Fat-G Posted February 2, 2010 Posted February 2, 2010 I still have the itch to learn how to pour some baits. My obvious choice is a Senko. I was looking around and found this "mold". I have no idea what or how to use it, it just shows a picture of the product. Anyone knows how to use this mold, or what it even looks like? Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted February 2, 2010 Super User Posted February 2, 2010 Is it a one piece, 2 piece, pour, or injection? Quote
Fat-G Posted February 3, 2010 Author Posted February 3, 2010 Is it a one piece, 2 piece, pour, or injection? Oh lord, I'm sorry. I forgot to attach the link! Hahaha stupid! http://www.lurecraft.com/catalog.cfm/molds/plastic-molds/worms/5x644:2260 Quote
Jeff C. Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 its a 1 pc. mold that lays flat on the table. It is made of soft resin.The worm will have a flat side on it. It is a very good mold to start with.. for $ 8.80 thats cheap.. Aluminum 2 pc molds make a nicer worm but are very costly. apx. $ 100.00. you also will need... plastic,,,, coloring,,,,,salt,,,glitter...and some other stuff and its all avail from L.C. @ the link you posted. Quote
davehu Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 rtv molds are a good way to start. lc has made some custom rtv molds for me. great people to deal with. i would use a cheap micro wave and the small pirex cup and start with about 4oz of plastic. its easier to poor with the small cup when first learning. also lc 502 plastic is the best. no bubbles no matter how much you shake it.just need to scrap the bottom of the jug to get anything that settles before you shake the jug to mix. or you can take some worms you got laying around and melt them. start at about min and 30 seconds them 30seconds at a time to get it melted. also good ventilation helps or a fan in the window. i learned how to pour with old worms i had. Quote
Fat-G Posted February 5, 2010 Author Posted February 5, 2010 rtv molds are a good way to start. lc has made some custom rtv molds for me. great people to deal with. i would use a cheap micro wave and the small pirex cup and start with about 4oz of plastic. its easier to poor with the small cup when first learning. also lc 502 plastic is the best. no bubbles no matter how much you shake it.just need to scrap the bottom of the jug to get anything that settles before you shake the jug to mix. or you can take some worms you got laying around and melt them. start at about min and 30 seconds them 30seconds at a time to get it melted. also good ventilation helps or a fan in the window. i learned how to pour with old worms i had. Thanks guys. What kind of plastic and will I have to use any softener? Quote
LHC - Bank Robber Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 I cant speak for that mold but I have and use the 4inch senko type mold, and it works. I use the med 502 plastic from lurecraft, you really wont need softener but you may want some its kinda personal prefference. For this mold I dont use it as I fish them mostly on shaky heads. But for completly round sticks I do use it, just in case I want to wacky rig em. I gotta warn you if you do get into pouring baits, its very addictive. Quote
River Rat316 Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 Agreed on the addictive part, in the end if your sole purpose is to save $$ don't do it. But if you want custom colors, fall rates and the like then go for it, its also a great way to "waste" time when you are not on the lake Quote
davehu Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 i have made 1000's of baits with 502. if you use the stick recipe on delmarts site you will need softener. but worms and and other bait 502 is all you need. i make tubes so i do use the lc hard plastic. i have some soft but its just to soft for me. like i said with 502 you have to scrape the bottom of the jug. i use an old arrow shaft. i also store the jug upside down and the hardener settles to the cap and just use an ice pick to break it up before i shake it, you have to mix it well. other plastics may work good and i have tryed a bunch of differant kinds but for the micro wave lc 502 blows them all away. i would at least get a gallon because once you get the hang of it you will be a pouring fool.lol Quote
davehu Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 also before you start pouring sticks just get a curl tail worm mold to start with it just to get the hang of it. when making sticks you use salt and have to stir alot and its good to know your miro wave because of re heating it. but hey you can just jump in and start with stick baits. i use delts fine salt. bear also has salt. Quote
Fat-G Posted February 5, 2010 Author Posted February 5, 2010 Thanks! I was also looking at this mold: http://www.del-mart.com/shop/product.php?productid=16450&cat=285&page=1 This one would be a lot more efficient for quantity. Anyone have any experience with these? Quote
Fat-G Posted February 5, 2010 Author Posted February 5, 2010 I think I'm starting to figure this out. I want to put up a list of items that I need, just add anything you want. 1. Aluminum mold from Del-Mart (still deciding which one) 2. 502 Plastic from LureCraft (gallon) 3. Microwave (got that) 4. Pirex Cups 5. Colors 6. Glitter 7. Anise 8. Old screwdriver to stir with 9. Salt (is normal table salt okay?) 10. Bunch of bags for the lures! Quote
davehu Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 not sure about table salt. i think i read no iodine salt. i use to have that mold easy to pour. i have lc rtv mold just like it somewhere i will sell it cheap. on my trick worm recipe in 4oz of plastic i use 20 dashes of salt dels salt and lc measuring spoons. these are a must for glitter and salt and hilite powders. i use a half of cap of softener and they sink just like the zoom trick. put glitter in after you cook plastic and color in before. the anise from lc sucks. i buy pure anise online. i think bear sells the good stuff.when using salt stir alot.sounds like alot to do but once you get the hang of it it is pretty easy. and write down any recipe you make or you will forget them. Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted February 5, 2010 Super User Posted February 5, 2010 G you better add some heat stabilizer in your order. Quote
Fat-G Posted February 5, 2010 Author Posted February 5, 2010 G you better add some heat stabilizer in your order. What's that? Hahaha I sound like a little kid. Quote
Fat-G Posted February 5, 2010 Author Posted February 5, 2010 not sure about table salt. i think i read no iodine salt. i use to have that mold easy to pour. i have lc rtv mold just like it somewhere i will sell it cheap. on my trick worm recipe in 4oz of plastic i use 20 dashes of salt dels salt and lc measuring spoons. these are a must for glitter and salt and hilite powders. i use a half of cap of softener and they sink just like the zoom trick. put glitter in after you cook plastic and color in before. the anise from lc sucks. i buy pure anise online. i think bear sells the good stuff.when using salt stir alot.sounds like alot to do but once you get the hang of it it is pretty easy. and write down any recipe you make or you will forget them. What is a good recipe for 5 inck stick baits? How much salt, coloring, flake, scent, etc should I add? Quote
davehu Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 this is the one i use. i use lc 502 and calhoun softtener. on the colors and glitter it depends on what colr bait you want to make In a 2 cup pyrex measuring cup mix: 1 cups of Calhoun Plastic. 1/4 cup Calhoun Softener Add colors (before heat or after) put in the microwave till the plastic is ready to pour (follow the microwave instructions) then take a teaspoon and slowly stir while adding in 1/2 cup of salt (salt works best when its gound in a blender tp a light powder). when everything is mixed thourghly put back in microwave and heat and stir in 30 second intervals until plastic is hot and the consistantsy you want. Pour from measuring cup stirring after every 1-3 cavities Quote
Carrington Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 just make your own mold lol, thats what i did, i made a 3 senko mold so i could pour 3 senkos at one time. just buy 2 jugs of plaster of paris mold stuff. then buy some cheap alluminum cooking pans. put about .5 inch plaster of paris and let it set up slightly, then lay 3 senkos in it and push the senkos half way into the plaster of paris. wait a day for teh stuff to dry and then pour a top layer over the senkos and let that dry for a day and woolah you now have a perfect 2 part mold if you made it right. all you need to do now is drill out the pour holes and air escape holes in the bottem. hope that helped. but its a cheap way to make you own mold for under $10.00. Quote
Fat-G Posted February 6, 2010 Author Posted February 6, 2010 just make your own mold lol, thats what i did, i made a 3 senko mold so i could pour 3 senkos at one time. just buy 2 jugs of plaster of paris mold stuff. then buy some cheap alluminum cooking pans. put about .5 inch plaster of paris and let it set up slightly, then lay 3 senkos in it and push the senkos half way into the plaster of paris. wait a day for teh stuff to dry and then pour a top layer over the senkos and let that dry for a day and woolah you now have a perfect 2 part mold if you made it right. all you need to do now is drill out the pour holes and air escape holes in the bottem. hope that helped. but its a cheap way to make you own mold for under $10.00. Good idea, I'll have to try that. Quote
Jeff C. Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 Fat-G, did you see where I asked Del about making the combo mold for you ?? Quote
Fat-G Posted February 6, 2010 Author Posted February 6, 2010 Fat-G, did you see where I asked Del about making the combo mold for you ?? I did. Thank you very much! The only problem is that I really don't have a lot of money right now (saving for a first car ;D) and I still need a spinning rod. I think for now, I'll just buy my plastics. When I have all my rods/reels bought and am where I want to be with tackle, I will definitely give it a try. Thank you for all the help guys, I saved this post to my favorites for future use! Quote
Jeff C. Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 No problem. It does cost a bunch to get started pouring & even more if you want aluminum molds. Quote
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