xDirty Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 I have a lews tournament pro that i have been dying to buy a new rod for. I went to dicks and tried out a few rods and i decided on the veritas 2.0 7ft but i was torn between the medium and medium heavy. The Medium heavy is more versatile but i tend to throw lighter baits like soft plastics like weighless senkos or yum dingers. i usually throw anything between 1/4oz and and half an ounce, i dont even own that many lures that are heavier than that. anything lighter than 1/4oz i usually throw on my spinning gear When i tried out the two , the medium just felt better, lighter and has more of a bend to it. i put the lew reel on it and tied a plug and cast in my backyard and it definitely felt right. I just couldn't help wondering if i made a mistake not getting the more versatile rod. The veritas didnt really feel like a regular medium, it feels a little stiffer and the medium heavy felt more on the heavy side. I also have a black max reel and MH lighting shock rod for frogging and maybe some deep crankbaits or heavy cover Also my friend has a Falcon Bucoo rod 7ft medium heavy that hes not using and will be giving to me soon, so that will be another medium heavy rod for heavy cover and some other applications. If i mostly throw soft plastics,occasional crankbaits and 3/8oz spinnerbaits, did i make the right choice with veritas medium action ? Quote
Super User Darren. Posted January 6, 2016 Super User Posted January 6, 2016 IMO, yes. I personally prefer M rods for a lot of my fishing, but it depends on who makes it. I like the BPS Carbonlites a lot, they load up well for what I throw, which is a lot of weightless soft plastics. Bottom line is that it felt better in your hands than the MH. That's what matters. Now after you fish it a bit, you'll know better if it is the right fit. Quote
Trace Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 I have the gen 1 veritas medium-fast and have used it for those type baits and have tossed a 3/4 oz trap on it and handled it fine. It's personal preference but I would say you made the Right choice Quote
Missourifishin Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 I think you made the right choice. My brother has a MH Veritas and it seems like a heavy to me. Quote
Fishinthefish Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 Bias opinion first, buying a veritas rod is never a good choice. Personal prference aside, you got a medium for a reel that is good with casting lightish lures, just remember worst case scenario you have another rod and reel purchase that you're happy with and one more you can eventually look forward to getting. Quote
Turkey sandwich Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 I don't understand the above post at all. ? as for the Veritas rods, I have a Med crankbait (slower action, or a "bendier" rod) Veritas 1.0 that I bought a few years back and though it's pretty under-powered compared to say, St Croix, it's a great rod for shallow running Crankbaits, jerkbaits, and lighter lipless cranks. I've actually grown to like it a lot for an inexpensive rod. Every manufacture has different power and action ratings. One company's medium is another company's medium heavy. One company's fast action is another company's extra fast action, etc. Quote
JustinU1X Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 I think so. I had a MH and it felt very stiff and not too sensitive. I think a M will be perfect for what you're using it for. Quote
xDirty Posted January 6, 2016 Author Posted January 6, 2016 Thank you so much guys, you have no idea how much i appreciate your input. Quote
Fishinthefish Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 2 hours ago, Turkey sandwich said: I don't understand the above post at all. ? as for the Veritas rods, I have a Med crankbait (slower action, or a "bendier" rod) Veritas 1.0 that I bought a few years back and though it's pretty under-powered compared to say, St Croix, it's a great rod for shallow running Crankbaits, jerkbaits, and lighter lipless cranks. I've actually grown to like it a lot for an inexpensive rod. Every manufacture has different power and action ratings. One company's medium is another company's medium heavy. One company's fast action is another company's extra fast action, etc. It means I loathe abu garcia rods even the steez. Quote
xDirty Posted January 6, 2016 Author Posted January 6, 2016 14 minutes ago, Fishinthefish said: It means I loathe abu garcia rods even the steez. I appreciate your input anyway. The disclosure and everything This verita just feels right in my hand in comparison to the limited variety i got to try. Quote
DaleGribble Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 Veritas rods feel heavier than what they are rated so it sounds like you got just what you wanted. Quote
GetJigginWithIt Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 What is multi purpose to one person is not multi purpose to another. You stated that you like to throw baits 1/4 to 3/8 so the medium action is multi purpose giving what you are fishing with. You the right choice for the baits you are using. Quote
collinfiske_RFC Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 I don't think you can go wrong with the new Veritas whatever power it may be. Quote
cottny27 Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 I think the M in the Veritas model is more versatile for sure. You fish light t-rigs like myself. I usually go with a 3/16th tungsten weight on most everything. The Veritas M is what I use with no issues. Also work well with cranks & spinnerbaits. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted January 6, 2016 Super User Posted January 6, 2016 11 hours ago, Fishinthefish said: It means I loathe abu garcia rods even the steez. I understood your first post, but this one confuses me because the only Steez I am familiar with belongs to the Daiwa brand. OP, Because of my experience with a couple Villains, I am loathe to buy more Abu rods. I do like the spinning model I have even though it doesn't handle the lighter weights I had hoped it would. Quote
Fishinthefish Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 You're right I must of not been paying attention to what I was posting. I didnt even notice I posted steez. Quote
Crankin4Bass Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 I have the 6'6" M Veritas 2.0 and love it. I also thought the MH was a little more towards a heavy. I use it for 1/4 jigs with a trailer. I bought the 6'6" because I fish from a kayak most of the time and I have long arms. Feels great with a Shimano Chronarch 50E. I think you made the right choice. Enjoy! Quote
Super User fishnkamp Posted January 8, 2016 Super User Posted January 8, 2016 You have purchased the correct rod action. Yes Abu Garcia Veritas 1 and 2 run on the heavier side in actions. Thier medium is closer to other's mh. That 7 ft medium is about 70 percent backbone and about 30 percent tip. This is a great rod for small to mid size crankbaits, it can handle some jerkbaits ( suspending minnow body baits) and I own two just for throwing rattle trap type baits for stripers. It actually is the most versatile rod in the Veritas line up. Do not miss understand me, I fish twelve different rods (9 are baitcasters) 3 of which are Veritas rods. I do not use them for plastics because I want the sensitivity I get with my 3 G Loomis rods, but they cost around $300 each. My Veritas handle moving baits mostly, like the traps and Reaction Innovations Skinny Dippers and Dippers ( plastic swim baits). You will find the Veritas tips give enough that the fish will have time to inhale the bait without you pulling the bait and hooks away too fast. This will help your hookup ratio on these baits.. For the money these rods really take a beating. Here on the Chesapeake Bay we fish for both bass and stripers, but will catch big blue and channel cats, so you better be ready. The biggest striper I landed on a Veritas was 25 inches (around 5 pounds) and the biggest cat was a blue cat that weighed 19 pounds. That was like hooking a freight train! By the way, my other Veritas is a 7 foot MH. Its sole purpose for me was frogging. I purchased that rod before they brought out a frog version. The worst thing I have seen with the Veritas rods is sometimes the guides are not installed perfectly, no big deal. If one gives you trouble just find yourself a rod repair guy and have him redo all of the guides. I have a friend that fishes a bunch of these for the same situations up here on the bay. He buys them and when needed he has a guy remove all of the guides, replace them with high end stuff aand custom wrap em. Go to BayBass.com and check out the pics they are works of art. Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted January 8, 2016 Super User Posted January 8, 2016 10 hours ago, fishnkamp said: You have purchased the correct rod action. Yes Abu Garcia Veritas 1 and 2 run on the heavier side in actions. Thier medium is closer to other's mh. That 7 ft medium is about 70 percent backbone and about 30 percent tip. This is a great rod for small to mid size crankbaits, it can handle some jerkbaits ( suspending minnow body baits) and I own two just for throwing rattle trap type baits for stripers. It actually is the most versatile rod in the Veritas line up. Do not miss understand me, I fish twelve different rods (9 are baitcasters) 3 of which are Veritas rods. I do not use them for plastics because I want the sensitivity I get with my 3 G Loomis rods, but they cost around $300 each. My Veritas handle moving baits mostly, like the traps and Reaction Innovations Skinny Dippers and Dippers ( plastic swim baits). You will find the Veritas tips give enough that the fish will have time to inhale the bait without you pulling the bait and hooks away too fast. This will help your hookup ratio on these baits.. For the money these rods really take a beating. Here on the Chesapeake Bay we fish for both bass and stripers, but will catch big blue and channel cats, so you better be ready. The biggest striper I landed on a Veritas was 25 inches (around 5 pounds) and the biggest cat was a blue cat that weighed 19 pounds. That was like hooking a freight train! By the way, my other Veritas is a 7 foot MH. Its sole purpose for me was frogging. I purchased that rod before they brought out a frog version. The worst thing I have seen with the Veritas rods is sometimes the guides are not installed perfectly, no big deal. If one gives you trouble just find yourself a rod repair guy and have him redo all of the guides. I have a friend that fishes a bunch of these for the same situations up here on the bay. He buys them and when needed he has a guy remove all of the guides, replace them with high end stuff aand custom wrap em. Go to BayBass.com and check out the pics they are works of art. I'm sorry to disagree with you but the medium Veritas would be fine for soft plastics, spinnerbaits, chatterbaits,buzzbaits, and swim jigs. There is no way I'd use any Veritas not called a Winch for reation baits with treble hooks like crankbaits, they are just too stiff. The winch series is what they made for fishing cranks, and if I was in a pinch and needed to throw a crank on a rod not made for it, then yes, in the Veritas series the medium would be the one. Quote
Super User DogBone_384 Posted January 8, 2016 Super User Posted January 8, 2016 Simply put, you answered your question yourself: "...definitely felt right." I own three Veritas, a 6'6" M/F (2-piece), 7' MF, and 6'10" MH/F. The 7' and 6'10" get the most use in my arsenal. I throw mostly soft plastics and Rapalas in the 1/4 to 3/8 oz. range with the 7' and find it loads up very well. My 6'10" tosses 1/2 oz spinner baits and jigs like a dream too. They both 'feel' right. Quote
Super User WIGuide Posted January 8, 2016 Super User Posted January 8, 2016 If it feels right to you then I doubt you could have went wrong! I fish soft plastics on a m/f as well. It's slightly stiffer than others since it's a St. Croix, so it sounds a lot like the rod you bought. Should work well. Quote
xDirty Posted January 9, 2016 Author Posted January 9, 2016 Thats really cool, which st. Croix do you have ? Quote
georgeyew Posted January 9, 2016 Posted January 9, 2016 The good thing about buying from Dicks is that you can always return it for the MH if you don't like it after you try it out on the water. Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted January 9, 2016 Super User Posted January 9, 2016 Depends on type of cover really.. I wouldn't second guess it much, unless your going to punch & or flip with it. Quote
Super User ChrisD46 Posted January 9, 2016 Super User Posted January 9, 2016 On Wednesday, January 06, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Missourifishin said: I think you made the right choice. My brother has a MH Veritas and it seems like a heavy to me. ^^This^^ ... While the 2.0 is slightly lighter within each action - they still tend to run closer to the next stiffer action than other similar rods . This is why I believe the 2.0 M is closer to a MH than it is to a M or ML . Quote
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