Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted December 25, 2015 Super User Posted December 25, 2015 Maybe even a 75 !!
Super User MarkH024 Posted December 25, 2015 Super User Posted December 25, 2015 7 hours ago, mrpao said: I also wonder if a citica 70 is coming ? No that won't happen. 1
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 26, 2015 Global Moderator Posted December 26, 2015 Like the high speed option in the smaller reel. Don't like that it cost $20 more for????? I guess it's harder to build a smaller reel or uses more parts?
Super User Goose52 Posted December 26, 2015 Super User Posted December 26, 2015 6 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said: Like the high speed option in the smaller reel. Don't like that it cost $20 more for????? I guess it's harder to build a smaller reel or uses more parts? OR, Shimano thinks that there will be a smaller market for the 70 size as compared to the 200 size and thus feels the need to increase the price a bit to amortize the tooling/startup/support costs over a smaller production quantity (just as it did with the CU50E). OR, Shimano knows that it will be a popular model with a small number of anglers and charges more...because it can... Regardless, perhaps down the road there will be some deals to be had. At the end of the day, businesses are in business to make money... 3
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted December 26, 2015 Super User Posted December 26, 2015 9 minutes ago, Goose52 said: OR, Shimano thinks that there will be a smaller market for the 70 size as compared to the 200 size and thus feels the need to increase the price a bit to amortize the tooling/startup/support costs over a smaller production quantity (just as it did with the CU50E). OR, Shimano knows that it will be a popular model with a small number of anglers and charges more...because it can... Regardless, perhaps down the road there will be some deals to be had. At the end of the day, businesses are in business to make money... ... or Shimano is living in the same inflationary world the rest of us live in. oe 1
bootytrain Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 8 hours ago, OkobojiEagle said: ... or Shimano is living in the same inflationary world the rest of us live in. oe What are you talking about? $199 is the same price as the previous Curado 50e and Chronarch 50e. 3
TorqueConverter Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Daiwa and Korean OEM guy here. Shimano noob. What exactly is this shallow spool in Daiwa terminology? A 1016 Daiwa type spool? What's the deal here? Looks like a Core 50 MG spool in a Curado. Whats the excitement? Is a 50 MG spool in a Curado I this exciting to the Shimano crowd?
Super User iabass8 Posted December 27, 2015 Super User Posted December 27, 2015 27 minutes ago, TorqueConverter said: Daiwa and Korean OEM guy here. Shimano noob. What exactly is this shallow spool in Daiwa terminology? A 1016 Daiwa type spool? What's the deal here? Looks like a Core 50 MG spool in a Curado. Whats the excitement? Is a 50 MG spool in a Curado I this exciting to the Shimano crowd? The 1016 is a significantly deeper spool than the smaller versions (50, 70) of the Curado/Chronarch in terms of how much line it holds. The 1016 is also a much more controlled spool due to it's breaking. The 50 size shimanos have a strong following due to their much smaller profile than their counterpart (200+ series) and capability of throwing lighter baits better than a 200 but still very capable of throwing upper end weights well. I felt the 50 size reels responded better to tuning as well. In the past, these were only offered in a single 6:4 gear ratio and you had to drop core gears into them to get the higher IPT. The excitement surrounding these is that the new curado is finally being offered again in the very popular smaller frame size that we haven't seen since the chronarch 50(hence the 70), X ship on a smaller reel, and 2 different gear ratios; with the higher end being something like 8:1 or 8:3. It also has Shimanos new(?) hagane stamp. I haven't read enough about it to give a through explanation of what Hagane is aside from that it has to do /w gearing. 2
k3bass Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Hagane is nothing more than a sales gimmick that means metal. The sustain fg used to say paladin gearing on the shimano site, now the same reel says hagane gearing and body. Hahaha. I've seen people rave about the new stradic because it has this new special hagane body material, lol its just aluminum! What a joke.
bootytrain Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 15 minutes ago, k3bass said: Hagane is nothing more than a sales gimmick that means metal. The sustain fg used to say paladin gearing on the shimano site, now the same reel says hagane gearing and body. Hahaha. I've seen people rave about the new stradic because it has this new special hagane body material, lol its just aluminum! What a joke. Every company has marketing terminology including your silly Daiwas.. heres some info on the Hagane Concept.. why don't you educate yourself http://fishing.shimano.co.jp/product/technology/hagane2/index_en.html 7
Super User roadwarrior Posted December 27, 2015 Super User Posted December 27, 2015 3 hours ago, bootytrain said: Every company has marketing terminology including your silly Daiwas.. heres some info on the Hagane Concept.. why don't you educate yourself http://fishing.shimano.co.jp/product/technology/hagane2/index_en.html Very interesting read
jwhiteney Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Just yesterday I bought myself a second curado i. Would i be better off trying to return and wait for this one? Or is really just preference?
Super User fishballer06 Posted December 27, 2015 Super User Posted December 27, 2015 This should mean they're discontinuing the Chronarch 50e series.
mrpao Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 They have already discontinued the chronarch 50e . Most places have just slowly sold them out. Some places had them on clearance sale. They are not even on Tackle warehouse anymore 1
k3bass Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 9 hours ago, bootytrain said: Every company has marketing terminology including your silly Daiwas.. heres some info on the Hagane Concept.. why don't you educate yourself http://fishing.shimano.co.jp/product/technology/hagane2/index_en.html Seriously? Educate myself? My silly daiwas? Go to tackle tour and read bantam 1's answer when he was asked what hagane means. Can you explain how reels that were produced years ago like the sustain fg suddenly have this new hagane technology when nothing about the reel has changed???? It's nothing more than a sales gimmick. You can't seriously be naive enough to believe any of that shimano ad you posted can you?
bass raider Posted December 27, 2015 Author Posted December 27, 2015 14 minutes ago, k3bass said: Seriously? Educate myself? My silly daiwas? Go to tackle tour and read bantam 1's answer when he was asked what hagane means. Can you explain how reels that were produced years ago like the sustain fg suddenly have this new hagane technology when nothing about the reel has changed???? It's nothing more than a sales gimmick. You can't seriously be naive enough to believe any of that shimano ad you posted can you? Whether it's new or not it still beats the junk lews and Abu put out. ? 1
Jon G Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Let's try not to get this post locked down....... 1
bass raider Posted December 27, 2015 Author Posted December 27, 2015 10 hours ago, bootytrain said: Every company has marketing terminology including your silly Daiwas.. heres some info on the Hagane Concept.. why don't you educate yourself http://fishing.shimano.co.jp/product/technology/hagane2/index_en.html Great read!!
k3bass Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 2 minutes ago, bass raider said: Whether it's new or not it still beats the junk lews and Abu put out. ? Who said anything about lews or abu? I'm just trying to point out that shimanos "hagane" technology or "concept" is nothing more than a sales catch phrase. I'm interested in the truth not some childish my reels are better than yours game. Never said shimano was junk.
bootytrain Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 50 minutes ago, k3bass said: Seriously? Educate myself? My silly daiwas? Go to tackle tour and read bantam 1's answer when he was asked what hagane means. Can you explain how reels that were produced years ago like the sustain fg suddenly have this new hagane technology when nothing about the reel has changed???? It's nothing more than a sales gimmick. You can't seriously be naive enough to believe any of that shimano ad you posted can you? I'm not saying its not marketing terminology, I'm saying everybody has just as much marketing terminology including your silly Daiwas, which by the way is probably has the most gimmicky "tech" out of all the reel companies lol. Apparently though you will only call Shimano out for using marketing terms? I'm very familiar with Tackletour as I'm much more active there. 2
Super User iabass8 Posted December 27, 2015 Super User Posted December 27, 2015 19 minutes ago, k3bass said: I'm just trying to point out that shimanos "hagane" technology or "concept" is nothing more than a sales catch phrase. I'm interested in the truth not some childish my reels are better than yours game. Never said shimano was junk. Every company has their own sales catch phrase. You aren't pointing out something that every other company hasn't done themselves in the past or won't continue to do. It's part of sales. You started this whole stupid argument with how your initial comments came off. malicious or not. 1
k3bass Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 7 minutes ago, bootytrain said: I'm not saying its not marketing terminology, I'm saying everybody has just as much marketing terminology including your silly Daiwas, which by the way is probably has the most gimmicky "tech" out of all the reel companies lol. I'm very familiar with Tackletour as I'm much more active there. You must be mistaking me with someone else when you say my silly daiwas. I don't use daiwa reels exclusively or say they are better. And why are they silly? I hate to break it to you but no other reel manufacturer even comes close to shimano when it comes to gimmicky sales catch phrases. But yes daiwa would come in second place in that category. I'd still like someone to answer my question as to how older shimano reels suddenly have this new hagane technology.
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted December 27, 2015 Super User Posted December 27, 2015 On 12/15/2015 at 1:07 PM, QUAKEnSHAKE said: What gets me is this was suppose to be fanboys for Shimano commenting. The TRUE FANBOYS shine through with their raging jealousy of yet once again Shimano getting all the attention. It eats at their craw that Shimano is always the brand other brands are compared to and Shimano most times is the brand that shines on top. Any commenters that posted thats not a Shimano fanboy by default is off-topic and shouldnt have replied. But see, as a TRUE FANBOY would do, they had to try to take down the one on TOP, to no avail. guess highlighted text applies 1
Recommended Posts