Super User scaleface Posted November 4, 2015 Super User Posted November 4, 2015 I have a canoe, a small plastic two man boat and a 22 foot Lowe deck boat .I have access to several canoes and kayaks . At a local lake with a good bass population . no boats are allowed except for 14 foot jon's supplied by the conservation dept. Ive owned three bass boats in the past . My wife wanted a pontoon so we compromised and bought the deck boat ..It has the same hull as the 22 foot inland boats , so it fishes quite well . 24 volt trolling motor , depth finders and livewell . Its fun to take out but if I really want to have a great day fishing , I'll leave it at home and fish waters where it wont go . Bass are found everywhere. Fishing for unpressured bass is a lot of fun. I do still enjoy the challenge of finding and catching bass on the heavily fished reservoir . but the older I get the more I want to be away from the noise and crowds . Quote
BassMaster17 Posted November 4, 2015 Posted November 4, 2015 So what is it that you didn't like about the boats you fished out of? Too much room for you and your stuff? Too easy to get from spot to spot? I'm not a fan of kayaks. I float rivers in a personal pontoon. I can stop and hold myself just by putting my feet down, I can spin around on a dime, there is nothing more stable, I can transport it in the trunk of a car, and it is very comfortable. I don't want a "challenge" when I'm fishing. I get enough challenges at work. I'm looking for fun, a nice day on the water and a chance to catch some fish. Some days, lakes give me my best chance to do well. That's when I take the boat. I can cover a lot of water without a lot of energy in comfort. On days when the river is my best shot, I float in the pontoon. how small can it be that you can fit in a trunk! Quote
Super User Scott F Posted November 4, 2015 Super User Posted November 4, 2015 how small can it be that you can fit in a trunk! The pontoons are 9 feet long but they are inflatable. Once you let the air out and take the frame apart, they fold up pretty small. Quote
Sandhillcrab Posted November 4, 2015 Author Posted November 4, 2015 So what is it that you didn't like about the boats you fished out of? Too much room for you and your stuff? Too easy to get from spot to spot? I'm not a fan of kayaks. I float rivers in a personal pontoon. I can stop and hold myself just by putting my feet down, I can spin around on a dime, there is nothing more stable, I can transport it in the trunk of a car, and it is very comfortable. I don't want a "challenge" when I'm fishing. I get enough challenges at work. I'm looking for fun, a nice day on the water and a chance to catch some fish. Some days, lakes give me my best chance to do well. That's when I take the boat. I can cover a lot of water without a lot of energy in comfort. On days when the river is my best shot, I float in the pontoon. I can't fish in a boat with a moter. It gives me headaches. Quote
Super User WIGuide Posted November 4, 2015 Super User Posted November 4, 2015 I'm a boat guy all the way. Kayak's are cool, and I wouldn't mind having one, but it's uses for me would be very limited. There's a lot of smaller lakes around me, but almost all of them have a ramp of some kind that you can get a boat in. Although there's certain areas I may not be able to get into with my boat (it can get into a lot of places people don't think it could) I can get to areas you couldn't in a kayak just because I can cover more ground. There are advantages for both, and cons to both, but for me the boat has more pro's than cons. OP is it the noise of an outboard that gives you the headaches? If so try getting in a boat with a 4 stroke. They're much quieter. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted November 4, 2015 Super User Posted November 4, 2015 I don't think the attraction is all about accessibility to remote places. Certainly, there's a closeness to the water, and what is happening around you that I don't get in a bass boat. I also fish slower. I don't mean I slow down, I mean I cover water slower, and more thoroughly. I can't tell you how many things I've found graphing when going from spot to spot - things I never knew were there. I wouldn't have seen them at all running 80 mph in the Bullet. 1 Quote
Super User WIGuide Posted November 4, 2015 Super User Posted November 4, 2015 I don't think the attraction is all about accessibility to remote places. Certainly, there's a closeness to the water, and what is happening around you that I don't get in a bass boat. I also fish slower. I don't mean I slow down, I mean I cover water slower, and more thoroughly. I can't tell you how many things I've found graphing when going from spot to spot - things I never knew were there. I wouldn't have seen them at all running 80 mph in the Bullet. I can see where some might feel closer and more connected with what's going on around them that's definitely an advantage. As far as how quickly you cover an area though, can't you do the same in you Bullet by fishing things more thoroughly instead of zipping through a stretch of water? Also I know it's a Bullet so its two speeds are fishing and WOT, but you could also find the same spots you're talking about in the kayak by idling around or from spot to spot. I know where you're coming from that it both of those might come more naturally when you're in your kayak because you're limited on how large of an area you can fish and limited in speed to, but you can easily fish the same way out of a bass boat too. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted November 4, 2015 Super User Posted November 4, 2015 I *can* idle around, but in practice, that's limited when I'm on lakes I *think* I know. The point is, I see things in the kayak without trying. It's inherent to the activity. With fishing, I generally live in the moment, so I'm probably not going to stop, turn off the big motor, get up front, drop the troller, grab a rod, and test a theory based on a blip on the radar every time. In a kayak, it's as simple as putting the paddle down and grabbing a rod to make a cast. I think it's a misnomer to assume that idling at 3-5 mph with a purpose is the same as wandering over an area with a kayak. Yes you can slow down, but it's not the same. Just like the opposite. I can generally cover 6-8 miles in a trip in my kayak. I probably cover the aboiut the same fishing in the bass boat, while there's the additional water covered not fishing, but going from spot to spot. I have both, to compare the two isn't false, but the if you've spent a legitimate amount of time in both, they contrast more than compare. 1 Quote
Sandhillcrab Posted November 5, 2015 Author Posted November 5, 2015 I'm a boat guy all the way. Kayak's are cool, and I wouldn't mind having one, but it's uses for me would be very limited. There's a lot of smaller lakes around me, but almost all of them have a ramp of some kind that you can get a boat in. Although there's certain areas I may not be able to get into with my boat (it can get into a lot of places people don't think it could) I can get to areas you couldn't in a kayak just because I can cover more ground. There are advantages for both, and cons to both, but for me the boat has more pro's than cons. OP is it the noise of an outboard that gives you the headaches? If so try getting in a boat with a 4 stroke. They're much quieter. All boat moters so. I'm not sure why. Even trolling moters do. I Quote
bigfruits Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 another benefit of a kayak or canoe is fishing streams or shallow rivers (new river!). you can get through a class 2 rapid on a good day and portage the sketchy ones. shuttling up river and camping on the way back down to the car makes for a great weekend. a kayak is more of an adventure, you creep up on more animals, notice more going on around you. its my religion. bass boat is great for covering water, tournament fishing, better when windy, better view radius, i can jerk my rod downwards.... different animals. wish i had both. Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted November 5, 2015 Super User Posted November 5, 2015 All boat moters so. I'm not sure why. Even trolling moters do. I I'm not being a wise guy, but I'd talk to my doctor about that. It could be a frequency, or harmonics, or perhaps an inner ear thing. I can understand the noisy two cycle engine causing headaches, but a four cycle engine?????? Do you get headaches when riding in an automobile or pickup truck? I've been on a couple of bass boats with four cycles and the noise created by the boat moving across the water drowns (pun intended) out what little hum the four cycle produces. Try earplugs, or noise cancelling head phones. You might be hyper sensitive to exhaust fumes, but that wouldn't apply to a trolling motor. When you have your next physical, talk to your doctor about the headaches. 1 Quote
bassr95 Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 I've never fished from a kayak, but it seems like sitting on the water would be inconvenient for casting and retrieving lures. I hate sitting on my pedestal seat, and that is still much higher than you sit in a kayak. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted November 5, 2015 Super User Posted November 5, 2015 I generally stand, irrespective of what boat I'm in. 1 Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted November 5, 2015 Super User Posted November 5, 2015 Casting while sitting is not a problem. It's a matter of preferences. But, if you do sight fishing you have a better view of the bottom, the higher you get. That is an advantage, particularly on waters you do not know well. On water with poor visibility it doesn't make much difference. On the other hand, kayaks and canoes have a stealth advantage due to their low profile. Quote
Sandhillcrab Posted November 5, 2015 Author Posted November 5, 2015 I'm not being a wise guy, but I'd talk to my doctor about that. It could be a frequency, or harmonics, or perhaps an inner ear thing. I can understand the noisy two cycle engine causing headaches, but a four cycle engine?????? Do you get headaches when riding in an automobile or pickup truck? I've been on a couple of bass boats with four cycles and the noise created by the boat moving across the water drowns (pun intended) out what little hum the four cycle produces. Try earplugs, or noise cancelling head phones. You might be hyper sensitive to exhaust fumes, but that wouldn't apply to a trolling motor. When you have your next physical, talk to your doctor about the headaches. I'm trying to still figure it out. And some cars I do. Most I don't. It's weird. I haven't tried ear plugs yet. I may try that. Quote
Sandhillcrab Posted November 5, 2015 Author Posted November 5, 2015 I generally stand, irrespective of what boat I'm in. So do I. I have a kyack that I can stand in. And I do love it. Quote
Dye99 Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 Tupperware navy, tried and true. I stick to my yaks. 1 Quote
Fin Stalker Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 So do I. I have a kyack that I can stand in. And I do love it. KAYAK not KYACK MOTOR not MOTER Spell check dude. Quote
Super User WRB Posted November 5, 2015 Super User Posted November 5, 2015 For a long time I owned 2 boats, 14' Lund aluminum w/15 hp OB set up, as a bass boat with my older paper graph/ fish finder and bow trolling motor, my other boat was a 19' either a Ranger or Skeeter w/200 hp OB and newest electronics etc, depending on what years between 1980 to 2005. The aluminum allowed me to go places I wouldn't go with a expensive heavy bass rig and small lakes with hp restrictions. In 2005 I sold both boats and now have a 17' 6" Triton bass boat w/115 hp, only fish 1 lake today, this fits into my garage. Kayaks are very versitile boats and very popular, however limited in where, who you can fish with and when you can fish regarding weather and distance...takes a different mine set. Tom 1 Quote
Sandhillcrab Posted November 5, 2015 Author Posted November 5, 2015 KAYAK not KYACK MOTOR not MOTER Spell check dude. I apologize.. I type farly fast. Don't really look to see any mistakes. Quote
Fin Stalker Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 I apologize.. I type farly fast. Don't really look to see any mistakes. No worries. I've seen a few full on lectures about grammar on different forums and one of them here. Although I did want to call you on it I didn't want to embarrass you too badly. 1 Quote
bigfruits Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 Kayaks are very versitile boats and very popular, however limited in where, who you can fish with and when you can fish regarding weather and distance...takes a different mine set. that's why I bought a new kayak this year. needed my old boat to become a loaner! Quote
Super User J Francho Posted November 5, 2015 Super User Posted November 5, 2015 I apologize.. I type farly fast. Don't really look to see any mistakes. I fix titles when I see errors, otherwise, it's no big deal. I only bother fixing the titles so the search engine can find topics easily. 1 Quote
Sandhillcrab Posted November 5, 2015 Author Posted November 5, 2015 No worries. I've seen a few full on lectures about grammar on different forums and one of them here. Although I did want to call you on it I didn't want to embarrass you too badly. No. Your good. Thanks for pointing that out. I'll do my best to fix most. Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted November 5, 2015 Super User Posted November 5, 2015 Tupperware navy, tried and true. I stick to my yaks. Yackity Yaks? http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=yakety+yak+don't+talk+back&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=847BC1C0FF6E36AA8AAF847BC1C0FF6E36AA8AAF Quote
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