Puggz Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 You know how some spinnerbaits have an open eye (termination point) and others are closed. I prefer the closed as its slightly easier to tie... Am I missing anything? Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted November 26, 2015 Super User Posted November 26, 2015 doesn't matter to me, never noticed a difference in tying but i also don't throw them that often. Quote
badhatharry Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 I've had some break off when the line got wrapped around and pinched off. I always use the "R" bend type now. However, the guys that fish with wire leader will use the twist ties with snaps. Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 I prefer the R bend. Probably just a confidence thing. 1 Quote
Mumbly Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 I prefer the closed as well. Just personal preference I guess Quote
desmobob Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 I prefer the closed eye because I usually use the Mustard Fastach clips to attach my hardbaits. Most brands don't have them, unfortunately. Tight lines, Bob Quote
Super User Catt Posted November 26, 2015 Super User Posted November 26, 2015 Don't care one way or the other More concerned with blades & swivels 1 Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted November 26, 2015 Super User Posted November 26, 2015 If I'm ripping it through weeds give me a closed bend... if open water a R-bend. oe Quote
Ohio Archer Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 I have a bunch of both in the tackle box. Carry overs from my FL days of fishing in the grass. Either one is fine with me. Tying them isn't a problem as I use a Palomar knot 100% of the time. Casting the closed end in the wind can be annoying when they roll over but other than that I have no issues with either style. Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted November 26, 2015 BassResource.com Administrator Posted November 26, 2015 I prefer closed because you can use thinner wire, which results in more vibration. R-bend lures need thicker wires, relatively speaking. 1 Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted November 26, 2015 Super User Posted November 26, 2015 I'll always use the "R" bend after losing what was a very large fish because the line got caught in the loop. I make my own spinnerbaits from scratch and the wire I use is .032 for 1/2oz and 3/8oz baits and .035 for 1/2oz and heavier, and the only bait with a closed loop that I know of that uses thinner wire is the Picasso Inviz wire spinnerbait at .028 but it isn't SS but a special heat treated wire and the loop is coiled and not twisted. Other than that the closed loop and "R" bend wires are pretty much the same as most use either SS or piano wire in the .032 to .035 range. Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted November 26, 2015 BassResource.com Administrator Posted November 26, 2015 Ok, so if you want thinner wire, you either get closed loop, or make them yourself. I don't have enough talent to make them myself. Quote
Super User scaleface Posted November 26, 2015 Super User Posted November 26, 2015 I prefer the R type but use both. The reason is, I use the trilene knot most of the time . I found that the loop on spinnerbaits usually isnt tight and touching itself like on a split ring and after many cast can loosen the knot . No big problem because I just use a palomar on the looped ones . Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted November 26, 2015 Super User Posted November 26, 2015 I like closed loop the best. I take a small piece of shrink wrap & heat it to close the open loop design. It works like a charm. 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted November 27, 2015 Super User Posted November 27, 2015 Ok, so if you want thinner wire, you either get closed loop, or make them yourself. I don't have enough talent to make them myself. Buy Stanley Spinner Baits & you will have all the flash & vibration possible! Quote
Super User bigbill Posted November 27, 2015 Super User Posted November 27, 2015 Closed eye, I can't tie knots easily. I use ball bearing locking snap swivels. I have a hard time tying in the sunlit at night forget about it. I'm surprised the spinnerbait manufacturers haven't figured out they would get higher sales with closed eyes. I filled a box with Mann's classic spinnerbaits. Closed eyes. Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted November 27, 2015 Super User Posted November 27, 2015 I'm surprised the spinnerbait manufacturers haven't figured out they would get higher sales with closed eyes. They wouldn't. Most people don't use snap swivels on spinnerbaits. 3 Quote
Puggz Posted November 27, 2015 Author Posted November 27, 2015 Thanks everyone, lots to think about! Quote
tander Posted November 27, 2015 Posted November 27, 2015 I use both but I have had some of the r bend break on me. One of my favorie spinnerbaits, Mr. Hootie, uses the twisted eye and also old type rubber skirts. Quote
Will Wetline Posted November 28, 2015 Posted November 28, 2015 I prefer the R bend for the same reason as smalljaw67, because the line sometimes get caught in the coil of the closed eye style. I've been buying Barlow's painted spinnerbait heads for years now and assemble them. The wire diameters run heavier on these than other brands - .035 on 1/4 & 3/8 oz. and .040 on 1/2 oz. I've caught enough big, feisty smallies on these to know that they are quite capable of bending these heavier wires so I do not plan to lighten up any time soon! 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted November 28, 2015 Global Moderator Posted November 28, 2015 I like the R bend because I can tie them on faster but really don't care either way, I prefer the one that's getting bit. Quote
Josh Smith Posted November 28, 2015 Posted November 28, 2015 I find most spinnerbait brands I prefer have the closed loop. I've had knots slip down on the R bends before, too. Closed for me. Josh Quote
Super User MickD Posted November 28, 2015 Super User Posted November 28, 2015 I use mostly the R bend because that's the way Terminator makes them. I have transitioned to tying them directly to the line so they don't foul as they will with snaps. Only takes a few seconds longer. Quote
Super User Cgolf Posted November 28, 2015 Super User Posted November 28, 2015 While all I currently own is R bend because to be honest is all I have seen in stores, I would much prefer closed loop. I like to use either Norman speed clips or quickswirl snaps for cranks and would prefer that for spinnerbaits too. While I don't change baits a lot I like the convenience of a snap when you need to change baits quickly when working an area. Quote
Super User Gone_Phishin Posted November 28, 2015 Super User Posted November 28, 2015 If I'm fishing for pike, or waters that are predominantly filled with pike, then a closed loop: they are a necessity when fishing with a leader. Quote
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