Catch 22 Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Aside from all the other home security Only takes a few seconds to place or remove the tube. Quote
Catch 22 Posted January 12, 2016 Author Posted January 12, 2016 Aside from all the other home security which I indulge in,I became concerned about the rear garage door,which is far removed from my bedroom. Quick simple and cheap @$5.50 Only takes a few seconds to place or remove the tube. two 3/8" x 3" lag eyebolts 5' x 3/4" trade size electrical conduit, actual size=7/8" OD How do you secure your place Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted January 12, 2016 Global Moderator Posted January 12, 2016 Reinforced kick plates. Does the save thing as that bar without drilling 2 big holes in your wall. If a person has any idea how to kick a door in, most deadbolts aren't even going to slow them down. If you really want to go all out, you can get the reinforced door jam as well. I'm with A-Jay though. I have a dog that warns me as soon as someone pulls up in front of the house and enough firepower to keep a small army at bay long enough for backup to get there. Some criminals don't realize that the lock on the door isn't always to protect the occupants from the criminals... 4 Quote
quanjig Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 As a locksmith, I would never recommend that! 1 Quote
Super User bigbill Posted January 12, 2016 Super User Posted January 12, 2016 Big dogs. First alarm. Next alarm is BANG. 2 Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted January 12, 2016 Super User Posted January 12, 2016 1 hour ago, quanjig said: As a locksmith, I would never recommend that! Just curious, why not? Quote
spartyon8 Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 1 hour ago, HoosierHawgs said: Just curious, why not? A wild guess but...you unlock the door, now what? How are you going to step inside? Quote
quanjig Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 1 hour ago, HoosierHawgs said: Just curious, why not? Too many things to do to get out in a hurry. Think for a moment if that is the only means of egress from the house in an emergency, seconds count. Then think if you are a guest in the home and the lights are out. My job is to look at worst case scenario. 1 Quote
Super User buzzed bait Posted January 12, 2016 Super User Posted January 12, 2016 i'd probably look for a new neighborhood.... but a thought: if someone really did try to kick that thing in and say with enough force to bend that conduit, it will foul that thing in there so bad you'd have to cut it to open the door.... now $5 became $500. Quote
quanjig Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) I alway tell people "if someone wants to get in your house, they will!" What you as a homeowner want to do is make your home "look" more secure than your neighbor!! deadbolt locks are as much a physical deterrent as a visual deterrent! Most break-ins are of the smash and grab variety. A burgler is going to search out a door without a secondary lock or find a first story window that has easy access! Reinforced strikes that have screws that engage the frame of a door as well as bolts that extend a full 1" are about all that you can do. Exterior lighting and low shrubbery around doors are a plus. People that attempt break-ins know that quick entry is the key to success. If it takes more than a few second to gain entry, bigger opportunity to get caught! Edited January 12, 2016 by quanjig Burgers don't break-in to homes! 1 Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted January 12, 2016 Super User Posted January 12, 2016 24 minutes ago, buzzed bait said: i'd probably look for a new neighborhood.... but a thought: if someone really did try to kick that thing in and say with enough force to bend that conduit, it will foul that thing in there so bad you'd have to cut it to open the door.... now $5 became $500. unless you unscrew the eye bolt. Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted January 12, 2016 Super User Posted January 12, 2016 Just now, deaknh03 said: unless you unscrew the eye bolt. scrap that, they are the screw in kind not the kind where you screw a plate 1 Quote
Super User Jigfishn10 Posted January 12, 2016 Super User Posted January 12, 2016 Unless the eyebolts didn't get screwed into a stud? Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted January 12, 2016 Super User Posted January 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Jigfishn10 said: Unless the eyebolts didn't get screwed into a stud? Maybe they used those drywall anchors..that woyld work right? 2 Quote
Super User buzzed bait Posted January 12, 2016 Super User Posted January 12, 2016 11 minutes ago, deaknh03 said: Maybe they used those drywall anchors..that woyld work right? LOL, that's how you'd know they were a hipster.... Quote
Super User gardnerjigman Posted January 12, 2016 Super User Posted January 12, 2016 I went with the reinforced kick plate and jam when we remodeled our home. Quote
quanjig Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 I've never had a locking knob/lever on any residence I've lived in because they offer very little in terms of security and it's all to easy to walk out without keys and pull the door shut, locked. A good quality passage knob/lever with a grade 1 deadbolt lock with a reinforced strike is all you can do. By doing this, it forces you to A) use the deadbolt and B)you will always have the keys in your hand and not lock them inside!! Don't think that more locks means more security. The more holes and locks on the door inherently weakens the door and frame! Quote
Jtrout Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 My german sheperds will alert me when the neighbor shuts there car door if the wanna still come in and get past my dogs a shot gun will stop them lol Quote
Catch 22 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Posted January 13, 2016 Dogs are great=never liked poo pickin or vet bills. Liabilities accompany certain breeds.They need fed also. The door is metal,no panels to kick out.I replaced all hinge screws with 3" ones that extend into the stud frame,on through the jam.The lags are set 3" deep into the middle stud of 3 on each side. Had to use a 12" screw driver to set them.The dead bolt plate has 4" screws as does the strike plate.The door contacts the tube 4" from the eye.It is not going to bend. Nobody is coming through that door without raising considerable noise and spending lots of time.Thats the objective. The door is never used for entry.Plenty other ways to exit in a hurry. The hood is not that bad,but like virtually every town and community,we have our share of drug scum to protect against. In my life I have found a radio turned on at a medium level to be very effective at throwing doubt whether some one is home or not.Friends would tell me I heard the radio but you must have been asleep. I have a professional security system that proved to be valuable a few days ago. Not a break in but another story. Maybe this thread will enlighten some readers about things to do even if they don`t like my setup Thanks for all the replies,I`m done C22 2 Quote
Super User Jigfishn10 Posted January 13, 2016 Super User Posted January 13, 2016 20 hours ago, deaknh03 said: Maybe they used those drywall anchors..that woyld work right? Wall dogs...LOL Quote
Arobb2012 Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 On 1/12/2016 at 2:21 PM, quanjig said: I alway tell people "if someone wants to get in your house, they will" That's exactly what the police told me when my house was broken into 2 years ago. I'm not anti-gun, but a small arsenal of weapons will not do any good when the burglar breaks into your home when you're at work. Most burglars will do a stake out in a way to assess the ease of breaking into a home. 1 Quote
quanjig Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 Unfortunately it's all too true! I don't do much anymore in terms of residential work but am more than happy to give advice when asked. It's also very important to be aware of individuals that look out of place in your neighborhood. I have no problem asking strangers in my neighborhood if I can help them find someone or call the police to let them know someone suspicious is walking around. It doesn't help just myself and my home but the folks around me as well. Just puts a little seed in their head that "this place might not be where I want to break in, people are watching!" Quote
mrmacwvu1 Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 A little unrelated but just a memory. I can remember as a child we used to go on a week long vacation 500 miles away and never locked the door. We had a farm and my uncle or neighbors would attend to the cattle and walk in the house and call the hotel and give us updates. I remeber as a child many times coming up from the barn and one of the neighbors would be sitting in the kitchen drinking coffee while mom and dad were still asleep. I would always shoot the **** with them for a minute before I got a shower and woke up parents and got ready for school. It is amazing the times that we live in now. I never felt so violated as I did many years later when I was broken into. I had a detached garage with the door only five feet from the bedroom window where my wife and I slept. Needless to say when I woke up to go to work and found out that my tools had been stolen I was ticked. I called the cops and they basically did nothing. Since that day my security has never been in question. I would actually feel sorry for the peoples family that would try to break into my home. Dead men tell no lies. Quote
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