GoCougs14 Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 I'm a bank fisherman, and would use the rod primarily for 3/8th/1/2 oz spinner baits, chatter baits and lipless crankbaits. Also throw some buzzbait and frogs. Maybe the occasional t rigged plastic I don't throw many jigs but I may start to soon, and I imagine it would be a lot of 3/8th with the occasional 1/2 ounce. I have a MH right now. I like having the extra backbone, but I can't cast 3/8th bait quite as far as I like. Would scaling down to a medium power rod significantly improve casting distance? Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted October 14, 2015 Super User Posted October 14, 2015 I use a MH for every technique you listed. You might try to find a MH with a softer tip or even go with a MF action if you want something different. 1 Quote
GoCougs14 Posted October 15, 2015 Author Posted October 15, 2015 I plan on going with a fast action whether it be a M or MH Quote
gr8outdoorz Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 You should not have trouble casting a 3/8oz lure on a MH. You just might need a little more practice with it. If you are just wanting to add another rod to your arsenal then a M power would be a good one to add. As for the techniques you described, I throw almost all of those on MH with a soft tip. Quote
GoCougs14 Posted October 15, 2015 Author Posted October 15, 2015 You're right. It's probably me not the rod. I'm just getting into bass fishing. I'm limited to two rods because I'm shorebound. I know some people have more but that just sounds too inconvienent. I'm pairing it with a ML spinning rod. For the spinning gear it'll mostly be light drop shots and maybe wacky rigs Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted October 15, 2015 Super User Posted October 15, 2015 Put me in the mh club too. Just remember that there is no set standard for power or action of a fishing rod. Some fish heavier or lighter then the ratings suggest. Example Dobyns 3 power or mh as they label it. More like a medium. Abu veritas mh is more like a heavy. Same with tip action or 'taper' as it also referred to. The same 2 rods I used as examples differ from one another a lot. Lure weights are also just suggestions. Tons of good rods out there. What's your budget? 1 Quote
GoCougs14 Posted October 15, 2015 Author Posted October 15, 2015 I'd like to stay around $150, but am willing to go as high as $200 if it really seems like an outstanding rod. Also trying to stay in the 6'10" to 7' range Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted October 15, 2015 Super User Posted October 15, 2015 So many choices with a $200 budget. Just take your pick. Wait for a sale and you can even save a few bucks. Search google for best $150 rod,best $100 rod, best $200 rod and put in 'bassresource' just like that with it. You'll have days of reading. Your head might spin. Kistler St. Croix Dobyns Powell Daiwa Cashion Shimano *** Irod Loomis Then you have the other fun stuff. Full handle Split grip Eva foam Cork Reel seat type Guide size Warranty 1 Quote
GoCougs14 Posted October 15, 2015 Author Posted October 15, 2015 Haha yeah I've done my fair share of reading and there definitely doesent seem to be an undisputed best. I was thinking maybe a st. Croix avid x or a Dawai tatula Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted October 15, 2015 Super User Posted October 15, 2015 Fixed - I knew I forgot one. You can't go wrong with a St. Croix avid series. Great choice for sure. 1 Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted October 15, 2015 Super User Posted October 15, 2015 Haha yeah I've done my fair share of reading and there definitely doesent seem to be an undisputed best. I was thinking maybe a st. Croix avid x or a Dawai tatula Those are both awesome choices. If you decide on the Tatula make sure you shop around, they can usually be found much cheaper than MSRP. Quote
GoCougs14 Posted October 15, 2015 Author Posted October 15, 2015 I'm leaning towards an avid x instead of the tatula. I think I like the x version more than the original(must be the kid in me), but the micro guides kinda worry me. Does the avid series run true with their power or is it a little heavy/light? Quote
PennBass Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 I've owned the Avid X for several months now. I have the 7 foot Medium model: it's light and balances well with any reel basically. Sensitivity is amazing, and you can't beat St. Croix's warranty service if you ever need it. Regarding the micro guides, casting is no problem (in fact, I feel that casting feels smoother than if you used standard guides), and an FG Knot can easily fit through the guides. The power rating is on point. With the medium model, the rod loads comfortably on 3/16 oz. to 5/8 oz. lures. PennBass Quote
poisonokie Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 I use a MH for every technique you listed. You might try to find a MH with a softer tip or even go with a MF action if you want something different. This for sure. MH/MF graphite is definitely the best route, especially for bank fishing. You'll get longer casts, forgiveness for trebles, backbone for jigs, etc, and you be better able to play the fish and steer it around structure along the shore. Go with 6'6"-7' and use 40-50# braid and you'll be ready for anything. Tie on a mono/fluoro leader around rip rap as it will saw through your line like it's silly string. Quote
poisonokie Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 the other thing to consider is a finesse approach, especially in ponds and streams. I definitely get higher numbers with quality bass among them with my light rods, but you are more at the mercy of the fish that way, which is thrilling in it's own right. Quote
GoCougs14 Posted October 15, 2015 Author Posted October 15, 2015 ^ that what I have the spinning set up for 1 Quote
Super User DogBone_384 Posted October 15, 2015 Super User Posted October 15, 2015 I'm no expert, by a long way, but my MH/F Veritas throws 1/2 baits much better than my M rods and is more than respectable with 4" Senkos. What reel is it matched with? Quote
68camaro Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 My first baitcaster is my utility rod, it is a MH, Fast action St. Croix 6'6". Great rod and good for your purposes. Be careful, after I bought my first I bought two more shortly thereafter. I am set with my 3 rod/reel setup........for now:) Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted October 15, 2015 Super User Posted October 15, 2015 I don't think the brand of reel has too much affect on casting distance. No doubt the right one could help get those last few feet, but generally speaking I think most brands/models will give you nearly the same casting distance on average.. I've got Daiwas in many models, a few Shimanos, Abus, Pfluegers, BPS, and a Lews TP and Pinnacle Primmus. Far as I can see the rod will have a greater affect on distance. I use to think that a Moderate-Fast action would probably give the most distance. Not so sure about that after getting my 7'2" MH-XF Powell Endurance. Are you casting with 2 hands? As previously stated several times a MHF should cast 3/8 oz. just fine. However, that will not be true for all MHF rods. I've got a 7'6" MHF that can barely cast a 1/2 oz. lure a decent fishing distance. Forget 3/8 oz. even tho that weight is its lower rating. On the other hand, I have a 7' ML Hurricane Redbone (suppose to be a saltwater rod, I believe) rated 3/8-3/4 oz. that will zing a 3/8 oz. popper the proverbial country mile. Quote
Super User Montanaro Posted October 15, 2015 Super User Posted October 15, 2015 Most soft plastics and hardbaits will weight 3/8 to 5/8. So any rod that handles that range will be good, which is typically MH. Quote
Super User Raul Posted October 15, 2015 Super User Posted October 15, 2015 I plan on going with a fast action whether it be a M or MH You ain´t gonna get more "backbone" from a M rod. In order to cast farther you need to reduce the braking, reduce the spool tension, lower your line rating and get a longer rod. Quote
poisonokie Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 ^ that what I have the spinning set up for Yeah, but once you go bfs, you'll chunk that spinning rod in the lake if you're like me. Or if you don't have a flair for the dramatic, leave it on your rod rack. 1 Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted October 16, 2015 Super User Posted October 16, 2015 You ain´t gonna get more "backbone" from a M rod. In order to cast farther you need to reduce the braking, reduce the spool tension, lower your line rating and get a longer rod. X2. The first 2 may take a little more practicing on your part. Sure did for me. {teeth: Quote
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