TxHawgs Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 Moved to Tx recently and got the bug bad lol, joined a club as a co angler so u will be seeing lots of questions like this from me as I need lots of new tackle and want the good stuff lol. On TW the preferred shaky head is the one from Yum, what's yours? Thanks guys. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 5, 2015 Global Moderator Posted December 5, 2015 Depends on what I'm fishing on the shakyhead. I pour all my own but for worms or baits I'm going to do more hopping and shaking, I use a regular ball head with a screwlock. For baits I'm going to drag, I opt for the football head with a screwlock. Then for the big baits, I go with a swinging football head (not exactly a shakyhead, but pretty similar and hook options are pretty limitless). If I was still buying them, it would be the Megastrike shakyheads without question. 1 Quote
1234567 Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 Sieberts extreme shakey head. The owner Hook is solid and sharp. Now if only mike could find a way to make it just a bit lighter Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 5, 2015 Super User Posted December 5, 2015 Picasso shakedown because I like the Gamakatsu hook size used. Siebert's jigs look good and use premium hooks at a reasonable price point, give them try. Tom Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted December 5, 2015 Super User Posted December 5, 2015 I like the VMC rugby heads. 1 Quote
GetBent Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 Guy on eBay bob4bass huge selection and styles. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted December 5, 2015 Super User Posted December 5, 2015 Visit the clearest lake in your area, or a neighbor's swimming pool.Visually compare the actions of various plastic worms on various jigheads.You might reach the conclusion that 'worm buoyancy' is more important than the jighead Roger 4 Quote
Dypsis Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 I use 2 in most cases: Owner Shakey Ultrahead or the Owner Ultrahead Bullet Rig (smaller worms). Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted December 5, 2015 Super User Posted December 5, 2015 As a co-angler you'll probably be fishing the shaky head a lot. I own many different brands, acquired in the pursuit of a perfect shaky head. That quest is no where near finished, but I understand what I am looking for now. Here is some stuff to think about. Many people think shaky head fishing as a finesse technique and it is - kinda. Be mindful that if you're fishing a lighter weight head from the back of the boat, the boater will often move the boat before your bait sinks to where you want it. Just a fact of tournament life as a co-angler, more often than not the boater keeps the boat moving. Very occasionally, the fish will want a swimming shaky head and in that case you're golden. Most of the time they don't. The answer here is to go with a heavier shaky head. You can go 3/8 oz on 8 or 10 lb line. That is one option. That allows you a better chance to get your bait to the bottom and work it for a moment before the boater moves the boat. If you have to choose between a head that is better at dragging or at hopping - go for the dragging, as you will probably be dragging your bait behind the boat quite a bit. Chompers makes a 3/8 oz head that I like quite a bit, but there are plenty of other styles out there. Recently I got some 3/8 oz finesse heads from Megastrike but I haven't fished them that much yet. What I eventually evolved into was a 7/16 or half ounce head fished on 14 lb fluorocarbon. Bait casting gear handles this weight line better than spinning gear. Another option to consider might be a jika rig. I make my own and the ones I use weigh out to around 5/8 oz. Depending on what hook you puts on them, they fish shaky worms, magnum shaky worms, creature baits, lizards, whatever. Advantages to these are that they always drop straight down, which is handy to know when you are targeting objects rather than areas and they are pretty heavy so they get to the bottom relatively quickly. The advantage to this becomes apparent once you've fished as a co-angler a lot. Tx. rigged football heads and Biffle bug type baits are other options, I'm pretty sure that other guys know more about the ins and outs of these baits more than I do. Last couple of years when I've fished out of some one else's boat I've focused on the heavier jika rig. Fishing out of my own boat, where I've got control of boat movement, I've had a decent amount of success throwing quarter ounce Brewer Slider heads and5" paddle tail worms on 10 lb line. Generally I'm throwing this boat into water than is more than 3 feet and less than 10 or 12 feet. Any deeper and I feel like I've got to wait too long for the bait to get to the bottom. So there you've got it - current thoughts on shaky head/soft plastic/co angler fishing. I've never fished on any Texas lakes so I don't know much about how this will apply to your situation. Option #next would be to check out the gear that the most successful co-angler in your club fishes and fish like he does. 2 Quote
TxHawgs Posted December 5, 2015 Author Posted December 5, 2015 Visit the clearest lake in your area, or a neighbor's swimming pool. Visually compare the actions of various plastic worms on various jigheads. You might reach the conclusion that 'worm buoyancy' is more important than the jighead Roger Good point, but neither one of those I have access too. I was really just wanting to start with a good jig that had a good hook up ratio and one that stayed upright well. But will definitely work on which plastics to use once I find the right jig, thanks man, great point. Quote
TxHawgs Posted December 5, 2015 Author Posted December 5, 2015 As a co-angler you'll probably be fishing the shaky head a lot. I own many different brands, acquired in the pursuit of a perfect shaky head. That quest is no where near finished, but I understand what I am looking for now. Here is some stuff to think about. Many people think shaky head fishing as a finesse technique and it is - kinda. Be mindful that if you're fishing a lighter weight head from the back of the boat, the boater will often move the boat before your bait sinks to where you want it. Just a fact of tournament life as a co-angler, more often than not the boater keeps the boat moving. Very occasionally, the fish will want a swimming shaky head and in that case you're golden. Most of the time they don't. The answer here is to go with a heavier shaky head. You can go 3/8 oz on 8 or 10 lb line. That is one option. That allows you a better chance to get your bait to the bottom and work it for a moment before the boater moves the boat. If you have to choose between a head that is better at dragging or at hopping - go for the dragging, as you will probably be dragging your bait behind the boat quite a bit. Chompers makes a 3/8 oz head that I like quite a bit, but there are plenty of other styles out there. Recently I got some 3/8 oz finesse heads from Megastrike but I haven't fished them that much yet. What I eventually evolved into was a 7/16 or half ounce head fished on 14 lb fluorocarbon. Bait casting gear handles this weight line better than spinning gear. Another option to consider might be a jika rig. I make my own and the ones I use weigh out to around 5/8 oz. Depending on what hook you puts on them, they fish shaky worms, magnum shaky worms, creature baits, lizards, whatever. Advantages to these are that they always drop straight down, which is handy to know when you are targeting objects rather than areas and they are pretty heavy so they get to the bottom relatively quickly. The advantage to this becomes apparent once you've fished as a co-angler a lot. Tx. rigged football heads and Biffle bug type baits are other options, I'm pretty sure that other guys know more about the ins and outs of these baits more than I do. Last couple of years when I've fished out of some one else's boat I've focused on the heavier jika rig. Fishing out of my own boat, where I've got control of boat movement, I've had a decent amount of success throwing quarter ounce Brewer Slider heads and5" paddle tail worms on 10 lb line. Generally I'm throwing this boat into water than is more than 3 feet and less than 10 or 12 feet. Any deeper and I feel like I've got to wait too long for the bait to get to the bottom. So there you've got it - current thoughts on shaky head/soft plastic/co angler fishing. I've never fished on any Texas lakes so I don't know much about how this will apply to your situation. Option #next would be to check out the gear that the most successful co-angler in your club fishes and fish like he does. Awesome thanks so much for the info man, I learn everyday and will be googling jika rig when done here lol, thanks again. Quote
TxHawgs Posted December 5, 2015 Author Posted December 5, 2015 Thanks for all the info so far guys, this forum is awesome. Quote
speed craw Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 Picasso shakedown , also like the jewel bait Jeff Kriet squirrel head shakey head jig . Quote
Super User RoLo Posted December 6, 2015 Super User Posted December 6, 2015 Good point, but neither one of those I have access too. I was really just wanting to start with a good jig that had a good hook up ratio and one that stayed upright well. But will definitely work on which plastics to use once I find the right jig, thanks man, great point. Provided the worm is a 'floater' (lighter than water) or 'neutrally buoyant' (same weight as water), any jighead will provide a provocative shaky worm delivery ;-)) Roger Quote
DaleGribble Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 Gamakatsu skip gap shaky head hooks have been my favorite by far since I discovered them. They skip gap style hooks keep plastics straight up and prevent them from tearing at all Quote
Super User Catt Posted December 6, 2015 Super User Posted December 6, 2015 Yum Pumpkin Ed & Buckeye Spot Remover Berkley Havoc Bottom Hopper & Bassassin Tapout Big Boy Toys Right There. 1 Quote
Super User Shane J Posted December 6, 2015 Super User Posted December 6, 2015 http://moanerhooks.com/product/1-oz-enraged-shakey/ 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted December 6, 2015 Super User Posted December 6, 2015 http://moanerhooks.com/product/1-oz-enraged-shakey/ 1 ounce! Me like! Big Craw Worm deep water structure. 1 Quote
Sheepdog Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 I would HIGHLY recommend the Megastrike jig heads. I've never seen anything come close to their design at keep you're bait standing upright. Tons of weights and hook sizes to choose from. My favorite plastics to throw on 'em, Power Team Lures(PTL) makes a great neutral buoyant worm called a Tickler, a 7"(or 5" would work) is fantastic for shakey head fishing. And you can never go wrong with a FAT roboworm straight tail. PTL also makes a few good shakey hooks, a "Tick Shake" is a football head style and would be ideal for rocky bottoms. Good luck! Hope this helps. Quote
C0lt Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 The megastrike heads have been the only shakey heads Ive used that have stood up at least 75% of the time. 1 Quote
ward131 Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 http://moanerhooks.com/product/1-oz-enraged-shakey/ Those look real nice! I like the free swinging screw lock! 1 Quote
TxHawgs Posted December 7, 2015 Author Posted December 7, 2015 Wow thanks for all the advice guys, man it looks like I'm gonna be spending some money on shaky heads to figure out which ones I like now. Quote
PourMyOwn Posted December 7, 2015 Posted December 7, 2015 Another vote for the Buckeye Spot Remover. The only jig head I use that I don't pour myself. Quote
Super User everythingthatswims Posted December 7, 2015 Super User Posted December 7, 2015 I like the strike king football heads. I don't know why anyone wouldn't want to use a football head, they stand up way better and dont get hung up as bad. I also hate screw loc shakey heads, even if I'm going to tear up more baits I wanna get anything between the fish's mouth and my hook out of the way! Quote
desmobob Posted December 8, 2015 Posted December 8, 2015 I'll add a vote for the Megastrike (Pro Series). It's a funky-looking thing, but works very well! Tight lines, Bob Quote
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