DJTabor95 Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 Hi, names DJ. Just joined but I am very familiar with BR. Was looking for some opinions on a good flipping and pitching rod. I am looking at a few. Daiwa DX-Bass casting rod 7'3 Extra Heavy - Fast action $149.99 Okuma Citrix casting rod 7'11 heavy - moderate fast $119.99 Shimano Compre Flipping Rod 7'11 Heavy - Extra fast $119.99 Opinions and suggestions! Thanks! Quote
poisonokie Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 Daiwa Tatula 761HFB. Svf X45 blank+Fuji alconite guides for sensitivity durability, and light weight. Awesome proprietary reel seat. Nice, sculpted eva split grip. Great fast action tip that isn't too stiff for use with heavy braid and loads of backbone. Casts 1/2 oz frogs like no other and pitches 1/2-1oz jigs effortlessly. They really are extraordinary for msrp and just stupid nice for what they can be found for. Can easily be found for less than $150 tyd. They are just a tiny bit tip heavy with a 7.5 oz reel, but it is a 7'6" rod, after all, and the nice long handle rests comfortably on your forearm while the tip is up. Also, that long handle allows for monster casts and hook sets. It also makes a decent deep cranking rod. The tatula xt and dx rods use a lower modulus blank and aluminum oxide guides, less comfortable reel seats, IMO of course, different grips ( no awesome contoured butt grip) and are probably heavier. Quote
Super User Long Mike Posted October 6, 2015 Super User Posted October 6, 2015 You might want to take a good look at the Okuma Mat Daddy. It's a 7'11" XHF rod in your price range. It's a helluva rod for the money. 1 Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted October 6, 2015 Super User Posted October 6, 2015 On 10/5/2015 at 7:10 PM, Long Mike said: You might want to take a good look at the Okuma Mat Daddy. It's a 7'11" XHF rod in your price range. It's a helluva rod for the money. Is this the rod you are speaking of? I couldn't find one on tackle warehouse called the "Mat Daddy" but this rod has a 7' 11" XHF version, is this the mat daddy? https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Okuma_Tournament_Concept_TCS_a_Casting_Rods/descpage-TCSA.html?from=basres 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted October 6, 2015 Global Moderator Posted October 6, 2015 I have the 7' 11" XHF "Matt Daddy", it's a heck of a rod for the money. It's very powerful but still lightweight and sensitive. Strong enough to rip weeds out by the roots so you can drag them and a good fish in Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted October 6, 2015 Super User Posted October 6, 2015 I might buy one of those Mat Daddys and pair it up with a Pflueger Supreme to be my new heavy cover set-up... Quote
DJTabor95 Posted October 6, 2015 Author Posted October 6, 2015 You might want to take a good look at the Okuma Mat Daddy. It's a 7'11" XHF rod in your price range. It's a helluva rod for the money. I was thinking the same thing as catch and grease. I didn't see any specific names on TW. I did find it on other sites but never a definite price. Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted October 6, 2015 Super User Posted October 6, 2015 Yeah TW almost never puts the rods actual name it seems like... Quote
DJTabor95 Posted October 6, 2015 Author Posted October 6, 2015 I'll definitely look into the mat daddy. Thanks guys! Much appreciated. Quote
georgeyew Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 Don't forget the St Croix Rage rod. The St Croix Bargain Bin has the 7'11 H rod on sale for $89. And if you get two they are $50 each plus shipping (you have to call the store). 2 Quote
WPCfishing Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 I might buy one of those Mat Daddys and pair it up with a Pflueger Supreme to be my new heavy cover set-up... Suggestion; get the XT.. fantastic reel. Fleabay has em' for $119.00 most of the time. 1 Quote
PitchinJigz Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 Daiwa Tatula 761HFB. Svf X45 blank+Fuji alconite guides for sensitivity durability, and light weight. Awesome proprietary reel seat. Nice, sculpted eva split grip. Great fast action tip that isn't too stiff for use with heavy braid and loads of backbone. Casts 1/2 oz frogs like no other and pitches 1/2-1oz jigs effortlessly. They really are extraordinary for msrp and just stupid nice for what they can be found for. Can easily be found for less than $150 tyd. They are just a tiny bit tip heavy with a 7.5 oz reel, but it is a 7'6" rod, after all, and the nice long handle rests comfortably on your forearm while the tip is up. Also, that long handle allows for monster casts and hook sets. It also makes a decent deep cranking rod. The tatula xt and dx rods use a lower modulus blank and aluminum oxide guides, less comfortable reel seats, IMO of course, different grips ( no awesome contoured butt grip) and are probably heavier. Tatula XT has the same blank but different components that make it cheaper. Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted October 6, 2015 Super User Posted October 6, 2015 I've had a 7'11" H Mat Daddy for a few months and love it. It punches, it flips, it deep cranks, it throws smaller swimbaits....the only thing I have asked it to do that wasn't totally satisfactory was deep carolina rigging -- just didn't have the sensitivity I wanted for that. But, it will launch a 10XD into the next county. If that's what you decide to do, I suggest you go to redsgear, sign up for their email - wait 2 minutes for the coupon to arrive and get yours for $100 shipped. Quote
poisonokie Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 Tatula XT has the same blank but different components that make it cheaper. it is not the same blank. It is made with HVF (high volume fiber) graphite vs the SVF (super volume fiber) found in the standard tatula, zillion, and steez rods. There is lower fiber density and more resin in the blank. It's like the difference between "36-ton" and "40-ton" or "IM7" and "IM8" graphite. Quote
Jaw1 Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 Love the tatula rods I've got 2 and wouldn't hesitate to buy another but my 7'6" ducket works pretty good for my pitching setup. Micro magic with straight flouro Quote
DJTabor95 Posted October 6, 2015 Author Posted October 6, 2015 Love the tatula rods I've got 2 and wouldn't hesitate to buy another but my 7'6" ducket works pretty good for my pitching setup. Micro magic with straight flouro Are any of your guides cracked or misaligned? I've read a lot about the inconsistencies of duckett. From messed up guides to broken rods. Quote
DJTabor95 Posted October 6, 2015 Author Posted October 6, 2015 I have also heard a lot of good. Didn't mean to sound like I was bashing them. I just feel uneasy about buying a rod I've read so many different reviews. Quote
UKCATSBASSER Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 I have owned two ducketts. One a ghost and another a micro magic pro. Both outstanding rods. Kicking myself for selling but wanted to try an NRX and needed the funds for that. The ducketts were both high quality rods with no issues. Quote
Jaw1 Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 I have 4 micro magics,3ghosts and one terex and no problems with any of them. I like them use 3 of them alot the other haven't gotten as much playing time this yr not their fault I also have a few phenix rods that seem to always be in the boat. They are great rods also. I limited my rod budget to roughly $200 and my reel Budget to the same a few years ago. Sold my last Loomis rod and I'm not sure if I will ever spend over this again although I am tempted from time to time. Quote
PitchinJigz Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 it is not the same blank. It is made with HVF (high volume fiber) graphite vs the SVF (super volume fiber) found in the standard tatula, zillion, and steez rods. There is lower fiber density and more resin in the blank. It's like the difference between "36-ton" and "40-ton" or "IM7" and "IM8" graphite. "It's the same blank as the Tatula series, different guides, and a different handle." Quote
poisonokie Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 "It's the same blank as the Tatula series, different guides, and a different handle." Well, he misspoke. I watch all those icast videos, too, and misinformation abounds. HVF is not SVF. Quote
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