cjam93 Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 Hey guys so I have been looking into trying out this line. I have a few questions about it though. How is the knot strength with it over? What I mean is I usually on my braid or mono setups tie up what I assume I will be using the most on the water the night before. My fc setups though I have noticed if I do this the knot in the morning will be weak and break very easily. How is hybrid in this regard? Is it easy to burn when tying like fc? Does it sink like fc or float like mono? I crank with fc usually 12lb for all depths. Right now I use Invisx. Would I need to drop down the strength of the line if I went to hybrid to get the same depth out of my lures? I have never been sure exactly how much difference there is between say .011 and .013 in line diameter. Will that difference really cause the lures to run that much different of a depth? thanks guys! Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted December 10, 2015 Super User Posted December 10, 2015 I have 14,400 yds of 12# Smoke. This line is fantastic. The knot strength and line strength in general is incredible and while i don't advise NOT retying every time you go out, I have and it held up just fine. I too have experienced FC knots breaking that are a "day" old so to speak and not retied. You should wet it down when cinching tight just like any line. In regards to it floating/sinking, I've used it on many topwater lures as well with no problems. it doesn't truly float on surface from my observations but more or less a super super slow sink. It is just an all around great multi use line and I primarily fish braid with everything. I use YZ for cranking, jerkbaits and topwater trebles. The difference in .011 to .013 diameter is going to be marginal and I wouldn't worry about it at all. Get the 12# line with confidence and use a little KVD LL to tame it. Spray it on the night before or a few hours before you go out and you're golden. 3 Quote
Cgrinder Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 Mine floats or is normally buoyant. Hard to tell. It knots well. I use the 6 lb for Smallmouth and catch big drum by mistake. Strong line. I think the sensitivity is lousy compared to fluoro but it's cheap and available. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted December 10, 2015 Super User Posted December 10, 2015 I think the term is "surface tension". Yo-Zuri Hybrid will not float up if submerged, but slack line appears to float. The net effect on topwater or bottom contact lures/ bait is neutral or nothing whats-so-ever. All knots or any knot will work just fine if properly tied. Abrasion resistance is superb, stretch is nominal and the breaking strength is significantly greater than stated: #12 has a diameter of .13" and breaking strength of 19.5 lbs. . 2 Quote
5fishlimit Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 Like, MarkH024, I have large spool of Yo-Zuri Hybrid just in the 10# test smoke color. It is a fantastic line, and for me the 10# test works great on my baitcasters. I will try other copoly lines throughout the year, and always come back to the Yo-Zuri. The high breaking strength for the test rating is great, and I agree with roadwarrior that the product has nominal stretch. I use a San Diego Jam Knot for all my lines, and this line has no issues whatsoever if I tie my knot the night before a tournament. IMHO it is one of the most forgiving lines I've used as far as abrasion is concerned, too. I think the overwhelming sentiment of BR members will agree that this is a fantastic line to use! 1 Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted December 11, 2015 Super User Posted December 11, 2015 I have been testing mono, fluorocarbon and co-polymer lines now head to head for several years now. I would say YH may be the best all around line. In stretch tests it's about as good as you get outside of braid (far better than any fluorocarbon), it's also water and UV resistant, stronger than its rated strength, knots are superb, abrasion excellent, it is "neutrally buoyant" and can be fished both bottom contact and topwater (unique) and it isn't a rats-nest-waiting-to-happen pita like fluorocarbon. No, I don't work for YH or anyone in the fishing industry.... I have spent a lot of time and my own money testing a lot of lines. There may be certain lines better for some specific applications - but all around, I don't think YH has a peer. Quote
cjam93 Posted December 11, 2015 Author Posted December 11, 2015 Thanks for all the help guys I appreciate it! I will likely be trying this line very soon! Quote
Cgrinder Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 Yeah, neutrally bouyant is the term. Phone autocorrect is the best. Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted December 11, 2015 Super User Posted December 11, 2015 Yeah, neutrally bouyant is the term. Phone autocorrect is the best. I guess that's better than correcting to "neutered boy" or something... 1 Quote
Super User MickD Posted December 11, 2015 Super User Posted December 11, 2015 It is one of the best casting lines I've found (12# test), knot strength is fine, but I would not characterize it as having particularly little stretch. I think it's about like mono for stretch. I've used it for surface with no problems, but fc does present problems for me, so the buoyancy ov YZ Hybrid seems to be fine for everything. Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted December 12, 2015 Super User Posted December 12, 2015 It is one of the best casting lines I've found (12# test), knot strength is fine, but I would not characterize it as having particularly little stretch. I think it's about like mono for stretch. I've used it for surface with no problems, but fc does present problems for me, so the buoyancy ov YZ Hybrid seems to be fine for everything. In my annual stretch test, out of 20 lines YH stretched 2nd out of 20 lines and far less than any fluorocarbon. The only line that stretched less was Trilene XT. Quote
Super User MickD Posted December 13, 2015 Super User Posted December 13, 2015 In my annual stretch test, out of 20 lines YH stretched 2nd out of 20 lines and far less than any fluorocarbon. The only line that stretched less was Trilene XT. I have no hard data, just perception. I wonder if YH has changed in the last few years as mine was from about 4 years ago. I m going to have to try a new spool. Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted December 13, 2015 Global Moderator Posted December 13, 2015 I use 12# for cranking, and really like it. Because of it's stength and since I throw a lot of spinnerbaits in scattered to mildly heavy grass, I'm really thinking about useing it for that too. Mike Quote
desmobob Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 I love the stuff. I use the 8 lb. for small topwater and small cranks. It's just shy of 12 lb. in actual breaking strength. It makes casting light baits easier and handles like a dream. Tight lines, Bob Quote
Fishing03xx Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 what knots are you guys using for the line? Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted December 13, 2015 Global Moderator Posted December 13, 2015 San Diego Jam Mike Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted December 13, 2015 Super User Posted December 13, 2015 San Diego Jam Mike Do you use SDJ for all lines? Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted December 13, 2015 Global Moderator Posted December 13, 2015 Yes, for all but braid..For that I use the Palomar Mike 2 Quote
desmobob Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 An old school improved clinch knot works fine for me. Tight lines, Bob 2 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted December 13, 2015 Global Moderator Posted December 13, 2015 An old school improved clinch knot works fine for me. Tight lines, Bob I used that for years and years and it holds. But given the heavy to moderate cover I fish in the most down here, I just have more confidence in the SDJ. Been playing with the No Name and starting to use that more for jigs with heavy Flouro. Mike Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted December 14, 2015 Super User Posted December 14, 2015 Aside from braid, YZ Hybrid is the only line I use anymore. When I consider stretch, strength, cost, durability, manageability, knot strength, etc, nothing else comes close. I still use braid for frogs and jigs, but little else. I use improved clinch with YZ almost exclusively (occasional Rapala knot or palomar.) My ONLY issue with Yo Zuri is that it will become badly compromised when 'creased' or kinked hard. If folded hard in a backlash or a spinning loop cluster, it must be replaced. Once doubled over and creased, it becomes very fragile (as do most monos and fluoros) Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted December 14, 2015 Super User Posted December 14, 2015 I used that for years and years and it holds. But given the heavy to moderate cover I fish in the most down here, I just have more confidence in the SDJ. Been playing with the No Name and starting to use that more for jigs with heavy Flouro. Mike I think the weakness created by a kink is characteristic of the fluorocarbon component. Fluorocarbon is a crystal and will "crack". If you notice a compromised line it MUST be replaced. http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/68635-huge-disappointment/page-2 Quote
GoCougs14 Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Would yo zuri hybrid work for frogs? I know braid is the most popular choice. Im gonna get a jig rod that I would like to be able to throw frogs on also, so mu options are braid+leader or yo zuri hybrid. Quote
desmobob Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Would yo zuri hybrid work for frogs? I know braid is the most popular choice. Im gonna get a jig rod that I would like to be able to throw frogs on also, so mu options are braid+leader or yo zuri hybrid. For frogs, I'd stick with braid. I slices through most of the weeds vs. gathering them up like mono. You could always add a leader (if you felt it was necessary) when fishing jigs. Tight lines, Bob Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted December 15, 2015 Super User Posted December 15, 2015 I throw jigs and frogs with MHF straight braid for both. So, maybe there's another option Quote
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