Super User Raul Posted December 6, 2015 Super User Posted December 6, 2015 4.- Gary needs all the sales he can get and us helping him since we need to support his other business, A little bird told me his effort as a Kobe meat lord isn't doing well. Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted December 6, 2015 Super User Posted December 6, 2015 GY would lose money if his baits were more durable. Less people would be stocking up on them. ...because they wouldn't work as well. Quote
EvanT123 Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 O'rings like people have said, though sometimes the senko flys off the hook during the fight. T rigging, after a fish or two I take a little off the top and re-rig. Do you have rock bass in your waters? They like to dwindle my senkos. Dang things. 2 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 6, 2015 Global Moderator Posted December 6, 2015 Screwlock hooks help a ton if you're T-rigging them also. I caught an unheard of 5 fish off a single Senko last Thursday before I got tired of catching dinks and went back to real fishing 3 Quote
5fishlimit Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 I just consider it the cost of doing business. 3 Quote
etrout72 Posted December 7, 2015 Posted December 7, 2015 I would suggest looking into the Zman elaztech products. Super tough, great action, and they catch fish. 2 Quote
Super User everythingthatswims Posted December 7, 2015 Super User Posted December 7, 2015 I have pretty much switched to a 1/16oz weedless wacky head and a trick worm. Way cheaper, and shows them something a little different. Plenty of nice fish caught on that rig for me. 1 Quote
Big C Posted December 7, 2015 Author Posted December 7, 2015 I have pretty much switched to a 1/16oz weedless wacky head and a trick worm. Way cheaper, and shows them something a little different. Plenty of nice fish caught on that rig for me. I'll have to try that, how well do they skip? That's one reason I like throwing weightless wacky worms, I can skip them under docks and trees very easily. Quote
Big C Posted December 7, 2015 Author Posted December 7, 2015 I would suggest looking into the Zman elaztech products. Super tough, great action, and they catch fish. I know Elaz-Tech plastics are insanley more durable than normal plastic, but they float. Do they pack them with enough salt to make them sink? Quote
Zach P Posted December 7, 2015 Posted December 7, 2015 You're lucky to get one fish on a senko. If you are wacky rigging it, yes o rings help a lot. On a side note if you are wacky rigging it check out the buzz bug sassy stick. Watch their 2 min video of the action of it and I doubt youll want to use a different brand. It has amazing action and the plastic feels more durable. As MidwestF1sh mentioned in this comment nothing compares to the original GYCB senko. Years ago i tried different brands to cut down on cost, but the senko shimmies unllike any other brand (it's why they cost so much and a lot of colors are usually out of stock most places). It's been said before, but the statement "Often imitated, never duplicated" was probably meant for GYCB senko. You just have to understand that when you throw them you are basically trying to catch one fish per bait. Sometimes you might get lucky and catch 2, but rarely have I ever had a senko last 3 plus fish. 1 Quote
Zach P Posted December 7, 2015 Posted December 7, 2015 1.- There´s nothing like the original senko 2.- Nothing lasts as little as an original senko 3.- Switch brands, for example, YUM Dingers last several fish and are easily repaired with Mend It. -This is the post I meant to quote, not the one I previously quoted. 1 Quote
Super User buzzed bait Posted December 7, 2015 Super User Posted December 7, 2015 3/8" heat shrink tubing found at lowe's or home depot.... really don't even need to apply heat, can just slide the tubing over the worm and stick the hook through it. allows me to fish senkos MUCH longer than the traditional method. i also think it allows for better hookups like this than having it parallel to the bait like you would with an o ring. site member wayne P has a great write up here: http://www.bigindianabass.com/big_indiana_bass/a-better-wacky-rigging-method.html Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted December 7, 2015 Super User Posted December 7, 2015 As MidwestF1sh mentioned in this comment nothing compares to the original GYCB senko. Years ago i tried different brands to cut down on cost, but the senko shimmies unllike any other brand (it's why they cost so much and a lot of colors are usually out of stock most places). It's been said before, but the statement "Often imitated, never duplicated" was probably meant for GYCB senko. You just have to understand that when you throw them you are basically trying to catch one fish per bait. Sometimes you might get lucky and catch 2, but rarely have I ever had a senko last 3 plus fish. I have gotten way more, in the 10 or so range many times. Its rare anymore that I only get one or two fish. I would most likely been bit off by a pike if so. Plus with mend-it Iv been in the 20+ with one senko. If it get torn or a slash it gets put in bag, when I get home a liittle brush of mend-it and its good for next outing. Mend-it just saves sooo much money paying for itself 10-20-30 fold If the tail of a keitech impact doesnt get bit off Ive repaired one bait 8-9 times 1 Quote
kadas Posted December 7, 2015 Posted December 7, 2015 I do not think anything else works as well as a true Senko but I have been using the Gambler Ace a lot recently and they seem [to me] a very very close 2nd to Gary's Senko and they are also considerably less expensive than Yamamoto's bait--understand sometimes you just have to grin and bear it when it comes to price but I am always experimenting with other "stick" baits as far as price Quote
Super User everythingthatswims Posted December 8, 2015 Super User Posted December 8, 2015 I'll have to try that, how well do they skip? That's one reason I like throwing weightless wacky worms, I can skip them under docks and trees very easily. It doesn't skip as easily but it definitely skips. doesn't get hung on docks or brush either! 1 Quote
Big C Posted December 8, 2015 Author Posted December 8, 2015 It doesn't skip as easily but it definitely skips. doesn't get hung on docks or brush either! Sweet, I'm going to try that next time. I actually have a pack of weighted wacky hooks I've never used. 1 Quote
Super User Senko lover Posted December 8, 2015 Super User Posted December 8, 2015 I have also switched over to a wacky rigged trick worm; haven't noticed a drop in size. 1 Quote
Cgrinder Posted December 8, 2015 Posted December 8, 2015 Skip gap hooks and mend it. Cost of doing business. Quote
C0lt Posted December 8, 2015 Posted December 8, 2015 Ive never even fished a senko, or any other stick baits. Quote
Super User WIGuide Posted December 8, 2015 Super User Posted December 8, 2015 I use Yum Dingers instead. They're more durable yet still have good action. If I'm wacky rigging them, I'll use an Eco Pro Tungsten Wacky Weight which helps to bump up the durability as well as the rate of fall. 2 Quote
etrout72 Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 I know Elaz-Tech plastics are insanley more durable than normal plastic, but they float. Do they pack them with enough salt to make them sink? Quote
etrout72 Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 They make one called the zinkerz thats a slow sinking worm similar looking to a senko. IMO the floating action is what entices fish. Try a fattyZ carolina or texas rigged. I've caught a bass that bit the worm, not the hook! 1 Quote
desmobob Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 Sometimes you might get lucky and catch 2, but rarely have I ever had a senko last 3 plus fish. I use an O-ring and Owner weedless wacky hooks. I get at least three fish; usually more, per Senko! Tight lines, Bob 1 Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted December 9, 2015 Super User Posted December 9, 2015 Ive never even fished a senko, or any other stick baits. You tell lies. 1 Quote
RyneB Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 I also use an O ring, I can catch countless fish on it and it never gets torn up. Just teeth marks and beat up a little, but it never gets thrown off the line cut in half. 1 Quote
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