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As non-boating shore angler, I was wondering if finesse fishing from shoreline make sense? 

 

I was thinking of getting a Orochi XX spinning rod, possibly the Stinger Shot, and learn finesse fishing. Of the Orochi line would this make a good general overall finesse rod, I wouldn't use it for any cranks but maybe some light jerk baits. mostly just use for plastics.

 

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Finesse fishing is not about location. It is about downsizing your lures and fish it slow. For instance, drop shot is my favorite finesse technique. It will take me minutes to retrieve my lure back, and you can do that from bank or on a boat. I have caught a fair amount of bass fishing from shore using finesse techniques. It is still my favorite way to fish…

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No experience on the rod in question, but finesse fishing from shore is absolutely a possibility.  all depends on your water, cover, etc. but i use light line, small lures a lot when fishing 2 small ponds near my house from shore.

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Finesse fishing from shore is about all I've been able to do this summer.....fishing in the South has been tough, at least where I live. You'll quickly learn that a dropshot and shakeyhead aren't just vertical lures!

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Fishing from the bank limits where you can fish and what direction the lure travels..on the surface or always uphill.

Spinning tackle is a good choice for finesse fishing and your rod choice is a high end finesse rod. It comes down to line choice so what line do you plan on using?

Tom

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Fishing from the bank limits where you can fish and what direction the lure travels..on the surface or always uphill.

Spinning tackle is a good choice for finesse fishing and your rod choice is a high end finesse rod. It comes down to line choice so what line do you plan on using?

Tom

 

I have two older Pflueger 4-piece travel rod/reels that have broken rods. I figured I could turn these reels into finesse setup with two different reels. The reels are spec'd for 4-8 lbs, 5.2:1 ratio.

 

I spooled one up with 6lb Berkley Trilene Mono. I also have some Shakespeare Supreme clear 4lb and a spool of original Stren 4lb Lo-Vis Clear, neither of these say if mono or not.

 

The line is at least 5 years old and has been stored in garage. 

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I have two older Pflueger 4-piece travel rod/reels that have broken rods. I figured I could turn these reels into finesse setup with two different reels. The reels are spec'd for 4-8 lbs, 5.2:1 ratio.

 

I spooled one up with 6lb Berkley Trilene Mono. I also have some Shakespeare Supreme clear 4lb and a spool of original Stren 4lb Lo-Vis Clear, neither of these say if mono or not.

 

The line is at least 5 years old and has been stored in garage. 

 

The rod will be perfectly fine for this application, and there is no reason why you can't use it from the shore.

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Finesse fishing works great for bank fishing and many times it can be the only technique catches fish. I fish shaky head, ned rig, drop shot, 1/8  or 1/4 oz jig and small spoons or spinners all the time. They works great here, especially the drop shot. (Almost too effective) 

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I think the Ronin may be a better choice in the XX line up.  I have one and really like it, it can do just about anything.  I primarily use it for smaller jerkbaits, but I have used it for pretty much every finesse/light-line technique at one time or another and it performed great in every case.  

 

FYI, even though it's the heaviest power of the XX spinning rods it's still what I would call a standard 'medium' power.  It's also maybe just a hair slower than a normal fast action, which I happen to like.

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My man, I have caught tons of bass while fishing for bluegills with a UL rod and 4 lb test, my best bass on that kind of set up is a 6.5 lber caught with a Mepps Black Fury size 00 ( no longer available ), but it´s a matter that depends a lot about how much and what type of cover you are going to encounter; that fish came from lake that has no woody cover and very little weedy cover, in other places I fish I would´t dare fishing with such light gear.

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First Fish Chris the trophy Hunter in CA. Uses a ULTRA LITE rod for big bass. I talked with him years ago on his sight and here too.

I use a 5'6" med spinning rod with 6lb test for smaller lighter baits. I even throw a smaller 1/8oz spinnerbait on it too.

I enjoy switching to the 5'6" rods. I started out bass fishing with a 5' med, 5'6" med and a 6' med spinning rods.

I been upgrading to 6'6", 7', 7'2" rods recently. My different setups are like my children I like them all.

It's fun playing a 3lb bass on a 5' setup.

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Any rig can be fished from shore, but the shore fishermen I have observed are missing out on the most productive shore cast.  I'm talking about the cast parallel to shore, ahead of you.  All the time I see guys fan-casting starting out at a 45 degree angle to the bank.  They are missing all those shallow fish that have not yet been spooked.

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Grab a few different colored Senkos and go to town. Besides a lipless crank my second biggest producers is probably a wacky rigged senko on light line.

 

I also fish from shore.

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I absolutely love fishing light tackle and almost all of my reports posted have fished caught of 6lb or lighter line... From shore.

I don't have a boat or know anyone who owns one. My go to is my bfs curado on a phenix recon 682. Before I dipped toes into bfs land, I was all about UL spinning tackle.

My main thing was getting snagged on some shorelines so I fish with the most weedless techniques I can from top waters and suspending jerk baits to trigged and split shot 3" senkos and alive shads.

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68camaro, the rod you mentioned is in the $280 price range, that is a high end spinning rod.

If your budget isn't impacted why use an older reel and 5 year old line?

Your line is the connection between you and the bass, good knot strength, sharp hook, smooth reel drag is what matters after you set the hook. Before you set the hook the rod and reel are important, need to cast a long distance sometimes from shore and a smooth quite operating reel balanced with the rod makes the experience more enjoyable.

The finesse soft plastic rigs that work good from shore are: split shot/ mojo rig, finesse C-rig/ slip shot rig, sliding sinker T-rig, nail weight rig, shaky head jig rig, 1/8-1/4 oz jigs with craw trailers, a wide variety of surface and subsurface lures. All these can be used very effectively with .080 - .095 dia. 6 lb to 8 lb mono, copolymer or FC, or braid with leaders.

If you want details on any of the above, be glad to help.

Looking at the rod details, you maybe better off with the standard ml drop rod, the Xfast tip isn't a good all around action, more suited for vertical drop shot presentations.

Tom

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Great info thanks all.

 

I just went fishing in pond to try "finesse techniques" for 1 hr using my UL trout gear with a 1/4 oz shakeyhead and white split tail worm thingy. Didn't catch anything or any bites but I think it is because pond has soft bottom with alot of algae on bottom. As far as I could see, due to clear water, the shakeyhead sank below the algae. I think a drop shot would have been a better choice as I think It would have kept worm just above algae.

 

As far as rod goes:

 

 

I'd recommend a different rod in the XX line because I don't like solid tips.

 

 

Can you explain why? I read this somewhere also. I did find a review from Outdoor world that called this rod the best finesse rod for 2015. What option is there vs. the solid tips and pros/cons?

 

 

 

I think the Ronin may be a better choice in the XX line up.  

 

 

 

The Ronin recommends lures starting at 1/4 oz. and testline up to 16 lbs and is fast action, I like the Stinger because it starts at 1/16 and is extra fast which I  think will be real good at skipping under docks/tress etc..

 

 

Any rig can be fished from shore, but the shore fishermen I have observed are missing out on the most productive shore cast.  I'm talking about the cast parallel to shore, ahead of you.  All the time I see guys fan-casting starting out at a 45 degree angle to the bank.  They are missing all those shallow fish that have not yet been spooked.

 

 

I have really learned parellel fishing from shore over past month, caught all my biggies within 5 feet of shore. I usually start out close with jig out front, them throwing to left and right, last technique is cranks/jerks fanning way out, then bottom fishing. This usually always works.

 

 

Grab a few different colored Senkos and go to town. Besides a lipless crank my second biggest producers is probably a wacky rigged senko on light line.

 

I also fish from shore.

 

 

My ponds are heavily fished and I never had luck with wacky rig or t-rig.

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68camaro, the rod you mentioned is in the $280 price range, that is a high end spinning rod.

If your budget isn't impacted why use an older reel and 5 year old line?

 

 

Tom, I have the two older Pflueggers and old line around but will look to change reel if I like the finesse fishing. Truth be told Fishing rods/reels are not most expensive hobby I have. Since taken up bass fishing I am saving a lot in ammo costs:) 

 

 

Looking at the rod details, you maybe better off with the standard ml drop rod, the Xfast tip isn't a good all around action, more suited for vertical drop shot presentations.

Tom

 

Good point as I do not vertical fish, what ml would you recommend, in the XX line? I do like going to the real light baits. 

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Rods are personal tools and I am not a MegaBass rod owner. The FS-611XXS drop shot rod has the right specs.

You might want to look at Aaron's Edge Enigma rods, he designed the MegaBass rods.

Tom

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For those that think the Stinger wouldn't be recommended, what do you think of the 70-xxs shaky-headhead. http://www.megabassusa.com/products/orochi-xx-f3%C2%BD-70xxs-shaky-head

 

This might be better for horizontal finesse fishing and skipping under structures.

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For those that think the Stinger wouldn't be recommended, what do you think of the 70-xxs shaky-headhead. http://www.megabassusa.com/products/orochi-xx-f3½-70xxs-shaky-head

This might be better for horizontal finesse fishing and skipping under structures.

Better choice for all around spinning rod. You will be able to cast heavier weights with the mojo or slip shot rigs. I use brass Pro-Jo black weights 1/8 to 3/8 oz, 8mm glass tempered bead pegged with Peg-It and Owner 5133 size 1/0 hook for most slip shot rigging. This is a very effective rig from shore, avoid mucky bottoms if possible or use the lightest weight you can cast effectively.

Tom

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You'll quickly learn that a dropshot and shakeyhead aren't just vertical lures!

 

i usually fish drop pretty fast in shallow water with long casts on a 2 power xf loomis spinning rod. 3/16oz lead weight.

 

doesnt always have to move slow or stay in place. check out 4:10

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Any rig can be fished from shore, but the shore fishermen I have observed are missing out on the most productive shore cast.  I'm talking about the cast parallel to shore, ahead of you.  All the time I see guys fan-casting starting out at a 45 degree angle to the bank.  They are missing all those shallow fish that have not yet been spooked.

X2 I live on a lake and my 1st. cast is always parallel to shore from my dock have caught more fish doing this than going for the deep here's

one of todays catch approx. 15 ft. from shore and 20 or so ft. from my dock

 

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I'd like to squeeze a question of my own into this topic. Does anyone else have major problems getting snagged finesse fishing from shore? It seems like every time I go to reel a texas rigged worm, for example, in towards the bank I'm hung up on something.

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