Super User HoosierHawgs Posted December 27, 2015 Super User Posted December 27, 2015 On 12/26/2015 at 1:12 AM, tomustang said: Ren couldve been just as bad if he killed his mother instead of the franchise favorite Him killing Han makes sense he has to cement himself as evil. He was very self doubting throughout the movie, and unsure of himself. Quote
atcoha Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 late to the party....but made it. I liked the movie, as an older, 1st gen star wars guy, it did seem a little "disney'ed" up in parts. I'm sure they will follow up with more character dev. in the next movie, just like the original trilogy. I hope anyway. FN seemed a little contrived...?( his story seemed a little far fetched) But did a good job. The new girl, wow, she was terrific. The ending with her standing there and the music...I hated it to end. She sure showed her ninja/force skillz. Can't wait for the next movies. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted December 28, 2015 Super User Posted December 28, 2015 3 hours ago, HoosierHawgs said: Him killing Han makes sense he has to cement himself as evil. He was very self doubting throughout the movie, and unsure of himself. There's two reasons why the movie got so much flack, #1 The story line felt a little too copied from A New Hope (4) and #2 They killed Han. He could've killed either parent but they chose the wrong one. They better have something special planned for Leia in 8+9 because being a general of a little squad of a resistance is bad enough If anything they should've killed Han off in 9, he is the top hero of the franchise just like vader was the top villian. Quote
atcoha Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 15 minutes ago, tomustang said: There's two reasons why the movie got so much flack, #1 The story line felt a little too copied from A New Hope (4) and #2 They killed Han. He could've killed either parent but they chose the wrong one. They better have something special planned for Leia in 8+9 because being a general of a little squad of a resistance is bad enough If anything they should've killed Han off in 9, he is the top hero of the franchise just like vader was the top villian. Did you forget about a guy named Luke? Quote
Super User tomustang Posted December 28, 2015 Super User Posted December 28, 2015 2 hours ago, atcoha said: Did you forget about a guy named Luke? It doesn't matter what was written in the script, Han is everyone's favorite. Quote
atcoha Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 10 hours ago, tomustang said: It doesn't matter what was written in the script, Han is everyone's favorite. oh, guess I missed that. Sounds like you have a thing for han, so I will leave you guys to it. 1 Quote
Super User tomustang Posted December 28, 2015 Super User Posted December 28, 2015 2 hours ago, atcoha said: oh, guess I missed that. Sounds like you have a thing for han, so I will leave you guys to it. Nice childish reply.. Quote
Super User Redlinerobert Posted December 28, 2015 Super User Posted December 28, 2015 Having seen all of the movies in the theater (first one at the drive in back in '77) I disagree completely with Han being 'the most liked'. That falls on Luke. Looking forward to the next movie! Quote
5fishlimit Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 I think the reason they killed Han has a lot more to do with the fact that Harrison Ford is 70+ years old, and he argued with George Lucas to kill off the character in The Empire Strikes Back. This is why the character was frozen in carbonite. Nobody knew for sure if Harrison Ford would come back to play the part. I really think he agreed to do this new movie for the specific reason of finally giving the character of Han Solo a proper send off. Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted December 28, 2015 Super User Posted December 28, 2015 3 hours ago, Redlinerobert said: Having seen all of the movies in the theater (first one at the drive in back in '77) I disagree completely with Han being 'the most liked'. That falls on Luke. Looking forward to the next movie! I saw the first one at a drive in as well..we're cosmically connected.. Quote
Super User Redlinerobert Posted December 28, 2015 Super User Posted December 28, 2015 8 minutes ago, deaknh03 said: I saw the first one at a drive in as well..we're cosmically connected.. Deaknh03......I....am....your father.... 2 Quote
dave Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Is this like the original one with Capt Kirk and Mr Spock? Or, Capt Picard and Number One? I like both... Oh wait...Star Wars I should probably see it. That way when Family Guy does the take off, I'll be able to follow better. Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted December 28, 2015 Super User Posted December 28, 2015 2 hours ago, dave said: Is this like the original one with Capt Kirk and Mr Spock? Or, Capt Picard and Number One? I like both... Oh wait...Star Wars I should probably see it. That way when Family Guy does the take off, I'll be able to follow better. Quote
hoosierbass07 Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 Oh my, my life has always revolved around Star Wars! The last time I've seen a movie twice was Return of the Jedi when it came out in the 1980s. I went to see this new Star Wars film two times too. They are saying it's a religion to some and yep, it is. It ticks me off when I ask people I work with if they are Star Wars fans and they say "not really." How can anyone not be a fan? No, this film was not perfect but I don't care, I consider it awesome! Luke at the end looked bad to the bone! 1 Quote
Super User tomustang Posted December 31, 2015 Super User Posted December 31, 2015 On 12/28/2015 at 3:45 PM, Redlinerobert said: Deaknh03......I....am....your father.... he's waiting for your child support checks Quote
Super User tomustang Posted December 31, 2015 Super User Posted December 31, 2015 But han shot first.. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted December 31, 2015 Super User Posted December 31, 2015 On 12/28/2015 at 0:33 PM, Redlinerobert said: Having seen all of the movies in the theater (first one at the drive in back in '77) I disagree completely with Han being 'the most liked'. That falls on Luke. Looking forward to the next movie! Without luke and daddy there isn't a show, but who doesn't like the pirate with a hot rod? Quote
Super User Redlinerobert Posted December 31, 2015 Super User Posted December 31, 2015 1 hour ago, tomustang said: he's waiting for your child support checks He's too old. Snooze you lose! Quote
Super User tomustang Posted December 31, 2015 Super User Posted December 31, 2015 On 12/28/2015 at 2:45 PM, 5fishlimit said: I think the reason they killed Han has a lot more to do with the fact that Harrison Ford is 70+ years old, and he argued with George Lucas to kill off the character in The Empire Strikes Back. This is why the character was frozen in carbonite. Nobody knew for sure if Harrison Ford would come back to play the part. I really think he agreed to do this new movie for the specific reason of finally giving the character of Han Solo a proper send off. JJ said he needed to do something bold to make Kylo so villainous this time around. It is interesting that Ford did snap one day and got tired of all the star wars conversations and told everyone to shove it when it came to anything related to it, but did come back for #7 Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted December 31, 2015 Super User Posted December 31, 2015 8 hours ago, tomustang said: JJ said he needed to do something bold to make Kylo so villainous this time around. It is interesting that Ford did snap one day and got tired of all the star wars conversations and told everyone to shove it when it came to anything related to it, but did come back for #7 Yeah. Crylo ( ) Ren needed to find himself and his motives. They need to delve into his motives for turning to the dark side in the next movie. It should also start to show that it takes a physical toll on him just like with every other sith. 1 Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted December 31, 2015 Super User Posted December 31, 2015 Jar Jar? Meesa thinka you looka pretty evil now. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted December 31, 2015 Super User Posted December 31, 2015 Looks like George Lucas isn't happy according to his recent interview he called Disney white slavers and they didnt go into the direction he wanted them too. He shouldn't have sold it to them then... 1 Quote
FloridaFishinFool Posted January 1, 2016 Posted January 1, 2016 Yep! George Lucas stepped into a hornets nest with his latest STUPID comments! He has since issued an apology and a retraction for what all he said in that Charlie Rose interview! You know, when you sell all your rights to your films and film production company for $4 billion dollars, of course whoever buys it wants their money back and will create new product to sell like this new film which has already earned more than $1 billion dollars and counting. George Lucas is just pyssed off because Disney does not want him involved in making their new product! George said he was a storyteller and that his Stars Wars films were all part of a continuing story, and that the people he sold his rights to are a bunch of white slavers using his product for commercial gain rather than storytelling! George Lucas said he had begun writing an all new story for another Star Wars film when Disney came calling with $4 billion dollars. George Lucas said Disney told him they had no interest in his new story and that they would do things their way and George said he was OK with this at the time of the sale, but is now whining and complaining about it. If this newest film was written by George Lucas with already $4 billion in his bank account, how much of this newest film's earning would George have laid claim to? Disney was SMART to not use his storyline for their new film. They want all the money, not to keep forking it over to George Lucas. Disney can do with it as they please now and George Lucas should not have one word to say about it. Go count your $4 billion you took to sell ALL your rights to Star Wars! But hey, this is not the only controversy brewing over this new film. That police hater film maker Tarantino went on the Howard Stern radio show blasting the movie theaters for bowing to Disney's powers of persuasion to put Stars Wars on the big screen as a priority over Tarantino's new violent western film which no one really wants to pay to see it would seem. In 3 days, December 25th through the 27th Stars Wars raked in $150 million dollars. Police hater Tarantino's graphic violence only brought in $4 million in the same 3 day span. If any of us owned a movie theater it makes perfect business sense to go with what sells. Apparently Tarantino does not get that. Oh and check out the last line of this article text below: Quentin Tarantino Blasts Disney On Howard Stern Show As ‘Force Awakens’ Pushes ‘The Hateful Eight’ Out Of Cinerama DomeQuentin Tarantino went on the Howard Stern Sirius radio show and spoke about how Disney is strong-arming Arclight Cinemas to push the director’s 70MM presentation of his eighth film The Hateful Eight aside in favor of Star Wars: The Force Awakens in LA’s famed Cinerama Dome. The director first learned about this on Monday. The western was originally due to play there claims Tarantino starting on Dec. 25th, but now Force Awakens is getting an extended play through the holidays.“It was real bad news and it f**king pyssed me off,” Tarantino told Stern. “They are going out of their way to f**k me.”All per Tarantino: when ArcLight Cinemas told Disney they were honoring their contract for Hateful Eight, Disney threatened to pull Force Awakens from all ArcLight locations.However, many sources tell Deadline that Disney secured the Dome months ago to play the Force Awakens through the holidays. This was further reflected in the fact that the Dome was an option to prospective Force Awakens ticket buyers when they went on sale on Oct. 19. Apparently, Tarantino only recently learned about the booking situation and decided to voice his protest on Stern. Tarantino owns and programs the New Beverly Cinema, a renowned revival house in Los Angeles.For years there was a clearance boundary whereby if a film was playing at the Chinese Theater on Hollywood Blvd, then it couldn’t be playing at the Cinerama Dome. But that’s not the situation here with Star Wars: The Force Awakens: It’s playing at the TCL Chinese Theater, Disney’s El Capitan and The Cinerama Dome.Living here in L.A., The Cinerama Dome is a prized venue for Tarantino. In fact the Cinerama logo appears in the opening credits of The Hateful Eight. The premiere for the film was held on Monday, Dec. 7 at the Cinerama Dome and the director told Deadline’s Pete Hammond, “I made The Hateful Eight for the Dome … This is the first time seeing it at the Dome for me too, and it was like I hadn’t even seen it before, not like this.”“It’s vindictive, it’s mean, and it’s extortion,” an uninformed Tarantino added. The Oscar-winning fimmaker further added that his beef isn’t with Force Awakens director J.J. Abrams, but with the top suits at Disney. In fact, Abrams worked with Tarantino when the director starred as McKenas Cole on Abrams’ ABC show Alias. “I made a lot of money for the Disney corporation,” Tarantino told Stern referring to the days when Disney owned Miramax and released such titles as Pulp Fiction ($213.9M worldwide) and the Kill Bill two pic saga (combined $333M worldwide) as well as Jackie Brown ($40M domestic).It’s no secret that there is a particularly hard fight for screens this holiday season with a glut of films and in fact, Hateful Eight wisely changed up its distribution pattern to accommodate that glut. “It’s so d**n crowded right now that everyone is pushing everything,” said one exhib about the fight for screens. “I had (one studio) tell me I have to hold (their movie) on one line while on the other I had (another studio) screaming at me about (their film). “The real problem is that it’s too packed and it’s hard to juggle all these films and we are telling them (the studios) that’s there are too many movies to juggle right now.”During the broadcast, Stern told Tarantino that Walt Disney Company CEO Bob Iger was an avid listener. The radio host addressed an absent Iger during the show, calling out: “Listen Bob … I don’t give a **** about this theater. Quentin’s a weirdo — sorry Quentin … They’ve got the stupid 70mm – they got all that **** that he cares about. He just wants to show his d**n movie there. You’re sitting on top of the world. You’ve got Star Wars. What, do you need this?”When reached by Deadline, Weinstein Co. and Disney provided no comment.In a statement yesterday, Arclight Cinemas announced how they were preparing for Star Wars: The Force Awakens; that the Dome was upgraded with dual-head Christie 6P laser projectors and Dolby 3D, which can project more than double the light of an average 3D projection system and enable moviegoers to see the nuances in Star Wars: Episode VII. Quote
Super User fishinfiend Posted January 1, 2016 Super User Posted January 1, 2016 I love star wars and was real disappointed with this one. H8FUL EIGHT is better than the new star wars. lol 1 Quote
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