Josh Smith Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 Hello, I'm wondering how you folks feel about the Hot Sauce grease. My biggest problem with greases I've used in the past is that it tends to migrate off the gears. I was reading reviews on different greases and it appears that this migrates the least. Is this your experience? It was between this, Cal's, and Yamaha blue marine grease. I went with the Quantum stuff because it can be here tomorrow or the next day due to the vendor being 45 miles from me. Thoughts? Thanks, Josh Quote
k3bass Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 I've always liked superlube grease the best for gears. I can't stand the red crap in the hot sauce oil and grease. 2 Quote
Super User Raul Posted December 2, 2015 Super User Posted December 2, 2015 The general consensus amongst our resident reel technicians id that Red Sauce is junk sauce. 1 Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted December 2, 2015 Super User Posted December 2, 2015 I would never use hot sauce ever again. Anymore I only use Hedgehog Studios oils or Shimano Bantam oil. Quote
cottny27 Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 I think your fine with the Hot Sauce. I've been using it for years with no issues. Quote
Damn Yankee Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 I have used hot sauce for years, no issuses.I guess it is just personal prefrence. Quote
Super User MickD Posted December 2, 2015 Super User Posted December 2, 2015 My late great reel service person would charge extra if the reel had hot sauce in it. My experience is that it won't migrate because it goes solid. You can do a lot better. Quote
RB 77 Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 I use Cal's grease and Shimano oil for all of my reels. Cal's grease is the business! I am pleased with the results. Quote
cottny27 Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 I do not like how bad the red stains everything. You gotta be careful on your counter tops Quote
cottny27 Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 I'll be taking a reel apart here soon that has hot sauce in it. I'm going to take some pics and post them. I'm curious how its holding up now. I am interested in trying some Suber Lube synthetic. Quote
mrpao Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 I have not used the grease but have no issues with the oil. The problem is some people use too much. That's when it gets messy. A little grease or oil goes a long way. Quote
Super User Darren. Posted December 2, 2015 Super User Posted December 2, 2015 I was actually looking into this today, and came across Alan Hawk's reel care "guide" and he happens to like Hot Sauce, but it is one of his likes. Also likes the Shimano products, Penn, Ardent, Daiwa, etc. For me, I'll stick to my Shimano, Ardent oils, and Ardent grease. Probably pick up Shimano greases at some point down the road. Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted December 3, 2015 Super User Posted December 3, 2015 The problem is not the substance in and of it self is bad, rather the red color and dye left behind. I can see the logic as in the color will allow someone to see where the product has been applied and where it has not. I watched a friend use it in a few of his reels for a year. He said it seemed to have made a mess of the insides in terms of dying things. It required more of a detailed cleaning to remove it. If colored dye in reel oils was that great or beneficial you would see more companies using it. Quote
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted December 3, 2015 Super User Posted December 3, 2015 I think the dye is a metal bonding process it actaully bonds with what ever it touches.i use rem oil and penn grease. Quote
Kevinator1 Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 Yeah, I think that the Hot Sauce Grease gets a bad rap for just the staining of the red dye.....If you only put it on the gears then its not that big of a deal because its on the inside anyway.....some people have said that it hardens, or is tacky, but I haven't seen this and I've used it many times. I think its just a small complaint someone had that has gotten blown out of proportion. Quote
k3bass Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 Yeah, I think that the Hot Sauce Grease gets a bad rap for just the staining of the red dye.....If you only put it on the gears then its not that big of a deal because its on the inside anyway.....some people have said that it hardens, or is tacky, but I haven't seen this and I've used it many times. I think its just a small complaint someone had that has gotten blown out of proportion. It will seep out of the reel eventually even if you use just a tiny bit and will stain everything it touches. Seems to me that oil or grease that stains everything red is a pretty good reason for it to earn a bad rap. 1 Quote
desmobob Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 I've been using it for a couple of years with no complaints. I wasn't really looking to buy it, but it came in a kit with the Hot Sauce oil for a good price, so I tried it. Previously, I used MiliTech grease. It is a light but very sticky grease that works well and stays in place. I'll pick up more of it at some point. Tight lines, Bob Quote
Zimobass Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 As someone who services and repairs reels for others, I would never use the "red" stuff in any of their reels. Experimented with it for a period some years ago, in my own reels, and was not impressed with the damage caused by dying the internals.Impossible to get clean, even using a US cleaner. Shimano plastics are meant to be white not PINK ! Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted December 4, 2015 Super User Posted December 4, 2015 Shimano drag grease has stayed put the best of several brands I've tried. oe Quote
Josh Smith Posted December 4, 2015 Author Posted December 4, 2015 Thanks guys. It was a tossup between this and Shimano. I went with the Quantum because it'll get here faster, but I do want to try both eventually. Nothing I grease in my Ambassadeurs spins so fast as to throw the grease off. I am more concerned about temperature resistance and staying put under friction. I don't use a lot of grease at all; pinion and main are the only gears to get it, and only the teeth on those. Thanks again! Josh Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 If your grease is migrating you're using too much. Anything more than a film between mating surfaces is wasted. Hot sauce grease is horrible as it gums up as had been stated. Any of the greases you use now are good. 2 Quote
Josh Smith Posted December 5, 2015 Author Posted December 5, 2015 If your grease is migrating you're using too much. Anything more than a film between mating surfaces is wasted. Hot sauce grease is horrible as it gums up as had been stated. Any of the greases you use now are good. The stuff I'm using now is not a grease, per se. It's engine assembly lube, which is excellent in most applications I've put it, especially firearms slide rails. In fact, it seems excellent in the reel itself for certain applications; I really like it on carbon drags, for example. It does not do well inside bearings or on gears. This has mostly been an experiment with newer lubes. Prior to this, I just used old tubes of Abu Garcia grease I had laying around. They've since dried out, though. I'll try the Hot Sauce as I have it ordered, apply it sparingly, and see what happens. I'll be placing an order for Shimano grease soon, too, to apply to another reel. Whichever works best for me will go in all the reels when I'm done 'playing'. Thank you, DVT. Your input is always valued. Regards, Josh Quote
Super User Raul Posted December 5, 2015 Super User Posted December 5, 2015 I use Penn Blue grease for gears, Penn lube for the level wind, Shimano/Daiwa oil for bearings ( handle and spool supporting ), Shimano drag grease for drags. Quote
Josh Smith Posted December 5, 2015 Author Posted December 5, 2015 I use Penn Blue grease for gears, Penn lube for the level wind, Shimano/Daiwa oil for bearings ( handle and spool supporting ), Shimano drag grease for drags. Penn was another I was looking at online. When researching it, I could only find references to saltwater anglers packing their reels with it, so I skipped it. Regards, Josh Quote
Josh Smith Posted December 5, 2015 Author Posted December 5, 2015 Guys, I found some Ardent Reel Butter locally. Yellow grease stuff. Any experience with this? Regards, Josh Quote
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