Feathered Treble Hooks help

[Felix77]

I tie jigs as a hobby over the wintertime.  I wanted to also begin tying my own feathered treble hooks.  I have seen what is online so I get a basic idea about how to make them.  Hackle for feathers and some flash (Mylar).  What I cannot find is the size of the thread one would use.  Can anyone suggest a thread size to use when making these?  Does it vary based on the size of the hook?  Small thread for #6 trebles vs. bigger thread for #2's for example.

Thanks in advance.

[Snakehead Whisperer]

I use 210 Denier for pretty much everything bass related (feathered trebles, hair jigs, etc.) I would not go any smaller than that if it were me. You could go heavier if you're tying big hooks, like 4/O or bigger. I use the 210 all the way down to size 6 hooks, and all the way up to 2/O. I don't really use any hooks outside of that range for bass though. 

[Felix77]

44 minutes ago, Snakehead Whisperer said:

I use 210 Denier for pretty much everything bass related (feathered trebles, hair jigs, etc.) I would not go any smaller than that if it were me. You could go heavier if you're tying big hooks, like 4/O or bigger. I use the 210 all the way down to size 6 hooks, and all the way up to 2/O. I don't really use any hooks outside of that range for bass though. 

Thanks ... that helps a ton

[Snakehead Whisperer]

7 hours ago, Felix77 said:

Thanks ... that helps a ton

You're welcome. Post some pics when you tie some. I'd love to see them.

[Bassboy98]

If you want to add some bulk to your trebles you can also add some buck tail and cut it shorter than the hackle. That will cause the hackle to stand out a little more. 

[Bassboy98]

Here is what some of mine look like. 

[BradGuenette]

Try using some maribou in with your feathers and flash. I use it for a little bulk when tying hooks for swimbaits and big topwaters.  

 

 

 

[smalljaw67]

I like Danville 210 denier flat waxed nylon thread for all my tying needs. If I'm tying a smaller hook like a size 8 treble or a size 6 jig hook, I'll go down to 140 denier which is also good. The reason I use flat waxed nylon instead of upholstery thread is two fold, the first is the waxed thread grips the material which makes it very hard to pull the material out. The second reason is it acts as a lubricant for the thread which allows you to get it a little tighter when you cinch it down and you don't suffer "friction breaks" which happens with non-waxed threads.

[CJ]

Looks like this one has been answered but I use 140 Ultra thread. I feel anything larger builds a lil too much for me.

[Ginosocalbass]

On January 19, 2016 at 1:44 PM, BradGuenette said:

Try using some maribou in with your feathers and flash. I use it for a little bulk when tying hooks for swimbaits and big topwaters.  

 

 

 

I was just going to mention this.  Marabou is fantastic on a popper style bait. 

[Maico1]

On January 11, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Felix77 said:

I tie jigs as a hobby over the wintertime.  I wanted to also begin tying my own feathered treble hooks.  I have seen what is online so I get a basic idea about how to make them.  Hackle for feathers and some flash (Mylar).  What I cannot find is the size of the thread one would use.  Can anyone suggest a thread size to use when making these?  Does it vary based on the size of the hook?  Small thread for #6 trebles vs. bigger thread for #2's for example.

Thanks in advance.

Goldstocks is a good local place to get what you need....

[Felix77]

Here is my very first attempt.  A bit sloppy and the feather seems a bit big but its a start.  ?

[Jigfishn10]

Ya know, for your first time ya did a darn good job!

I generally keep the tail sparse on topwater baits, especially dog walkers. Maybe 2 feathers between each treble hook with no more that a half dozen strands of flashabou underneath. I try a keep the length of the longest material about the same length of the hook shaft measured from the eye to the beginning of the hook bend. 

That is a general rule of thumb I go by, too much or too long of material can really impact the action of the lure.

I'll see if I got a pic of a spook Jr. and will post up to give you an idea.

Great job with them. Pretty soon you'll figure out that you don't have all thumbs...:)

[Snakehead Whisperer]

Not bad for your first go at it. 

When I started tying I was making small (size 16-22) nymphs. It took me several dozen before I got something that looked even remotely usable to me. 

I highly suggest checking out 'smalljaw' on youtube. Most of his videos are about tying bucktails/hair jigs, but the techniques are applicable to any type of tying. Here's one I found on feathered trebles.

Not sure if you have a vice, bobbin and whip finish; but you could find inexpensive tools new for less than $20 altogether if you search around. It'll make short work of tying. 

 

 

[Deleted account]

3 and only 3 hackles, 3 and only 3 mylar strands and really thin thread for me. I only use them on poppers. I find bulk defeats the purpose in this application. I do tie them from 1" to 2". sometimes it makes a difference, and you really cant trim them.

[Felix77]

Great video.  Definitely need to take a 2nd stab at this.  Have all my topwater to do this winter so I will post others as they improve.  Thanks for all the tips.

[Felix77]

I am still doing simple styles and colors however I think I got the hang of it.  Below are some videos I used to help me perfect my tying skills along with some new hooks I have done since I last posted.

How to start ...

https://youtu.be/l6HizyCnr8o?list=PL6giZjzGYAmjNzZHO29mnyAyqijmDF1Ng

How to tie ...

https://youtu.be/crXQ6mYYaB4?list=PL6giZjzGYAmjNzZHO29mnyAyqijmDF1Ng

How to finish ... 

https://youtu.be/kI0Hl-jRQd0?list=PL6giZjzGYAmjNzZHO29mnyAyqijmDF1Ng

 

[Oregon Native]

I like using kevlar....comes in several colors and it is flat out very strong.  Probably thicker than some like but I like to keep it simple.  Use it for jigs,spinnerbaits etc.