with Top gun starting next. 

[clayton86]

23 minutes ago, FloridaFishinFool said:

Diagnose her urinary problem in more detail. Does she dribble when sleeping and lay in a wet spot when sleeping? Or is it a behavior problem?

Female dogs that are spayed at an early age have trouble in developing the muscles that close off the plumbing in part due to a hormone imbalance they need as they grow older to help them develop proper muscle tone. Depriving a female dog at too early of an age with spaying can cause this problem. Approximately 20% of spayed females have this problem.

I had a dog with this problem too, but it was not her fault. It was a physical problem, not a behavior problem with her. When she would lay down to sleep she dribbled urine. And even when active she dribbled urine uncontrollably. She had been "butchered" for lack of a better word when spayed by the humane society's vet, and our vet said her problem was because she was spayed too early in life and that she may develop the muscle control with age, or she might not.

There are medications that can help this situation and sometimes a dog may have to take the medication for her entire life.

So you really have to diagnose her urination problem in closer detail as to what she is doing and when.

http://www.vetstreet.com/our-pet-experts/what-you-need-to-know-about-spay-incontinence-in-female-dogs

Please consider if your dog has a physical problem like mine did, punishing the dog for something it can not control is not a good idea. Cut the dog some slack if she is having trouble developing urinary control. It might not be her fault!

Good luck with the chewing things up problem!

She hasn't been spayed yet and I mentioned it to the gf that I think the peeing thing is a medical issue due to they are huge puddles not just a little dribble here or there but giant puddles. 

 

However she she doesn't go in her kennel when we are away or at night. She also doesn't have accidents in the house when my gf is home with her on her days off if seems to be when the sitter is here or when I'm home. 

[Fishing Rhino]

Take her to the vet.  That is not normal behavior.  If she doesn't mess in her kennel, keep her kenneled when you are away.

She may be bonded to your girl friend and experience separation anxiety when she is gone.  That is also why some dogs chew things including the clothing of the person whose absence is troubling.  They equate the scent with that person.

One thing you should do is watch her like a hawk, and keep her in your presence.  As soon as she starts to go, tell her to stop and whisk her outside.  Confine her to the room where you are.  Baby gates are a great invention to contain dogs to a certain area. 

You should never "correct" a dog for any behavior after the fact.  They need to associate the act with displeasing you.  By nature, though it doesn't seem that way, dogs crave your approval, and behave accordingly.

Punishing them after the fact only confuses them.  For instance, you enter the house and see the dog has made a mess, chewed a chair leg, pulled a hunk of meat off the counter, etc.  The dog comes running to greet you and you scold them for what they did in your absence.

It won't be long before the dog stops running to greet you.  They will associate your scolding with your return.

[Josh Smith]

Hello,

OK, here's what I see.

1.  She sees the house as a part of her toilet.  This is because of the lingering scents from past pottying tells her to.  You need to clean these spots thoroughly.  Use a mixture of dish soap, vinegar, hydrogen peroxide, and baking soda.  The exact mix can be found online.  There are also commercial cleaners which get the scent completely out.

2.  Rubbing her nose in it does nothing.    You need to correct the action while she's in the act.  Get a pop can, fill it with pennies, and tape the top.  Shake it.  She won't like this sound and when she squats in the house, start shaking it immediately.  Grab her by the scruff of the neck and lead her outside.

3.  Praise her when she potties outside.  Act like it's the greatest thing you've ever seen.  Give food and pettin'.

4.  Crate her when she's alone.  She will come to love her crate.  It's her space and her space only.  Do not allow others inside the crate, including playing kids.  If she potties in the crate, then there's something wrong with her and you'll need to talk to the vet about it.

5.  Dogs who tear things up are anxious.  Your dog chewing like she did and pooping in front of your door is simply her telling you that she is insecure and it's your fault.  Are you the clear leader?  Do you control the food, or can she just eat whenever?  That said:

6.  Control the food.  He who controls the food is boss.  Do not let her eat before you eat.  Do not let her eat without permission.  Keep the food bowl covered with your hand and progress to teaching her to eat on command.  Some dogs need this and from what you describe, she's one of them.

7.  Pet appropriately.  Scratch her ears.  Play with the top of her muzzle.  Rub her belly.  Play with her rump and tail.  Hug her.  At no time kiss her on the muzzle or anywhere else.  Allow her to lick your chin, though.

8.  Do not rant, rave, or yell.  Be firm and commanding.  When you give a command, act like you're giving an order to a subordinate in the military.  Do not yell if she doesn't snap to, though.  Use a firm, "No," and that rattle can you made.

9.  Keep commands to two syllables or less.  Accompany with hand commands.  Dogs do not understand speech well.  They do understand gestures and body language much better.

10.  Pick up a book on dog language.  Even if you think you know dog language, pick one up anyway.  You'll learn something.  I've done this all my life and still learn a new meaning now-and-again.  Dog language is a pretty intricate thing.

Good luck.  Keep us posted.

Regards,

Josh

1 hour ago, clayton86 said:

As some of you remember we got a puppy back on October a walker-blue tick. We made her a family dog inside despite being bred for running coyotes or coons. Also being a hound some think they are some of the dumbest dogs but I disagree even though she is starting to make me rethink that lol. 

 

Shes 6 months old now we've had her for 3 and she's STILL not house broken. I've never had this much trouble training a dog. Actually just the house breaking she knows all other commands and what not. I can open the door let her take off run around the yard and into our woods soon as I open the door and call her name she comes right back which is crazy considering what bred she is that her nose doesn't take over. 

 

I will take her out with me hunting or just doing yard work be out anywhere from 30min to 4 hours she will do her thing out side but soon as we come in she goes on the floor in the house every single time. I've rubbed her nose in it and put her on the chain, just put her back outside, left her in the kennel and only taking her out to go potty then back in hoping it will click on her little brain that outside is for the bathroom not my floor. 

We take her out several times a day or let her have free run for hours some times, the kids play with her constantly outside so she uses up her energy so she's not destructive and it's worked well till Tuesday night the first and only time she has chewed and destroyed anything and boy did she. In one night well we were asleep she ate my artic muck boots, wifi router, Xbox power cord, toys off the baby's bouncer and took a crap right infront of my bedroom door. All in one night I found it all when I woke up for work in the morning I threw her in the kennel and left for work I was so angry I had to just leave and woke the gf to clean up the mess.

 

shes now kenneled at night and not allowed to lay with the kids like she used to.

 

im lost with what to do I've never had this much trouble with s dog and it's mostly the house breaking. Chewing is to be at expected and she's kept it to her toys till the other night and that night cost me a couple hundred in boots and a router. 

I think I'm gonna actually trap a coon and get her trained for hunting maybe running with me and the kids and playing fetch and what not isn't enough.  

 

Any thoughts 

 

 

 

[Josh Smith]

@Fishing Rhino, we cross-posted.  Yours is excellent advice.  Thank you.

Regards,

Josh

[clayton86]

We have done all that we clean the spots with bleach water though. When we catch her in the act we tell her no and quickly escort her outside. The kids and the baby sitter tend to lack in it though the kids while the gfs son will just sit there watch her then calmly be " the dog just peed on the floor" my son has always wanted a coon hound and takes her out constantly and works with her and will pick her up like a baby mid act and carry her outside while talking to her about being bad. 

 

We control what she eats and how much with he exception of when she goes outside for long periods of time I've noticed she's been hitting my coyote bait pile eating the deer and goose carcasses. Nothing like checking the trail cam getting excited its loaded with pics only to find out 3/4  of them are your puppy and not coyotes or fox. 

Ill try the pennies in a can trick also. She's been good today laying on the couch with me because I'm sick with the flu. 

[VolFan]

Sounds like you have too much and too many people going on for a 6 month old hound. She should be crated when not at your side, and overnight.  Use the peroxide blend to clean the pee spots; she's just learning that she gets to go out when she pees in the house right now.