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Yes, you can throw it on a casting set up, but there is a problem.  The problem is that the jigs that are made to fish things like a ned rig are made with Aberdeen hooks, they are designed to bend when hard, steady pressure is applied to free from snags and then you bend them straight again and fished with the prober tackle you normally won't bend one, even on big fish. I make small hair jigs on a size 2 Aberdeen hook and I've landed smallmouth over 5lbs and I was sent a picture from a friend that landed a 6lb 10oz fish on a 1/32oz  marabou jig with a size #4 Aberdeen hook that I made for him. The reason was the proper tackle was used and so throwing a ned rig on a medium light or BFS casting rod with a BFS casting reel with maybe 10lb or 15lb braid with a 6lb or 8lb fluorocarbon or mono leader is great but most will throw it on a medium or medium heavy casting rod with 30lb brad and a 12lb fluorocarbon leader and then blame the jig when the hook bends from pulling a fish in. I see experienced anglers with light rigs using casting rods and I think that is great but when you use a ned rig with a casting set up remember what kind of rig it is and the type of hook it uses, because the entire thing may be heavy enough for casting but it may not be stout enough. The other example is the spy bait like the Duo Realis Spinbait 80, it is 3/8oz but it doesn't mean you throw it on a medium heavy rod with 12lb to 14lb line, in fact the bait doesn't work great with 10lb line and even 8lb slows down the subtle action, most recommend 4 to 6lb to be optimum with a spinning set up but you can throw it with a casting rod but the bait loses the very subtle action it has.

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I had my friend Tim over for a couple of days fishing, we were foiled at every turn by bizarre circumstances and adverse weather, but he did get this twenty pound class pike on Saturday morning, just about dawn. Took a TRD with a 3/32 head and a size 2 hook. light spinning gear. funnily enough the hook was nearly straight when I scooped it into the net for him. :)

 

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  • Super User
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I spent some time tossing a 1/8 0zjig head with a Z-Man TRD on a Diawa Pixy68 SPR mounted on an *** 6'10" ML/F casting rod for a while this morning. Didn't catch squat, but, YES, you can toss NED rigs on a bait cast setup.

  • Super User
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I spent some time tossing a 1/8 0zjig head with a Z-Man TRD on a Diawa Pixy68 SPR mounted on an *** 6'10" ML/F casting rod for a while this morning. Didn't catch squat, but, YES, you can toss NED rigs on a bait cast setup.

As I mentioned the TRD worm is 4.5 grams. So with a 1/8 head you are looking at 7.7 grams total weight. That's over 1/4oz. Not a hard feat for any casting reel or medium light powered rod. Still curious why a lot of people seem to think it's such a tough thing. I use a PX68 and 7'1 ml for my combo. If a combo can throw a weightless 4" stick worm it should be able to toss a Ned rig far enough to catch fish.

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Certainly not. Only Z-man brand products for the Ned rig, which includes line, reel, rod, and in some cases, watercraft.

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As I mentioned the TRD worm is 4.5 grams. So with a 1/8 head you are looking at 7.7 grams total weight. That's over 1/4oz. Not a hard feat for any casting reel or medium light powered rod. Still curious why a lot of people seem to think it's such a tough thing. I use a PX68 and 7'1 ml for my combo. If a combo can throw a weightless 4" stick worm it should be able to toss a Ned rig far enough to catch fish.

 

Scales don't lie....  If I get out again this year, I'll try some of my trout baits to see what happens.

  • Super User
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The ? Is: should a Ned rig be used with a bait caster? The simple answer is no.

When lure weights drop below 1/8 oz, spinning tackle is appropriate.

We don't always fish under ideal conditions, wind affects casting with a light weight lure.

Tom

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I only throw then on a bait caster when there is 20mph headwinds on the river ;)

Just like p-----g into the wind!

Tom

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I have an old Daiwa PMF1000 baitcaster and I have it on a ml cheapo Daiwa rod about 6.5 feet. With Stren 8/10 pound line it easily throws lightweight lures including these ned rigs. I was told by a fellow it would not and then to his surprise I was throwing just about as far and as well as he using spinning gear. And, we were not really needing to cast all that far. 

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