shaggydog Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 OK Shimano fans... give me some advice. I'd love to have an opinion to add to this thread, but I don't own any Shimano bait casting reels. For bait casters, I have four Lew's Tournament Pros, a Daiwa PX Type R, a Daiwa Alphas SV105, two Daiwa Tatulas, and two Abu Orra Winches. Just from the fear I'm missing out on the Shimano love, what Shimano bait caster should I try as my next reel purchase that will provide me with the authentic Shimano experience? (It has to be left-hand retrieve and <$200; new or used.) [i do own two Symetre and two Sedona Shimano spinning reels. One of the Symetre reels is an old "Aero-Symetre" model and I really like it. The newer one from this spring has already had a binding issue. The two Sedonas are OK, but feeling a little sloppy already after light use.] Tight lines, Bob Get a core51mg7. I have three. Its a pretty d**n nice reel. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted December 16, 2015 Super User Posted December 16, 2015 Get a core51mg7. I have three. Its a pretty d**n nice reel. Quote
JGBassinAL Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 If your not catching any fish I would switch lakes. I catch just as many fish with my shimano reels as l do with lews/abu/pflueger. How come you want to switch brands? I was being facetious... Quote
desmobob Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 Get a core51mg7. I have three. Its a pretty d**n nice reel. I guess I'd have to look for a used one. And you guys know that if I DID get that reel, it would lead to a direct comparison to my Daiwa PX Type R; undisputed king of the finesse reels? Tight lines, Bob 1 Quote
shaggydog Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 I can buy a new one for $270. Price drop probably due to no more production. I put the septon II grips on mine to match the chronarch. I'm not saying its $70 better than a chronarch, but if you were to own only one reel from shimano, for me that would be the one. Quote
Kevinator1 Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 Lew's is catching up with everyone....its only a matter of time.....the reason....great value and multiple selections to choose from....My local tackle shop owner said, at least in my area, Lew's has been outselling Shimano 3 to 1 for the last 3 years. I'm one of those people who has started moving that way....I've got 6 Lew's, 4 Shimanos and 4 Abu Garcia's....(Baitcasting) And I haven't had any issues with my Lew's at this point.....not many problems with the others either. Just a thought. 1 Quote
IAY Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 I guess I'd have to look for a used one. And you guys know that if I DID get that reel, it would lead to a direct comparison to my Daiwa PX Type R; undisputed king of the finesse reels? Tight lines, Bob PX Type R is definitely not the undisputed king of finesse reels... Edit* I misread. You need to get a shallow spool for the Core, then you can try out a reel finesse reel d: . There are also really nice spools for Pixy, but they are harder to come by. Quote
k3bass Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 The newer one from this spring has already had a binding issue. The two Sedonas are OK, but feeling a little sloppy already after light use. I'd say you've already had the authentic shimano experience. Lol 1 Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted December 16, 2015 Super User Posted December 16, 2015 I guess I'd have to look for a used one. And you guys know that if I DID get that reel, it would lead to a direct comparison to my Daiwa PX Type R; undisputed king of the finesse reels? Tight lines, Bob Maybe the BFS aldebaran XG would be a better match. Or core with upgraded spool cause the px-r was like a $500 reel. quote from another site "the Core with the Avail super shallow ALD9029 I think with the mag brake. With that setup I found it superior in distance and control over the CQ50s and even the pixy R. http://japantackle.com/casting-reels/shimano/low-profile-casting-reels/shimano-aldebaran-bfs2015ltd.html Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted December 16, 2015 Super User Posted December 16, 2015 OK Shimano fans... give me some advice. I'd love to have an opinion to add to this thread, but I don't own any Shimano bait casting reels. For bait casters, I have four Lew's Tournament Pros, a Daiwa PX Type R, a Daiwa Alphas SV105, two Daiwa Tatulas, and two Abu Orra Winches. Just from the fear I'm missing out on the Shimano love, what Shimano bait caster should I try as my next reel purchase that will provide me with the authentic Shimano experience? (It has to be left-hand retrieve and <$200; new or used.) [i do own two Symetre and two Sedona Shimano spinning reels. One of the Symetre reels is an old "Aero-Symetre" model and I really like it. The newer one from this spring has already had a binding issue. The two Sedonas are OK, but feeling a little sloppy already after light use.] Tight lines, Bob If you aren't a reel weight weenie and don't mind ordering from Japan get the Exscence DC for $250 new shipped from Digitaka. Yes, it is $50 over budget but this reel will wow you from a performance standpoint. No other reel you have owned can do what the DC system can. A clicking drag as fish pulls line, a sweet sounding DC wine, all external adjustments, modes for every line type, and a mode that can fast without using any thumb, and reel capable of casting far with plenty of line capacity. You won't find another $250 reel that will do this. I just recently ordered a 2nd as I was so impressed with the first. Good from anything 1/4 and up! Quote
IAY Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 Maybe the BFS aldebaran XG would be a better match. Or core with upgraded spool cause the px-r was like a $500 reel. quote from another site "the Core with the Avail super shallow ALD9029 I think with the mag brake. With that setup I found it superior in distance and control over the CQ50s and even the pixy R. http://japantackle.com/casting-reels/shimano/low-profile-casting-reels/shimano-aldebaran-bfs2015ltd.html The thing about the Px type r is that the spool weighs good 13 grams without the bearing while Aldebaran BFS is in the 9 gram range. You really need to cut the fat when you are casting finesse lures. 1 Quote
bootytrain Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 I guess I'd have to look for a used one. And you guys know that if I DID get that reel, it would lead to a direct comparison to my Daiwa PX Type R; undisputed king of the finesse reels? Tight lines, Bob Sorry man... the king was dethroned and banished a few years ago lol... it was surpassed by several reels for finesse capabilities like the aldebaran bfs xg, xg limited, Revo ltz/ltx, and Daiwa's own T3 Air and SS Air. Quote
IowaHusker28 Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 Now I am obviously not going to argue anything here because you have done your research and have personal experience and I am not going to argue opinion and/or stated facts for that matter. I will also say comparing bearings in the terms of number does not exactly correlate to performance, just like you stated with cars, the new Ford GT uses a V6, and pumps out 50 more horsepower than its V8 predecessor. More doesn't always mean better performance; and yes I realize you stated an obvious bearing/bushing situation but that would cause major failure in a car. More/less that is why there are multiple very successful brands, people can buy what they want in a reel. I am more less stating that some companies sell you on the fact you need more, or that a reel with 7 is better than one with 5, because I can name multiple reels that I wouldn't even blink before taking the Curado. Moral of the story. To each his own. I have also heard shimano reps say something similar, but I will have disagree with this statement. For example, take the shimano stradic FJ series reel. It has 5 bearings, but in the new stradic reels you now find more bearings. Why the change? In my old stradic spinning reel I found a peculiar situation when I opened it up for the first time. On the main drive gear I found only one ball bearing on one side and white plastic cheap bushing on the other side. Odd how that cheap plastic bushing was exactly the same size as the ball bearing on the other side. Coincidence? Hardly. Engineers designed the reel to accommodate ball bearings on BOTH sides of the main drive gear but for some reason it was left out on one side. Can you imagine building cars this way? On an axle to have a ball bearing on one side only and bushings on the other side? It does not make sense, but it does make cents. The whole reason to use a ball bearing is to improve ease of operation and smoothness, but if you use a plastic bushing on the other side it tends to add friction which really defeats the purpose of the ball bearing in the first place. Needless to say it, but that cheap plastic bushing was thrown in the trash can and a ball bearing was installed so that now both sides of the main drive gear had ball bearings exactly as the original engineers designed it. 1 Quote
IowaHusker28 Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 Heck if Shimano is supposedly losing market shares and they have to drop their prices to compete with other brands, although it seems Abu just keeps putting the same reel on the market with a cooler name and selling them. It just means more Shimanos for me Quote
GetJigginWithIt Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 I need my dumbrella, a lot of stupid out there today. 3 1 Quote
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