Bassh2o Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 I'm curious in rod cost. Does foam handle cost more then cork handle? Quote
poisonokie Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 I think it depends on the foam/cork. High quality cork that doesn't require filler surely comes at a premium, while certain ultra lightweight, grippy foams seem to be limited to high end rods. Case in point, the foam grips on my ms-x are much nicer than those on my tatulas. Personally, I don't have a preference for either eva or cork. I like both, provided they are decent quality and well sculpted. Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted October 16, 2015 Super User Posted October 16, 2015 A nice, dense 2"x2"x18" EVA block is about $12 on the retail market. High quality cork rings are $5-$7 per linear inch. 1 Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted October 16, 2015 Super User Posted October 16, 2015 Yep, good cork cost considerably more than EVA. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 EVA is hands down less expensive than even mid quality cork, but I'm not sure that fact translates directly in retail rod prices. Costs of maufacturing obviously play a large role, but I'd be surprised if it's 1:1. Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted October 16, 2015 Super User Posted October 16, 2015 Be very cautious of cork on less expensive rods. Not all cork is actually real cork. Some is foam with a cork veneer. Some is a kind of particle board with a cork veneer or a printed cork pattern. Looks like low quality cork. Nope.....veneer over foam. veneer over ground cork. https://www.facebook.com/mike.joyce.161/videos/913560725346336/ 1 Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Good point Scott. I just did a repair job this summer and found one of those on a rod. Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted October 16, 2015 Super User Posted October 16, 2015 Good point Scott. I just did a repair job this summer and found one of those on a rod. That foam one was a full grip musky rod the guy wanted made to a split grip. Imagine my shock when I went to remove the cork and found this. Was a little more difficult than anticipated cause I had to install a real cork grip from the back.......almost 18" from the butt. Quote
Evan K Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 I really don't like eva grips, they look and feel really cheap and ugly IMO. Cork looks classic and feels great. 1 Quote
Super User MickD Posted October 16, 2015 Super User Posted October 16, 2015 I think if I were wondering what comparative material costs were, I would go to about three suppliers' web sites and find out exactly what the costs were for exactly the configurations I was looking for. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 That foam one was a full grip musky rod the guy wanted made to a split grip. Imagine my shock when I went to remove the cork and found this. Was a little more difficult than anticipated cause I had to install a real cork grip from the back.......almost 18" from the butt. Lol. Sounds like dejavu all over again. Quote
WPCfishing Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 I'm a cork fan, I recently came upon a couple of rods I liked that have EVA split grips. The two rods impressed me enough to buy them and forgo the cork. Fortunately they're very comfortable. I think can live with them. If not I'll install full cork in both. Quote
RB 77 Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 That foam one was a full grip musky rod the guy wanted made to a split grip. Imagine my shock when I went to remove the cork and found this. Was a little more difficult than anticipated cause I had to install a real cork grip from the back.......almost 18" from the butt. I've had this happen to me before too. I did a re-wrap and on a Calico rod and went to trun the full grip into a split grip and was blown away! Quote
hatrix Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 I am not site the type of cork Fenwick uses but it is easily my favorite. Just from a aesthetic standpoint it looks more expensive then traditional cork. Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted October 20, 2015 Super User Posted October 20, 2015 I have a guy who has asked me to make him a grip for a fly rod. He wants the best grade cork available. I priced some flor grade cork, and found it up to $2.50 per ring, for 1/4" rings. He wants an 8" grip. That's $80 just in bare cork, plus what I'll charge him to make it. He is re-considering. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Burl and carbon skinned grips are great on a fly rod as they're a little more firm. In burl you're looking at about $12 in materials. Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted October 20, 2015 Super User Posted October 20, 2015 Burl and carbon skinned grips are great on a fly rod as they're a little more firm. In burl you're looking at about $12 in materials. That was my suggestion. He was not exactly open minded about it. The dude seems to be a bit more high maintenance than what I want to deal with. I think I'm gonna have to pass on this one. I'm thinking about posting labor rates in my shop. One price for labor double for customers who want to watch double again for those who want to watch and advise 1 Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted October 20, 2015 Super User Posted October 20, 2015 I haven't even tried carbon skin grips. It may be something I look more into down the road. I have too many other things which are in need of improvement to start something new I can screw up. Quote
Super User bigbill Posted October 20, 2015 Super User Posted October 20, 2015 I see the change in the length of the upper foam handle on some of the better quality higher priced rods. One of my longer foam handles cracked parallel to the centerline of the rod. Quote
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