Coyote, Big Coyote

[bigbill]

Sitting at the table at 11:30pm a coyote tripped my neighbors motion light. My three feral cats were outside somewhere. So far two showed up.

I need to ask the deep guys(game warden) if I can hunt them with a pellet pistol. Need to get rid of these yotes.

Its a growing problem.

I'm thinking yotes hunt in packs, howling means they got something. It was quiet all night.

[F14A-B]

I saw 2 coyotes this past winter chase/play (to kill) a feral cat in my cut corn field.. One coyote had a mangled leg ( unsure why ) there was about 8" of fresh snow.. After 20 minutes.. The cat lost.. It was a helluva show.

[Rick Howard]

Hunting them will not solve your issue. your best bet is to call a PROFESSIONAL trapper. They will be able to help you remove any residents. Also there is a reason those coyote choose to be there. The trapper should be able to help diagnose why those coyote are there and if possible you can remove those variables.

[clayton86]

I wouldn't use a pellet pistol unless it shoots crazy fast. In my the law is 600fps I believe and I haven't found a pistol that does that yet in the stores.

Buy one of ricks calls though if you want to hunt them.....

Trying to get ya a sale Rick lol

[F14A-B]

As far as I'm concerned, coys taking out ferals is a good thing.

[bigbill]

My third feral cat showed up. I adopted these three cats they rid my hobby farm of rodents, snakes, crows in my corn.

With the coyote around the deer herd might not show up at my moultrie feeder.

[clayton86]

Coyote won't run off the deer I'm sure he's been there you just now seen him. My woods is loaded with coyotes and fox enemies of each other and deer and turkey as well. It's 197acre lot I hunt they all are there together just don't let your deer sit over night if you can't find it.

[Raider Nation Fisher]

Hunting them will not solve your issue. your best bet is to call a PROFESSIONAL trapper. They will be able to help you remove any residents. Also there is a reason those coyote choose to be there. The trapper should be able to help diagnose why those coyote are there and if possible you can remove those variables.

I beg the differ. I find hunting them is quite effective in reducing their population. We have more of the dang things then you can shake a stick at down here.

[Rick Howard]

I am not going to argue. If what your doing works for you than keep it up. If you want to actually hear the merits of what I said I will share.

[clayton86]

Raider hosing the woods with your duel glocks with extended mags isn't hunting lol

[Raider Nation Fisher]

I am not going to argue. If what your doing works for you than keep it up. If you want to actually hear the merits of what I said I will share.

Im not trying to argue. I apologize if it came across that way. I'm just stating my opinion. I'm quite interested in hearing/reading what your method entails. Please, share it with me.

[clayton86]

Raider Rick knows his stuff I know him from another forum(coyote and fox hunting forum) I've had the pleasure of hunting with him on one occasion with another buddy but I puked all over our first set and when we got to our second something wasn't agreeing with me that night. He makes his own coyote calls as well.

[Raider Nation Fisher]

Raider Rick knows his stuff I know him from another forum(coyote and fox hunting forum) I've had the pleasure of hunting with him on one occasion with another buddy but I puked all over our first set and when we got to our second something wasn't agreeing with me that night. He makes his own coyote calls as well.

Sounds like I'm asking the right man for his opinion then.

[Rick Howard]

I just had to make sure.  For some reason I come across this subject often.  People have a notion about coyote and when it is challenged by fact they get pretty heated lol.

 

There is a lot of myth around coyote hunting.  Some of its portrayed by the hunters themselves.  Most of them like to think they are doing a service with good intent (they are normally new hunters).  Others just know that if they pitch hunting as a service it will grant them access to land.  The key is in the details of a coyote and without covering the biology of coyote its hard to answer fully.  I don't think you want to read my dribbling about coyote behavior and biology so my answers may seem vague.

 

Coyote learn to fast and they are too keen to be fooled by sustained hunting techniques to make a meaningful difference over time.    

 

There is a reason the coyote setup shop in one location and not another.  If you determine that what the reason is and remove it... they will likely leave.  That is not always doable.  I would not tell a cattle rancher to remove his cattle from the land to alleviate himself of coyote.  Maybe it a geological feature that just is not practical to remove either.  But if you can remove this hypothetical reason, than you stand a good chance of getting rid of your problem coyote, at least in part. 

 

Most people think of killing a coyote as reducing the population in the area by 1.  The truth is different.  If that coyote is a transient than a new one will fill that void quickly.  If it were part of a family unit "pack" than it will be a short lived deduction too.  You still have the rest of the family unit there and a new member will join the team and fill the void soon.

 

 A professional trapper ensures that a trap will continue to work 24/7 365.    This is better than any form of hunting effort.  A trap works where you can not discharge a firearm also.  

 

I am not saying the good hunters can not make a difference but the impact will likely be short lived or unnoticeable.  Where as a qualified trapper and if possible some land management will make a significant difference.

 

For the record I am not a trapper.  I have been calling coyote for 16 years though.  This will be my 17th year in January.  I get calls on occasion from land owners that heard from a friend of a friend that I may be able to help them with some coyote.    I give them the phone number of a trapper who certainly can.  I am very confident in my ability to call and kill coyote.  Some might say I am good at it.  I still know that I am limited in regards to how much impact I can have.  

[Raider Nation Fisher]

I just had to make sure.  For some reason I come across this subject often.  People have a notion about coyote and when it is challenged by fact they get pretty heated lol.

 

There is a lot of myth around coyote hunting.  Some of its portrayed by the hunters themselves.  Most of them like to think they are doing a service with good intent (they are normally new hunters).  Others just know that if they pitch hunting as a service it will grant them access to land.  The key is in the details of a coyote and without covering the biology of coyote its hard to answer fully.  I don't think you want to read my dribbling about coyote behavior and biology so my answers may seem vague.

 

Coyote learn to fast and they are too keen to be fooled by sustained hunting techniques to make a meaningful difference over time.    

 

There is a reason the coyote setup shop in one location and not another.  If you determine that what the reason is and remove it... they will likely leave.  That is not always doable.  I would not tell a cattle rancher to remove his cattle from the land to alleviate himself of coyote.  Maybe it a geological feature that just is not practical to remove either.  But if you can remove this hypothetical reason, than you stand a good chance of getting rid of your problem coyote, at least in part. 

 

Most people think of killing a coyote as reducing the population in the area by 1.  The truth is different.  If that coyote is a transient than a new one will fill that void quickly.  If it were part of a family unit "pack" than it will be a short lived deduction too.  You still have the rest of the family unit there and a new member will join the team and fill the void soon.

 

 A professional trapper ensures that a trap will continue to work 24/7 365.    This is better than any form of hunting effort.  A trap works where you can not discharge a firearm also.  

 

I am not saying the good hunters can not make a difference but the impact will likely be short lived or unnoticeable.  Where as a qualified trapper and if possible some land management will make a significant difference.

 

For the record I am not a trapper.  I have been calling coyote for 16 years though.  This will be my 17th year in January.  I get calls on occasion from land owners that heard from a friend of a friend that I may be able to help them with some coyote.    I give them the phone number of a trapper who certainly can.  I am very confident in my ability to call and kill coyote.  Some might say I am good at it.  I still know that I am limited in regards to how much impact I can have.

That definitely makes sense. I have never thought about it that way before. That is an extremely logical way of looking at the problem. I can definitely understand why you recommend using a trapper as opposed to hunting them. Everything I have read and researched on them has talked about how intelligent, and adaptable they are. Which falls right in line with what you are saying. Thank you for the response.

Also I would be more than interested in hearing your knowledge over coyotes. I am trying to learn as much about them as I can currently.

[Rick Howard]

Well ask me questions in the PM any time. If I have an answer I will gladly share it. They are fascinating critters to me also. By chance, are you trying to manage a property for game birds?

[Rick Howard]

Sorry, Bill. I have hijacked your thread.

[bigbill]

Bigger fish to fry my 400lb black bear is back. He's up in the watershed hootin tonight looking for a mate. Great.

[DogBone_384]

Is it worth investigating getting them relocated?  I don't kill it if I'm not going to eat it, but that's me.  

 

Another solution, if you want them gone that badly, is a nuisance permit.  An old GF's father owned a nursery where deer that ate upwards of $50K worth of Arborvitae annually. We hunted his property year round.

 

Good luck with them.

[bigbill]

My camp in vt is in the very populated bear area. I'm use to being around them. At home it's the same way. I educated the family to be aware of your surroundings. My misses was walking the dog tonight. She says there's the bear hootin in the back. He was non stop. They can't call 1-800-collect or use a dating hot line. I won't hurt him. Like vt we live with them. The big cold snap soon should put him asleep.

[F14A-B]

I shoot them every year.. I look out my window & see 100 cows. In Jan. & Feb. the Coys will be hot on the cattle.. Then again during calving.. They come back every year no matter how many we take out.. But it does disrupt them for a bit.

[bigbill]

Coyote ran the deer out of my land/area in vt. We had wall to wall deer. Then coyote tracks following every set of deer tracks. Now no deer tracks in the snow.

In ct I'm usually seeing my local deer herd so far no deer herd. I heard one run by the house but just one big yote and the bear. I won't put out the moultrie feeder till the bear is gone.

After feeding so many plump does last spring I'm waiting to see the year-ling fawns.