Super User rippin-lips Posted January 16, 2016 Super User Posted January 16, 2016 Release date of 1-29-16 3 Quote
John G Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 The T Wing? Yeah I think that sucks too! Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted January 16, 2016 Super User Posted January 16, 2016 ugh....they just won't give up on that stupid TWS Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 I'll admit I have a tatula and like it, but it's despite the t wing not because of it. 3 Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted January 16, 2016 Author Super User Posted January 16, 2016 43 minutes ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said: I'll admit I have a tatula and like it, but it's despite the t wing not because of it. Mike, I'm with you on that. The Tatula is a fantastic performer for $90 and even against more expensive reels. 1 Quote
Super User Raul Posted January 16, 2016 Super User Posted January 16, 2016 Well, it was evident that sooner or later Daiwa was going to ruin the Steez. 4 Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted January 16, 2016 Super User Posted January 16, 2016 43 minutes ago, rippin-lips said: Mike, I'm with you on that. The Tatula is a fantastic performer for $90 and even against more expensive reels. I almost bought one, but spent a little more on the Lew's LFS Tourney MB. I had a Daiwa since '83 that I finally just had to retire. That's 32 years on one reel using it very often. It was my favorite crankin' reel. Daiwa's quality is ridiculous. They even sent me parts for free three times, no questions, no postage. ABU doesn't even respond. 1 Quote
Super User Angry John Posted January 16, 2016 Super User Posted January 16, 2016 It to will pass. I will not be buying any tws reels. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 There's nothing inherently wrong with them, but they are not the innovation they're marketed as either. The grooving issue was a blip on the radar and a materials issue rather than a design one. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 16, 2016 Super User Posted January 16, 2016 I have 3 Tatula R's that have worked perfectly now for nearly 4 years. Every pooh poohed the R's as not worth the extra $ and thought the 8:1 ratio was a gimmic 3 years ago. Daiwa is dedicated to the at wing, that should be obvious and they wouldn't continue with the T wing design if it was negative to thier sales. Tom Quote
DirtyDeuceGoose Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 I'd really like to see more pictures of it. I'm honestly kind of intrigued by it. Not to say it will replace my current Steez reels by any means. Quote
Molay1292 Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 Outside the grooving issue that has been addressed, what is the negative associated with the TWS system? 1 Quote
5fishlimit Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 For me the main gripe is that the t-wing widens the frame of the reel. It's why I refuse to buy the zillion tws. From what I have heard is that Daiwa was able to narrow down the tws for the Steez, but until a side by side comparison can be made I will not be holding my breath in anticipation. 1 Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted January 16, 2016 Author Super User Posted January 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Molay1292 said: Outside the grooving issue that has been addressed, what is the negative associated with the TWS system? Nothing really negative at all. It's just marketed as this mind blowing design that gives you a large increase in casting distance over a normal line guide. Quote
Super User Montanaro Posted January 16, 2016 Super User Posted January 16, 2016 I dont like the widened reel frames. When i went from tatula to the new-to-me TDZ my mind was boggled. So much easier to hold tdz. 3 Quote
bootytrain Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 They lost the plot a few years ago when they bumped the prices of their reels to ridiculous levels. If this reel has 3D brakes it will actually justify a higher price. Im actually very interested in buying one now depending on a few factors. Quote
Molay1292 Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 2 hours ago, rippin-lips said: Nothing really negative at all. It's just marketed as this mind blowing design that gives you a large increase in casting distance over a normal line guide. I hear ya, it's kind of funny every year they say the reel is X% lighter than previous model, and casts Y% better. Seems like by now they should be weightless and cast to the moon. Reels have as many catch phrases as new cars. 3 Quote
Toeshots Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 8 minutes ago, Molay1292 said: I hear ya, it's kind of funny every year they say the reel is X% lighter than previous model, and casts Y% better. Seems like by now they should be weightless and cast to the moon. Reels have as many catch phrases as new cars. This is also the norm for the golf industry. If I gain 20 yards with the driver each year, why can't I hit it 600 yards? 2 Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted January 17, 2016 Super User Posted January 17, 2016 5 hours ago, WRB said: I have 3 Tatula R's that have worked perfectly now for nearly 4 years. Every pooh poohed the R's as not worth the extra $ and thought the 8:1 ratio was a gimmic 3 years ago. Daiwa is dedicated to the at wing, that should be obvious and they wouldn't continue with the T wing design if it was negative to thier sales. Tom I'm another that prefers the Type R over the standard just for its looks and the higher gear ratio. Makes it is worth the extra $30-$35 to me. Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted January 17, 2016 Super User Posted January 17, 2016 I was in Cabela's today and just had to seek one of these on the Tatula out just to see how it works. Quote
Hogsticker Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 Here we go again. Knocking a reel before anyone has even laid a finger on it. For starters I think from this one isolated picture this reel looks incredible. People, the consumer are the one's who blew this T wing thing way out of proportion. All of my T3 variants have SV spools in them and they are incredible casting machines. No denying that. Wasn't the idea behind the T Wing to decrease line angles so you can can achieve the same cast regardless where your line guide was when you disengage the reel? If people were expecting to gain 20 yards on a cast the fault and disappointment is there own imo. Daiwa isn't ruining anything imo. If you don't want a T Wing Steez there are plenty of other Steez options readily available. I for one am looking forward to several Daiwa new releases this year. Alphas Air, Zillion SV TW and this. Haters gonna hate. Yes, I'm a fan boy 9 Quote
DirtyDeuceGoose Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 Heck, it might not even be called "Steez", the official name hasn't been released. More to come 29 January. Quote
Super User webertime Posted January 17, 2016 Super User Posted January 17, 2016 Steez= Ferrari Steez TWS= Ferrari with a bumper sticker. I'm sure it will be a winner though. 7 Quote
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