Super User K_Mac Posted October 10, 2015 Super User Posted October 10, 2015 WRB I also managed to catch fish in many different conditions on mono for years-Tilene XL in particular, most of the time. When I found copoly I realized that it offered better fishing characteristics for me. For contact baits I now feel the same about fluorocarbon. I guess my point is the only real question when it comes to line is, "What do you use?" "Why" is a subjective judgement, as shown by the numbers of fishermen that both love and hate any line mentioned. 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted October 10, 2015 Super User Posted October 10, 2015 Catt you have caught more bass than I ever will. In spite of that, I will take a good fluorocarbon or copolymer every time, except for crankbaits. WRB all of your data does not reflect the way a line feels when fished. That is information that cannot be ignored IMO. I've fished every fluorocarbon & copolymer made; abrasion resistant & shock absorption of Big Game is far beyond any fluoro or copoly! In the heavy cover (wood) and deep structure I fish these two are a must; the only time I use anything else is punching with braid. Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted October 10, 2015 Super User Posted October 10, 2015 I've fished every fluorocarbon & copolymer made; abrasion resistant & shock absorption of Big Game is far beyond any fluoro or copoly! In the heavy cover (wood) and deep structure I fish these two are a must; the only time I use anything else is punching with braid. ^THIS. I'll just add knot strength to the equation. I started surf fishing at night from the surf with a 20+ wind in your face, and learned how to detect bucktail bites with mono, so this LMB thing is easy. I will say that flouro does transmit more information, but that's cause its stiffer. I like Catt, am not willing to give up the dependability of a good salt water mono, and catch lots of fish. But to each his own. Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted October 10, 2015 Super User Posted October 10, 2015 To convert mm to inches X .03937, .43mm = 0.0169 The 20 lb line chart ranges from .47mm / .0185 to .37mm / .0145.... That is like comparing apples to oranges! Sunline wasn't listed, should be similar to Seaguar line data. Good stuff, you should be able to see why line diameter is important. Tatsu, the gold standard for fluorocarbon line, is listed near the bottom because it's rates the line diameter (.0145) to lb test (20.9) is labeled honestly. Tom tatsu 20 lb. is .37 & breaks at 20.9 lbs. - Gamma copolymer 14 lb. is .36 & breaks at 23 lbs . as you know line sizes are ALL over the place !!!! i imagine Sunline Sniper rates up there in line strength , strongest flouro i've ever used ... Quote
Super User WRB Posted October 10, 2015 Super User Posted October 10, 2015 Don't know how the testing was performed, 10 test samples, remove the high and low and divide by 8 = average valve is the norm protocol. -+/- 10 % is within the protocol, outside of that it's questionable data. Line diameter dominates the data regardless how it's skewed. Big Game is good line and I still use it for crank baits but it's under rated as far as line diameter. Mono or polymer line in the 10-20 lb range should be about 1 lb test per one thousandth (.001) diameter; 12. Lb tests = .012 diameter as a general rule. The old saying "don't confuse me with facts my mind is made up" is appropriate for this topic. Enjoy your thick line, I will use the smallest strongest I can find. Sunline 30 lb test Shooter is .43 mm / .017 D, break strength about 35 lbs, they should label it 17 lb test and everyone would think it's superline, because it is! If you are using 15 lb Big Game you can use 22 lb Sunline Armilo Defier Nyon, 50% stronger at the same .015 diameter! Down side 3X the price! Tom Quote
JustinU1X Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 Yo-Zuri Hybrid works for everything. If you want to get more technique specific, use monofilament for treble hooks. I know you like 6# on spinning gear. Would you still use 6# for both finesse jigs and drop shot or bump up to 8#? Quote
Super User WRB Posted October 10, 2015 Super User Posted October 10, 2015 Using Yo-Zuri 6# you are already using 10# line, it's .010 diameter, it's just labeled 6#, why would you want to heavier? Peace, got to give thus up and give credit to Yo-Zuri marketing labeling. Tom Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted October 10, 2015 Super User Posted October 10, 2015 Yo-Zuri Hybrid #6 has a breaking strength of 19.5 lbs and is exactly the same diameter as Ande Premium #6, .010" http://www.andemonofilament.com/linespecs.php Note too that Ande fishing line accounts for over 1800 World Records. So, although there are no industry standards, I would argue that Ande is a good proxy. 1 Quote
BassThumb Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 Big fan of the standard (not Ultra Soft) Yo Zuri Hybrid! I probably would have never discovered this terrific line had I not found Bass Resource. I use the 10-12# mostly for reaction baits, with 10# being reserved for cranks. I don't do a lot of deep cranking, using a little thicker line doesn't bother me. Mono would offer more stretch and perhaps an extra fish or two, but Hybrid flat-out saves money due to it's toughness and abrasion resistances. Hybrid is also more sensitive than any mono I've used. After all, my local lakes are full of toothy critters that would cut right through mono, but with Hybrid, they just scuff it up and force me to retie a lure that I would have otherwise lost. Quote
hatrix Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 That is true about how a line feels when fished. I guess I never thought of it but I subconsciously take that into consideration on how much I like a line. I still say unequivocally that Tatsu is the best line I have ever used hands down. Casting, feel, stretch, sensitivity, toughness, knot strength, ect. It is so much better then any line I seriously put time in using. I still love a freshly spooled reel of CXX though. It's tuff to beat for what it is. I would like to add Tatsu is worth the investment. Most guys probably change out line so many times that it is equal or more then what Tatsu would of cost for how long it lasts. Quote
Super User Catt Posted October 10, 2015 Super User Posted October 10, 2015 This is my texting ground. Quote
long island basser Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 This is my texting ground. I like that!!! Quote
Super User WRB Posted October 10, 2015 Super User Posted October 10, 2015 Yo-Zuri Hybrid #6 has a breaking strength of 19.5 lbs and is exactly the same diameter as Ande Premium #6, .010" http://www.andemonofilament.com/linespecs.php Note too that Ande fishing line accounts for over 1800 World Records. So, although there are no industry standards, I would argue that Ande is a good proxy. Andre Premium doesn't comply to IGFA rules, Ande Tournament does, 6# is .008 and must have a break strength that doesn't exceed it's rated # test.Your mind is made up, however Yo-Zuri will ever hold a line class IGFA world record with it's current Hybrid. The only person that needs to be happy with their line is the angler using it. Peace. Tom Quote
JustinU1X Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 I recently bought some yo zuri, it was pretty stretchy I was kind of surprised. It was 6#, is that normal? Does it get better the higher the test? Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.