DD22

[JustinU1X]

Hey guys,

I plan on really focusing on cranking next season. I did a little research and purchased some DD22 in colors to cover all my bases. So far I have Chili Bowl, SX Shad, Chartreuse/Blue, Natural Shad. I think that covers shad/natural imitation, crawfish, and bright colors. I also want to purchase some DD14s and Deep Little Ns.

My Questions:

Q1 - A few colors I noticed that people liked were Black Splat and Lavender Shad. What water clarity and conditions would you fish these colors in?

Q2 - Also, where I fish (Wisconsin) there's a lot of bluegill, what color would you guys recommend for a bluegill imitation? At TW they have a sunfish color that looks like it would work any others you recommend? 

Q3 - When would you choose a Deep Little N vs DD14?

Any other sleeper colors you can suggest are appreciated too!

 

Thanks!

[Cgolf]

I haven't fished the DD 22 much, but have used the deep little N sunfish pattern successfully in clear water and the bull bream in stained water. I did have luck with the chartreuse sexy Shad dd22 cranking clear water. I have also found that fire tiger type patterns seem to work well in WI waters regardless of water clarity, must give a enough of an impression of gills or perch to draw in the bass. 

[Catt]

I've never been one to buy into this premise of using certain colors under certain water clarifies or sky conditions.

To many exceptions to that rule to even slightly consider it to be valid!

[fishballer06]

Jelly bean is a great bluegill color. 

[scaleface]

The deeper a crankbait dives the less important color is . Browns turn green , reds turn black...

[Catt]

28 minutes ago, scaleface said:

The deeper a crankbait dives the less important color is . Browns turn green , reds turn black...

As perceived by human eyes & interpreted by a human mind!

There will be days when color matters & there will be days when color doesn't matter!

[scaleface]

35 minutes ago, Catt said:

As perceived by human eyes & interpreted by a human mind!

There will be days when color matters & there will be days when color doesn't matter!

Light waves get blocked . There comes a point where that color no longer exist no matter what eyes are used . 

[Catt]

32 minutes ago, scaleface said:

Light waves get blocked . There comes a point where that color no longer exist no matter what eyes are used . 

And can prove this because you've seen this through a bass's eyes?

Empirical evidence: based on, concerned with, or verifiable by observation or experience rather than theory or pure logic!

Theory & logic is not science despite what y'all have been taught in school

[scaleface]

 A red crankbait absorbs all light except red , which makes it appear red . If red light is filtered out before it reaches the lure then it will no longer appear red  red . It will appear black , which is not bad . A white crankbait with red bars would be realistic looking at that depth . 

[scaleface]

I will go with science on this subject and it is perfectly logical .

 

http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/facts/red-color.html

 

[scaleface]

Tilapia would be a good color for a DD22. It is light with dark bars .

[papajoe222]

Question: If light can only penetrate to a certain depth and color perception is indescernable pass that point, why are there fish that live hundreds of feet below the surface so vibrantly colored?  I guess the other fish can't see them 

[scaleface]

3 minutes ago, papajoe222 said:

Question: If light can only penetrate to a certain depth and color perception is indescernable pass that point, why are there fish that live hundreds of feet below the surface so vibrantly colored?  I guess the other fish can't see them 

http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/facts/red-color.html

[Catt]

2 minutes ago, scaleface said:

http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/facts/red-color.html

Again as seen through human eyes & a human's brain!

[JustinU1X]

5 minutes ago, scaleface said:

http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/facts/red-color.h

One reason I asked is because I was also looking at Deep Little N's. They get down to about 10-12ft and I thought the color would be more of a factor. For the DD22s I think I'm going to stick with the basic colors I already             purchased.

 

[scaleface]

6 minutes ago, Catt said:

Again as seen through human eyes & a human's brain!

Stop the presses . Rewrite the science journals . Bass can see what is not there .

[JustinU1X]

You guys mind if I get some responses before my post gets locked down? lol

 

[Catt]

13 minutes ago, scaleface said:

Stop the presses . Rewrite the science journals . Bass can see what is not there .

Where in your link does it say as seen through a bass's eyes?

As for colors for DD22s, They come in dozens of colors cause they all work!

[scaleface]

3 hours ago, Catt said:

Where in your link does it say as seen through a bass's eyes?

As for colors for DD22s, They come in dozens of colors cause they all work!

It makes no difference what animals eyes . If a wave length is filtered out then that color will not reach the eye of whatever animal . This is not difficult to understand . If a person doesnt understand it , that ;person is not trying very hard .A bass may see into the ultraviolets and infrareds , but if those wavelegths are filtered out they will not reach a basses eyes . The light " has "  to reach the eye to be seen .

[wnspain]

4 hours ago, Catt said:

As for colors for DD22s, They come in dozens of colors cause they all work!

and they work because of variable factors not necessarily attributable to color, which most are manufactured to catch the human eye 

[K_Mac]

I do not want to argue about how bass see, or don't see color. What I do know is that based on empirical evidence sometimes color makes  a difference. I also know that based on empirical evidence sometimes it doesn't.  With that said, I am not one that carries a dozen colors of every bait. A few variations of shad, bluegill, and crawfish are what I carry in crankbaits. Works for me.

[Molay1292]

6 hours ago, Catt said:

And can prove this because you've seen this through a bass's eyes?

Empirical evidence: based on, concerned with, or verifiable by observation or experience rather than theory or pure logic!

Theory & logic is not science despite what y'all have been taught in school

So prove him wrong using science, otherwise your argument is as much theory as you claim his to be.

 

[nascar2428]

If you match the forage, the depth doesn't matter. Pick forage colors and you should be fine in my opinion. 

[Cgolf]

The reason I try to match the hatch on deep divers is that the baitfish will look the same as the bait at that depth, it may not be the same color as on the surface though, but they should have morphed into the same color at depth  

The reason I like fire tiger so much is it has colors that can be found in many northern baitfish and the vertical bars are also present in said baitfish. With quicker moving cranks you just have to get the perceived color right. 

Thankfully this isn't a walleye site, go look at the reef runner deep divers and see how color matters when trolling for walleye. 

[Catt]

32 minutes ago, Molay1292 said:

So prove him wrong using science, otherwise your argument is as much theory as you claim his to be.

 

I just did!

The supplied link is talking about humans!

It's called anthropomorphism, attribution of human motivation, characteristics or behavior to inanimate objects, animals, or natural phenomena.