5 Dollar Fishing Game Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 http://www.bassmaster.com/news/brown-gets-25-years-jimmy-johnsons-murder Quote
Super User Darren. Posted December 2, 2015 Super User Posted December 2, 2015 Hopefully this is "justice served"... Sad story... Quote
Super User Senko lover Posted December 2, 2015 Super User Posted December 2, 2015 Wow, that's a sad story. I'm glad justice was done. Edit: Darren's reply was added while I was posting mine Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted December 2, 2015 Super User Posted December 2, 2015 That sentence is not justice. 25 years for robbing his boat & shooting him in the face is a sad commentary on our justice system. 23 Quote
Ski213 Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 Hopefully he will actually have to serve every day of it. A completely senseless crime. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted December 2, 2015 Super User Posted December 2, 2015 Eye for an eye. A-Jay 12 Quote
Super User Sam Posted December 2, 2015 Super User Posted December 2, 2015 Once again, it highlights the fact that we are sitting ducks at the ramp and on the water. How many of us actually carry a sidearm? Very few as we are peace loving guys and gals who love to fish and do not think we are in danger at any time. We have to rethink the sidearm philosophy. This is a senseless crime, as stated above. One life lost and another destroyed by serving time. Sad state of affairs. 1 Quote
bassguytom Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 Just a really sad story all around. Sam's comment really makes me think. I never feel as if I'm in danger but you never really know. Quote
5 Dollar Fishing Game Posted December 2, 2015 Author Posted December 2, 2015 I'm always armed at the ramp and other places also. Wife as well. Too many crazies. 1 Quote
68camaro Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 25 years for point blank shooting a guy in the face and killing him is an insult and not justice served. Sounds like lazy prosecutor not going for longer or life. 1 Quote
Super User buzzed bait Posted December 2, 2015 Super User Posted December 2, 2015 stupid, senseless, all the words that won't bring the guy back.... and not to deter you from carrying when legal, but it is 100% illegal to carry on an army corps of engineers ramp.... Quote
5 Dollar Fishing Game Posted December 2, 2015 Author Posted December 2, 2015 Most ramps here in NC allow it. Especially if you still hold NC law enforcement certification. :-) Quote
5 Dollar Fishing Game Posted December 2, 2015 Author Posted December 2, 2015 In any other case just my humble opinion: "It is better to be tried by 12 than to be carried by 6." 2 Quote
Ski213 Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 Once again, it highlights the fact that we are sitting ducks at the ramp and on the water. How many of us actually carry a sidearm? Very few as we are peace loving guys and gals who love to fish and do not think we are in danger at any time. We have to rethink the sidearm philosophy. This is a senseless crime, as stated above. One life lost and another destroyed by serving time. Sad state of affairs. I totally agree. If you're going to carry know the rules of your jurisdiction and please understand safety and practices. It's a right and also a huge responsibility. Quote
Looking for the big one Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 Takahiro Omori has the right idea, getting a concealed handgun license. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 2, 2015 Global Moderator Posted December 2, 2015 The unfortunate thing is by the time he gets out this guy will have no future ahead of him. So what's he going to do? Statistics show he'll be right back out there committing crimes until he ends up back in prison. If there's no doubt that a person murdered another person in cold blood the only options a jury should have is needle or chair. 3 Quote
stkbassn Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 I totally agree. If you're going to carry know the rules of your jurisdiction and please understand safety and practices. It's a right and also a huge responsibility. To add to this. I think one should be allowed to own and possess a firearm once proven they are capable of handling one which means they can shoot accurately, know the law backwards and forwards, always have their license on them, psych evaluations are clean , know the weapon inside and out, etc. It's not a toy or an accessory folks. One shouldn't buy a purple gun because it's cute and matches their purse... The problem with "rights" is it gives license to any common idiot that wants one because it's their "right". " If you can have one so can I " is the sad mentality and a sad commentary on our society today. I won't go on because anything more would be considered political here. Agree or disagree, this is my opinion. Quote
Super User senile1 Posted December 2, 2015 Super User Posted December 2, 2015 The unfortunate thing is by the time he gets out this guy will have no future ahead of him. So what's he going to do? Statistics show he'll be right back out there committing crimes until he ends up back in prison. If there's no doubt that a person murdered another person in cold blood the only options a jury should have is needle or chair. I agree. There are times when people have been convicted on circumstantial evidence or evidence that wasn't solid, as exemplified by how many people have been eventually freed from unjust sentences by the Innocence Project. More than 300 have been exonerated after conviction by DNA analysis resulting from this organizaion's efforts. (This is a sad commentary on our justice system as well.) However, when the evidence is absolute, there is no doubt who the killer is, and the murder was intentional, that person should never see the light of day again. Quote
Super User senile1 Posted December 2, 2015 Super User Posted December 2, 2015 While I understand the desire to carry a sidearm for protection, keep in mind that you are probably more likely to be killed driving to the lake than you are by some deranged killer at the ramp. I typically research the statistics before I make such a statement, but something like this happens so rarely I am finding nothing on it in my cursory search so far. I just have a gut feeling that driving on the roads results in more deaths per the number of drivers than deaths per number of anglers at boat ramps. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted December 2, 2015 Super User Posted December 2, 2015 While I understand the desire to carry a sidearm for protection, keep in mind that you are probably more likely to be killed driving to the lake than you are by some deranged killer at the ramp. I typically research the statistics before I make such a statement, but something like this happens so rarely I am finding nothing on it in my cursory search so far. I just have a gut feeling that driving on the roads results in more deaths per the number of drivers than deaths per number of anglers at boat ramps. Agreed ~ But life is short & precious ~ peace of mind helps me enjoy it. A-Jay 3 Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted December 2, 2015 Super User Posted December 2, 2015 Fight crime, shoot back !!!!!!!!! 2 Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted December 2, 2015 Super User Posted December 2, 2015 In any other case just my humble opinion: "It is better to be tried by 12 than to be carried by 6." Yes. The firearm this SOB was carrying was 100% illegal too and the fisherman is dead forever. Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted December 2, 2015 Super User Posted December 2, 2015 While I understand the desire to carry a sidearm for protection, keep in mind that you are probably more likely to be killed driving to the lake than you are by some deranged killer at the ramp. I typically research the statistics before I make such a statement, but something like this happens so rarely I am finding nothing on it in my cursory search so far. I just have a gut feeling that driving on the roads results in more deaths per the number of drivers than deaths per number of anglers at boat ramps. But driving to the lake is necessary to fishing. It only takes once. We're always hearing about someone successfully defending their life with a firearm these days. I have been walked up on before by someone who gave me the feeling I was being sized up. But I was left alone, probably because I looked poor at the time. Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted December 2, 2015 Super User Posted December 2, 2015 While I understand the desire to carry a sidearm for protection, keep in mind that you are probably more likely to be killed driving to the lake than you are by some deranged killer at the ramp. I typically research the statistics before I make such a statement, but something like this happens so rarely I am finding nothing on it in my cursory search so far. I just have a gut feeling that driving on the roads results in more deaths per the number of drivers than deaths per number of anglers at boat ramps. There is no question that driving to the lake or a bad diet or many other things that most of us do on a regular basis is statistically more dangerous than time spent at the boat ramp. I ALWAYS carry when trailering my boat based on personal experience. I often fish at night, many times with my wife, and have had a couple of incidents that have convinced me that my responsibility to protect myself and those for whom I am responsible requires I do so. I take carrying a deadly weapon very seriously. My responsibility to be aware of my situation and avoid conflict is much greater when carrying. I also understand that for some an armed population is a frightening thing, and as mentioned above there are some who don't quite get that liberty and responsibility are fundamentally linked. The only thing that frightens me more than having to use deadly force is not having deadly force available to prevent its use on me or others. 4 Quote
C0lt Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 Considering that all convicts of second degree murder are eligible for parole, Im guessing this guy will be out in 11-14 years max. Johnson could have lived another 40 years. Thats what brown should be doing, minimum. prayers go out to the family. Quote
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