TheBigOne Posted November 7, 2015 Posted November 7, 2015 I have recently bought a kastking royale legend. It got overwhelming good feedback and is very cheap. I have been researching whether or not to put backing on my reel and have come up with mixed responses. So here is my question. I am going to put on around 40 pound braid on a Spool with holes, do I need backing? Thanks for the help. P.s. Do you think 200 yards of line is enough for a big red drum? Quote
John G Posted November 7, 2015 Posted November 7, 2015 I would use backing because I would not tie directly to the holes in my spool. All you need is a few handle turns of backing and then fill the rest with braid. Sure 200 yards is enough for a big Red Drum if you have a stout enough rod. Quote
Josh Smith Posted November 7, 2015 Posted November 7, 2015 Back with cheap mono and, as was said, don't tie to a hole. Josh 1 Quote
Super User gulfcaptain Posted November 8, 2015 Super User Posted November 8, 2015 Some don't tie, some do. Here is my take on that....do what you want. I put backing on mine but you can tie direct although I'd probably put one wrap of mono before the braid. If you're wondering why......Here's my answer. That 12lb mono will break a whole lot quicker then that 40lb braid just incase you hook into something that decides to take you to the knot. If you're worried about 200yrds being enough. I'd say yes. If he gets over 150yrds of line out and you haven't stopped him, well he's probably going to make that 200yrd mark or bust you off before hand. You can pull hard with 40lb braid, really hard. So short answer yes to both. Quote
Josh Smith Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 Why not tie through a hole? Like GulfCaptain said. Though here it's a lot more theory than fact, and I use high-capacity reels. Were I using lighter low-profile reels, I'd be slightly concerned about long-running critters. A lot more probable in the South, though, than here. Regards, Josh Quote
Tim Kelly Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 Seriously, a red drum could get 200 yards away from you? Surely if you've that little control you're unlikely to land it whether you've got backing or not. Quote
John G Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 Seriously, a red drum could get 200 yards away from you? Surely if you've that little control you're unlikely to land it whether you've got backing or not. The OP said big Red Drum. Little Red Drum and big Red Drum are not like little or big LMB. If he goes out there and he hooks into a 50# Red Drum with a medium powered bass rod, he is screwed. Quote
Josh Smith Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 Would backing save him? Might just save the reel. Josh Quote
TheBigOne Posted November 8, 2015 Author Posted November 8, 2015 Thank for the input. I am definitely gonna put some low test mono before the backing. Hopefully I won't get spooled by anything in the first place. Quote
desmobob Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 Would backing save him? No, but it would probably save the spool and/or reel from getting wrecked by forty pounds of pull through the holes in the spool... Better safe than sorry! Tight lines, Bob Quote
TheBigOne Posted November 8, 2015 Author Posted November 8, 2015 Also my reel gas 12 pounds of drag. So that will help. I'm really impressed with it so far. Here's a link if you want to check it out. KastKing Royale Legend High Speed Profile Baitcasting Fishing Reel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010MAVNYY/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_3k2pwb82QBX23 Quote
Robert Riley Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Due to braid having a tendency to cut into itself, I just mono of the same diameter for backing. I believe that the same diameter is important when tying the connecting knot, but I'm a fisherman and superstitious. I also only put on about 60-80 yards of my main line, I bass fish in the Midwest, so we just flip and generally boat flip the bass. If we have a bass that can run that far, we have many other problems on our hands. Quote
Super User Montanaro Posted November 9, 2015 Super User Posted November 9, 2015 Lay braid on spool and put electrical tape over it. Tape wont allow the braid to spin on spool and lets your line lay more evenly than if you had a knot. 2 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted November 9, 2015 Super User Posted November 9, 2015 Lay braid on spool and put electrical tape over it. Tape wont allow the braid to spin on spool and lets your line lay more evenly than if you had a knot. This si the simplest, and most elegant solution. I've stopped using backing. The knot bugs me, and can be problematic. I'd rather have a full spool of braid. In the scheme of it all...$10 to $15 of "wasted" braid isn't all that much. To me, it's not wasted, though. Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted November 9, 2015 Global Moderator Posted November 9, 2015 Lay braid on spool and put electrical tape over it. Tape wont allow the braid to spin on spool and lets your line lay more evenly than if you had a knot. Ditto Quote
PourMyOwn Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 This si the simplest, and most elegant solution. I've stopped using backing. The knot bugs me, and can be problematic. I'd rather have a full spool of braid. In the scheme of it all...$10 to $15 of "wasted" braid isn't all that much. To me, it's not wasted, though. Just wind it from one reel to another when you want to switch it out. It puts the old braid on the inside of the spool and the braid that's still good gets used. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted November 9, 2015 Super User Posted November 9, 2015 Just wind it from one reel to another when you want to switch it out. It puts the old braid on the inside of the spool and the braid that's still good gets used. There usually isn't enough there to fill a spool after all the reties, so I discard the old stuff. Like I said, I'm not hard up for the few bucks a fresh spool costs, especially since a spool generally lasts me at least two seaons. 1 Quote
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