Super User bigbill Posted November 8, 2015 Super User Posted November 8, 2015 If you ever want to have some real competition get a few buddies. You each get a dozen of worms and have a panfishing tournament. We do this once in a while it's a blast. Quote
fish devil Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 "Ike" Mike Iaconelli fishes winter league tournaments here in South Jersey against us regular fishermen. Â He does not win all the time. So anything is possible. Quote
Super User bigbill Posted November 8, 2015 Super User Posted November 8, 2015 You can be as good as you want to be. They are men like us. They maybe icons or gods to us. I think it would be fun to fish with them. Quote
Super User Ratherbfishing Posted November 9, 2015 Super User Posted November 9, 2015 Not most of the time, no. Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted November 9, 2015 Super User Posted November 9, 2015 I bet if KVD is reading this right now, with some of the comments, he is probably shaking with fear right now. Wait,....that shaking isn't fear, .....he's laughing his head off. Hootie Quote
Super User scaleface Posted November 9, 2015 Super User Posted November 9, 2015 Good thing Bryan Kerchal didnt have that "no way i can do it attitude. " 2 Quote
stkbassn Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 I don't know if this is arrogance or ignorance.  How about engineers? CEOs? Doctors?  Some simply don't have an overwhelming desire to compete.  Something we learned in martial arts: No matter how good one is, there is always someone better.  Josh  And some just can't admit when they don't have what it takes. As far as I know, unless you're a pro and operating under an alias here you aren't going to win the battle against the likes of KVD. To me, I'm not the one being arrogant or ignorant on this thread, quite the opposite in fact. I would accept the challenge but not expect to win. It has nothing to do with my attitude, just my grasp on reality. Some don't have that. Quote
kikstand454 Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 Is it possible? Certainly! Any given day, any set of variables......even a mostly novice fisherman could have a shot. Anything is possible. PROBABLE??? Hardly. Consistently? No chance. Consistancy is the real strength of the pros. Sure....all of us have had 20# days. Some of us may have 20# stretches....... But these guys have to have 4 straight days of 15# bags, every weekend, all year....all over the country....in all conditions. Just to make enough money to get to the next tourney. 1 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted November 10, 2015 Super User Posted November 10, 2015 Is it possible? Certainly! Any given day, any set of variables......even a mostly novice fisherman could have a shot. Anything is possible. PROBABLE??? Hardly. Â .... But these guys have to have 4 straight days of 15# bags, every weekend, all year....all over the country....in all conditions. Just to make enough money to get to the next tourney. No they dont . Quote
Super User Catt Posted November 10, 2015 Super User Posted November 10, 2015 Is it possible? Certainly! Any given day, any set of variables......even a mostly novice fisherman could have a shot. Anything is possible. PROBABLE??? Hardly. Consistently? No chance. Consistancy is the real strength of the pros. Sure....all of us have had 20# days. Some of us may have 20# stretches....... But these guys have to have 4 straight days of 15# bags, every weekend, all year....all over the country....in all conditions. Just to make enough money to get to the next tourney. What you remember is Kevin's 20 wins 4 of which were Classic wins but what you don't remember is his 260 loses! Kevin's best 5 bass stringer on Toledo Bend was 17.17 which in almost every tournament I know of would not place you in the money. 1 Quote
bigbassin' Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 I'm shocked at how little confidence a lot of y'all have. If you fished against him 1000 times on a random body of water neither of you have been on, he'd probably win a good chunk of time, but there are so many factors outside his control that you would win from time to time. 2 Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted November 10, 2015 Super User Posted November 10, 2015 Bass don't bite the reel they bite the bait. That being said I would take the challenge just to have a chance to fish with KVD. 1 Quote
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted November 10, 2015 Super User Posted November 10, 2015 Thats my point his feel good spots are running and gunning.none of us can do that as well as he does it.For him thats his advantage.but it all stops there unless he finds a sweet spot he has to travel its in his mind set.i can stay on a pond and if its a competition i can catch every bass at each pond for 5 days and have my limit all the while he will HAVE too do it 20.its in his blood Quote
Josh Smith Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 And some just can't admit when they don't have what it takes. As far as I know, unless you're a pro and operating under an alias here you aren't going to win the battle against the likes of KVD. To me, I'm not the one being arrogant or ignorant on this thread, quite the opposite in fact. I would accept the challenge but not expect to win. It has nothing to do with my attitude, just my grasp on reality. Some don't have that.  If a person is able to think and pattern, and has the time to practice on the water, he stands a pretty good chance.  I will not limit my own abilities in anything due to what others think I can do. I'll reach my own limits and exceed them.  I've debated participation in local tournaments. I like camaraderie. I do not like ego, and I despise hero worship.  Never have I liked folks telling me what I can't do. Chances are I'll turn around and do it to prove them wrong.  You're safe in this argument because it's hypothetical. Mr. KVD is likely too busy doing what he does to stop and fish with any one of us. I've never liked people who argue hypotheticals as a sure thing as a way to look smart without facing the possibility of losing that argument.  I'm sure you're a good enough guy in your way. You rub me wrong, though, and I'm really sorry for that. I'll find out if this forum has an "ignore" button feature, and if so, I'll use it so as to prevent future misunderstandings.  Regards,  Josh Quote
stkbassn Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015  If a person is able to think and pattern, and has the time to practice on the water, he stands a pretty good chance.  I will not limit my own abilities in anything due to what others think I can do. I'll reach my own limits and exceed them.  I've debated participation in local tournaments. I like camaraderie. I do not like ego, and I despise hero worship.  Never have I liked folks telling me what I can't do. Chances are I'll turn around and do it to prove them wrong.  You're safe in this argument because it's hypothetical. Mr. KVD is likely too busy doing what he does to stop and fish with any one of us. I've never liked people who argue hypotheticals as a sure thing as a way to look smart without facing the possibility of losing that argument.  I'm sure you're a good enough guy in your way. You rub me wrong, though, and I'm really sorry for that. I'll find out if this forum has an "ignore" button feature, and if so, I'll use it so as to prevent future misunderstandings.  Regards,  Josh You don't exactly give me the warm and fuzzies either. I didn't start the thread by the way and you've responded on here as well so you are also arguing "hypotheticals" by being part of it. KVD is not my hero, I don't have any. I just know where I sit on the food chain no matter what romantic and naive ideas might be floating around in my head from time to time. So what if I win one or two battles against KVD or any pro, it proves absolutely NOTHING and I won't be walking away with my chest puffed out like I've accomplished something. I am still not that good and no matter how much I believe in myself after watching after school specials I know I can't attain his level of greatness. I'm good with that. Ignore away. I do have a smart mouth, you got me there. Quote
BaitMonkey1984 Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 "Ike" Mike Iaconelli fishes winter league tournaments here in South Jersey against us regular fishermen.  He does not win all the time. So anything is possible. Not too long ago I saw something about this, someone crying that it was unfair that Ike was fishing these tournaments because he is a pro. The guy loves to fish. Th Elite Series is over, and I don't believe he hunts, so I see no issue with hit. From the headlines that I see on the results, he does have a history of pretty good finishes even if he doesn't always come in first. Anything is possible, but not probable. Quote
BaitMonkey1984 Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 He seems like an ok guy. What are we fishing for? Fishing challenge, ill put up one of my wife Italian fresh made pasta, fresh meatballs, sausage, fresh made bread, You put up two dinners at a seafood lobster / fish house. No boat No electronics From shore at my hot spot for four hours or who hits a 6 bass limit first. Catch any other fish but a bass it's minus one point. We split the fishing area in half. In two hours we switch halves. I'd rather fish up against the Irish godfather Charlie Moore in mass. Than fish with KVD. Me the real godfather up against the imposter. They use there rods I use mine. I'm the pro shore bass fisherman. Lol sounds good. I'm just a knucklehead who loves to fish. Fishing with Charlie Moore would be one of life's guilty pleasures. I live outside MA and his show has been a staple for me for years. Good fisherman and great guy. May have more fun off the water with him then on the water, and I do not know if I could say that about anyone else.  My dad loves him and I tried to book a full day guide with him in Winnipesauke earlier this year. His schedule was booked, they added me to the waitlist. I expected as much. I think I have a date held for next year. However, when they told me I was added to this years' waitlist they apologized and asked if I would like some free goodies. I received dads, books, multiple signed photographs, 3 mad fish hats, and all of the spices in his spice collection. Had to be $200 worth of gear because they felt bad that due to his show, family commitments, and other guide clients he was unable to take us out this year. An absolute class act and cannot wait to one day fish with him. Quote
bigfruits Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 id probably have a bigger chance of beating KVD with him using a spincast than I would beating Mike Tyson with one arm tied behind his back. Quote
rboat Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 KVD is a guy who has won tournaments in all parts of the country, in all weather conditions, all water conditions, all different seasons, lakes, rivers, coastal areas, etc. He probably fishes more than most of us, because it is his job. It is not his gear, but his ability to read water and conditions related to bass movements very quickly. He simply knows where they are, which is the biggest part of the puzzle. I am not doubting anyone on this site because I know we have great anglers who help us with this crazy sport we all love, but sorry, my money would be on KVD. I know he would beat me, but it would be fun! Hey ESPN, I think we have a winner for a new reality show. I know it would be better than "Beat Charlie Moore." Quote
Super User scaleface Posted November 10, 2015 Super User Posted November 10, 2015 KVD is a guy who has won tournaments in all parts of the country, in all weather conditions, all water conditions, all different seasons, lakes, rivers, coastal areas, etc. He probably fishes more than most of us, because it is his job. It is not his gear, but his ability to read water and conditions related to bass movements very quickly. He simply knows where they are, which is the biggest part of the puzzle. I am not doubting anyone on this site because I know we have great anglers who help us with this crazy sport we all love, but sorry, my money would be on KVD. I know he would beat me, but it would be fun! Hey ESPN, I think we have a winner for a new reality show. I know it would be better than "Beat Charlie Moore." Who's money wouldnt  be on KVD ?  Everybody here acknowledges that the top pros are better than us . KVD is not magic . He has his bad days just like everyone else . If I was to fish the same area as him I would have almost zero chance . If I found a better spot or area than him,  which is not far fetched , then the odds of beating him are pretty good . Thats all anyone on here is saying .  Quote
Super User bigbill Posted November 10, 2015 Super User Posted November 10, 2015 I would go fish with Charlie Moore and have fun and laughs. Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted November 10, 2015 Super User Posted November 10, 2015 I would go fish with BigFoot and have fun and laughs. There, I fixed that for ya, bigbill, lol Quote
Super User bigbill Posted November 11, 2015 Super User Posted November 11, 2015 Sure share some fish with bf too. Some nice bass. 1 Quote
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted November 11, 2015 Super User Posted November 11, 2015 If KVD never lost any tourney ,,he has ever fished in the last 20 yrs then id be just a little worried.mostly on a big lake with a boat pushing 250 hp and 10 gran in electronics then id sweat a little. 1 Quote
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted November 11, 2015 Super User Posted November 11, 2015 When the week is over and i beat KVD he wont be upset he just knows the rest of the yr he is gonna whooop azz and take names.he is a good guy no matter what. Quote
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