Out of my element

[Raider Nation Fisher]

13 hours ago, Mike L said:

You have somewhat of an advantage as you've already met the CEO and CFO.

I really dont care what the position is or the job description. If someone comes before me looking for a job, how they present themselves,  how knowledgeable they are about the position, can they answer every question intelligently without hesitation, have a clean work record and the requisite experience I hire them. The type of industry you're in doesn't matter. 

Your appearance will get you in the door so plan accordingly. But once you're in there, what matters most is what comes out of your mouth. 

I wish you the best of luck

 

Mike

 

 

Being able to somewhat converse with them in their mother tongue may help a little bit too. Thanks for the advice.

[Raider Nation Fisher]

14 hours ago, slonezp said:

To be totally honest I was asked to stay after and then scolded by this woman.

Apparently I ticked her off a year ago when I was hired and she hasn't forgot. Not sure what I did specifically but I p'od all the HR training crew. Only one I remember ticking off was the girl who's in charge of the benefits. I told her she'd be better off financially if, rather than spending $150 a month on meds, she took her sick cat to the woods and fed it to the coyotes, and then pick up a healthy cat from the pound. She hates me to this day...but I digress  . We had a meeting on customer service 2 weeks ago and empathy and sympathy last week. The meeting was split into 2 groups of tradesmen. She does this intentionally to keep me and another guy, who I will refer to as T to keep his anonymity, apart because we both feed into each other and are not afraid to say what's on our minds. Anyway, the other group went first. I get back from lunch and the sparky(team lead) tells me "Don't get kicked out of the meeting. T already ticked her off. T tells me "Tell her she wasn't very empathetic the way she treated me" I walk into the meeting, it hasn't started yet. I say to the trainer "I was told not to get kicked out so I will do my best not to" and I sat down. Now, normally when I walk into meetings that she holds she warns me to keep my mouth shut before I even sit down. In fact, the customer service meeting 2 weeks ago when I walked in, she asked how my shoulder was doing and held up her index and middle fingers and said she would dig them into my wound if I got out of line. Back to the meeting in question. I sit down and raise my hand and ask to stand up because it is more comfortable for my shoulder. She says ok. I stood up and said "By the way, T said you weren't very empathetic towards him during his meeting, I hope we don't have that same problem"  She gives me the evil eye and begins the training session. A bit later I mad a quick sarcastic comment about the plumber. I then tried to engage in conversation about the topic at hand. and was asked to stop interrupting. The meeting was over and she dismissed everyone except me.

"Do you do this to me on purpose?" 

"Nope" (What I wanted to say was "Don't feel special, I treat everyone like this")

"Why do you always interrupt my classes?"

"I apologize for the remark about the plumber because that interrupted the class. I'm not apologizing for anything else"

By now, she had smoke coming out of her ears and was grinding her teeth. Her next class was walking in the door and she said "If you have a problem with me we need to handle this one on one" I said "I don't have a problem with anyone" and I walked out.     

In my defense, I treat everyone equally. Some just more equally than others. I get along with everybody, just not everybody gets along with me. In fact, the girl who accused me of being mean, some months ago, gave me a hand written Christmas card saying what a help I have been to her and that she missed me when I was out for surgery, and I've become a good work friend.

I don't show up to work to make friends. I show up to work. Is that such a bad thing?   

  

I could care less about making friends with those I work with as well. I hang out with my wife after work. I really have no desire to go to "work" functions and what not in my free time. I do my job as best I can, and when I leave, work is an after thought. It's taken me a LONG time to get into that mindset, and still I have difficulty with that sometimes. I honestly don't let my job define who I am anymore. That took working with a bunch of people who ONLY let their job define them. To a almost fanatical level.

I would sat I can't believe you said for that lady to feed her cat to the coyotes. However, that sounds almost word for word what I would have said.

[Jigfishn10]

Just to add 1 more thing Raider.

Jumping from a construction site to an end user facility is a bigger adjustment than you think. I jump from a field Superintendent to the office as a Project Manager/Estimator on a regular basis and it still takes me time to "settle in". Instead of starting at 5:30 and out at 2-2:30, my day starts 2 hours later and ends at 5:00 pm. I've never gotten used to the "structured" climate of an office. The field has a totally different structure, but you do enjoy more freedom out there. You will be surrounded by peeps who are not building constructors so the conversations are a lot different as well.

Just wanted you to carefully consider this move. It sounds like less wear and tear on the body and overall would be better for your health in the long run. I'll be 50 this summer and have been experiencing problems in my knee. Doc says a little old age and more wear and tear from the job. I've been really taking serious steps these past few years of not so much trying to beat mother nature, but trying to keep up. Being young and in construction was a lot more fun than being older and seeing what it does to your body. Just be prepared for a change in work life style.

Consider the position wisely.

John

[Crappiebasser]

As long as they don't research your online presence and read your BR posts you'll be fine. Maybe get in the back of the truck and have the old lady drive you through a car wash the day before.

 

Seriously though, good luck on the interview. 

[deaknh03]

3 hours ago, Crappiebasser said:

As long as they don't research your online presence and read your BR posts you'll be fine. Maybe get in the back of the truck and have the old lady drive you through a car wash the day before.

 

Seriously though, good luck on the interview. 

He will need to walk thru the carwash..to make sure they get the undercarriage.

[fishinfiend]

lol awesome 

[Raider Nation Fisher]

On 12/31/2015 at 9:21 AM, Jigfishn10 said:

Just to add 1 more thing Raider.

Jumping from a construction site to an end user facility is a bigger adjustment than you think. I jump from a field Superintendent to the office as a Project Manager/Estimator on a regular basis and it still takes me time to "settle in". Instead of starting at 5:30 and out at 2-2:30, my day starts 2 hours later and ends at 5:00 pm. I've never gotten used to the "structured" climate of an office. The field has a totally different structure, but you do enjoy more freedom out there. You will be surrounded by peeps who are not building constructors so the conversations are a lot different as well.

Just wanted you to carefully consider this move. It sounds like less wear and tear on the body and overall would be better for your health in the long run. I'll be 50 this summer and have been experiencing problems in my knee. Doc says a little old age and more wear and tear from the job. I've been really taking serious steps these past few years of not so much trying to beat mother nature, but trying to keep up. Being young and in construction was a lot more fun than being older and seeing what it does to your body. Just be prepared for a change in work life style.

Consider the position wisely.

John

Get off at 2 or 230!?! Heck we start at 6 and dont get off work until 530 or 6. That's been that way for the last 6 or 7 years. 

I am giving tons of thought. The benefit package is absolutely amazing that they are offering. As is the pay. However, my heart truly lies with construction work. I've honestly wanted to be a industrial or heavy commercial construction worker since I was a child. I love building stuff and working with my hands. Doing ironwork and conduit running are two of my favorite things. 

However, I also really enjoy money and expensive stuff. I'm quite fond of luxury vehicles, boats, bikes, champagne, cognac, and cigars. It would give me more time to focus on the bike business a buddy and I are talking about starting. It would give me more time with family, i think. Yet it still kind of goes against my stance on stuff, my belief system if you will. I enjoy being able to be myself and decorate myself however I choose to. It's very conflicting to me right now. 

Maybe the quote from SLC Punk describes it. "Remember son, I didn't sell out. I bought in."

[roadwarrior]

8 hours ago, Raider Nation Fisher said:

I am giving tons of thought.

Really?

"As for being broke. I have worked sporadically the last 2 months. I got married and have worked 4 of the last 9 weeks. I have wiped out all three savings accounts. I am 2 months behind on all my bills. I need to make over 4000 dollars in the next month just to get everything caught back up so that it will only be 10 to 20 days behind."

Not much to think about is there?

 

[Raider Nation Fisher]

1 hour ago, roadwarrior said:

Really?

"As for being broke. I have worked sporadically the last 2 months. I got married and have worked 4 of the last 9 weeks. I have wiped out all three savings accounts. I am 2 months behind on all my bills. I need to make over 4000 dollars in the next month just to get everything caught back up so that it will only be 10 to 20 days behind."

Not much to think about is there?

 

That's what's pulling me towards it so much. I really need the stability and the money. It feels like when I just traded in my truck. I don't particularly want to do it. However, it feels like I have to do it. The two friends that got my foot in the door here. Aren't steering me wrong. I know that too. 

[Redlinerobert]

Sounds like a good stable job.  If it's important to you make a good impression.   Slacks and a collared shirt are a good idea.  Bring a resume with you as well, in a nice folder.  Good luck amigo.

Oh and no black nail polish.

[deaknh03]

8 hours ago, Redlinerobert said:

Sounds like a good stable job.  If it's important to you make a good impression.   Slacks and a collared shirt are a good idea.  Bring a resume with you as well, in a nice folder.  Good luck amigo.

Oh and no black nail polish.

But its tattooed on..