New Concept Spinning Reel

[chee]

 

Hi everyone!

 

I just finished my fishing reel project prototype #1. It is designed and built based on a regular spinning reel. The main purpose of my design is to improve the controllability and solve the line twist problem. I did this as my Independent study and of course, for fun!!!  Working in the sports fishing field and designing fishing gears is my dream. I figured I might just start doing some small projects and hopefully they can help me get a chance to work for one of the fishing companies there and keep learning.

 

I can’t stop thinking how the technologies today gonna change the future of fishing gears. For example, micro fabrication. Try to think about a super small sensor built into the spool of a bait caster which detects the RPM and sends signal to a control module. Then the solenoid which controlled by the module will apply a brake to the spool accordingly. All of the components can be built almost weightless by micro fabrication. It can give you a 6oz DC reel which has further cast and NO more backlash under any condition.

 

Here is another one. Today, the self-balancing scooter are everywhere so what about a self-balancing compact boat? Not every situation needs a 21-foot professional boat and not everyone can afford it either. For small pond and lakes, a small boat will work much better. With the integration of self-balancing ability, even the little boat can make you feel like standing on the ground. That will be really cool right?

 

Same as lures, rods and all the accessories, you never know, some small innovations or the integration of current technology may change the way of fishing. I know they may sounds a little bit unrealistic but it is fun to think about them. I do have some small ideas in my head, I might start doing some of them if I have time. This semester is pretty crazy though...

 

Any feedback will be appreciated!! And if you have any suggestions which can help me figured out a way to step into the field please let me know. It’s nothing about money at all. Get the chance to working with the professionals, keep learning learning learning and doing what I love is more important than anything. If there is a chance, I will fight for it.                 

[EvanT123]

Chee,

Great idea and video, I applaud your ingenuity.

You wanted feed back so here goes....

The volume needs to be louder on your videos.

I fish spinning reels almost exclusively, with 2 large brands I have not had a wind knot ever? A third happens all the time. I think spool design places a role in this. I happen to think line twist and wind nots are inter-related and braided fishing line has helped mitigate these issues.

You posted an interesting pic from daiwa about the friction as line goes around the spool and roller bearing. With your system doesn't the line holder and reverse oscillation create friction as well?

Anyways seems like an interesting concept and guys like you keep innovation going. Maybe one day we will see one of your ideas in action. Good luck!!!

[WRB]

Sharing your new design concepts could be counter productive for you! Keep in mind any public disclosed of a design concept prior to patent application deems the design public domain, you have less than a year to protect the design. If you are hoping to get design capability exposure to enhance employment

opportunities...good luck!

Tom

[chee]

Chee,

Great idea and video, I applaud your ingenuity.

You wanted feed back so here goes....

The volume needs to be louder on your videos.

I fish spinning reels almost exclusively, with 2 large brands I have not had a wind knot ever? A third happens all the time. I think spool design places a role in this. I happen to think line twist and wind nots are inter-related and braided fishing line has helped mitigate these issues.

You posted an interesting pic from daiwa about the friction as line goes around the spool and roller bearing. With your system doesn't the line holder and reverse oscillation create friction as well?

Anyways seems like an interesting concept and guys like you keep innovation going. Maybe one day we will see one of your ideas in action. Good luck!!!

Thanks EvanT123!  You are right, for this video I did assume the spool won't play a role since I haven't figure out how those spool designs affect the line twist and by how much. I just kept learning new stuff while I was working on my reel. Sometimes a small angle change of a certain parts can make a big difference, they might hard to tell by our eye but that's what makes the big brand big I guess. And that's what I want to learn.   

 

For the pic form Daiwa, there are two situations I believe. I kind of explained it in the privous pic. For daiwa's design, you don't want much friction of the roller surface but others may actually need the friction to operate properly. For my design, the friction is actually needed to untwist the line.

[poisonokie]

Outstanding work! I'm sure Daiwa has an r&d position waiting for you. This is right up their alley. I couldn't even begin to tell you where to go regarding the next phase of your prototype. Good luck!

[chee]

Sharing your new design concepts could be counter productive for you! Keep in mind any public disclosed of a design concept prior to patent application deems the design public domain, you have less than a year to protect the design. If you are hoping to get design capability exposure to enhance employment

opportunities...good luck!

Tom

Thanks for the tip Tom! I actually talked to the patent expert at my university, it's not really worth it to apply one. Patent doesn't really fit into my situation I guess. This is my very first design and it won't be my last. Even if some brand out there used my concept and came up with some reels, not so bad, at least it shows my design gets some value. And that also will be a great time to see how the marke react~ 

 

I am still a beginner when it comes to fishing gear designs, if this prototpye and my future projects can help me win a chance to keep learning in the field, I will be very happy  .     

[EvanT123]

Thanks Kicker! You are right, for this video I did assume the spool won't play a role since I haven't figure out how those spool designs affect the line twist and by how much. I just kept learning new stuff while I was working on my reel. Sometimes a small angle change of a certain parts can make a big difference, they might hard to tell by our eye but that's what makes the big brand big I guess. And that's what I want to learn Hahaha.

You addressed an issue and provided a solution to that issue but you should look at the function of a rod and reel as a whole.

Look at New guide concept, 27x method and fuji KR concept. These are rod guide layout designs that attempt to address the issue of guide and line friction.

For the pic form Daiwa, there are two situations I believe. I kind of explained it in the privous pic. For daiwa's design, you don't want much friction of the roller surface but others may actually need the friction to operate properly. For my design, the friction is actually needed to untwist the line.

Either way there is friction. As an engineer can you measure one type of friction versus another?

[bigbill]

Make the green bracket for the line drop down in front of the spool to cast with one finger. The return trip to reel again.

[chee]

Either way there is friction. As an engineer can you measure one type of friction versus another?

It kind of remind me the WaveSpin MicroWave.

 

Anyway,back to the reel. Good point! I went back and checked my video again and Daiwa's website. I think I have to do some revisions. Yes, both way have friction force but because of the special geometry of the Daiwa Twister-Buster line guide, there is an opposite force creating an opposite rotation to fight against the friction force. So I should have stated the resultant force instead of friction force alone. 

 

(btw, sorry to call you name wrong EvanT123, I got a liitle bit excited and couldn't even tell where the username is. You probably should call me "Fry" then....) 

[chee]

Make the green bracket for the line drop down in front of the spool to cast with one finger. The return trip to reel again.

This is a GOOD idea! 

[Paul Roberts]

Neat! Good luck with your designs. What fun.

 

Hey... you also have illustrated one of the reasons why I do not use drag with spinning reels. I back-reel, and had even designed (sketched) a backreeler spinning reel. Of course, few would buy it. Too tough to wean people away from drag.

[Fisher-O-men]

I must be missing something, but aren't you still taking line from one plane and putting it on another.  I am reminded of this every time I roll up an air hose or cord.  If the end is not free to turn there will be twist. Yes? no?

 

With a baitcaster, the line is on the same plane.

[chee]

Neat! Good luck with your designs. What fun.

 

Hey... you also have illustrated one of the reasons why I do not use drag with spinning reels. I back-reel, and had even designed (sketched) a backreeler spinning reel. Of course, few would buy it. Too tough to wean people away from drag.

Thanks! 

 

Yeah, drag can be quite important when it comes to bigger size hard fighting fish. But you never know, some new brilliant ideas may pop out while you doing the current design! Good luck to you too!

[chee]

I must be missing something, but aren't you still taking line from one plane and putting it on another.  I am reminded of this every time I roll up an air hose or cord.  If the end is not free to turn there will be twist. Yes? no?

 

With a baitcaster, the line is on the same plane.

You are 100% right. Spinning reel including my design will create twists when casting. That's the twist can NOT be eliminated but can be canceled during retrive. That is where the green piece( line twister) comes into place. During retrive, it will twist the line in an opposite direction so the initial twist will be canceled out. It just like you hand when you roll up the air hose, keep rolling and twisting at the same time.