(='_'=) Posted September 27, 2015 Posted September 27, 2015 hey. on a local lake we have been finding dead fish, maybe since one month ago, without apparent cause... fishing also decreased, from 5-10 fish in 3 hours, we went to 1 fish in the same time, or sometimes zero.... we noticed some fish had these thing in their fins or tails... whats is it?? someone suggested bacteria, because not all fish have it... today i caught 6, 2 had it and 4 didnt.... these are the ones i caught with that... another one, not in the tail, but in the bellys side... i also found this one floating around, still alive but floating... its missing its scales on the rear end.... maybe swallowed and spit by a bass?? and this one was caught one week ago by a friend: the other 4 caught today were normal... what could it be??? thanx!! Quote
CrazyFluker Posted September 27, 2015 Posted September 27, 2015 Don't know what is but I would contact my local fish and game. I'm sure they would like to see it, might know something and if not, may look into it. Quote
(='_'=) Posted September 28, 2015 Author Posted September 28, 2015 Don't know what is but I would contact my local fish and game. I'm sure they would like to see it, might know something and if not, may look into it. we are at it... in fact i kept the one in the first pic and sent it to a lab for them to analyze it.... 1 Quote
Big C Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 I don't know what the problem is, but there is something bad wrong with those fish. Tell us what you find out from the lab. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted September 28, 2015 Global Moderator Posted September 28, 2015 It's late summer/early fall. Fish have been beaten and bruised from the heat, infections, fishermen and other predators. Lots of them have sores and injuries from just being fish. That bluegill looks like it was attacked and spit out, not uncommon to see. I'm guessing by a catfish because bass usually won't try to eat one backwards like that. 2 Quote
(='_'=) Posted September 28, 2015 Author Posted September 28, 2015 It's late summer/early fall. Fish have been beaten and bruised from the heat, infections, fishermen and other predators. Lots of them have sores and injuries from just being fish. That bluegill looks like it was attacked and spit out, not uncommon to see. I'm guessing by a catfish because bass usually won't try to eat one backwards like that. thats what i thought about the bluegill.... however, im not sure what to think about the bass.... this is a lake basically inside the city, it was recenty (about 4 years ago), turned into a park, now its an electric-only lake, no drinking allowed nearby, no 4x4s, etc... it has a bike and running track all the way around, so its basically a park now... therefore, it has public toilets, and i heard from one of the guards of the park, that it had a small water treatment plant to treat the toilet water and then dump it in the lake.... he also said the plant broke about one month ago and the water is being dumped directly from the toilets to the lake... i know this sounds weird, i have never noticed the characteristic smell or anything, but, im in Mexico so i wouldnt be too surprised if this was true.... thats why we are investigating what can be the cause of the death fish and the harmed ones.... Quote
bass_masster Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 Wouldn't worry too much about it, have seen similar on a lot of bass and other fish near their spawn times. Looks like it's from rubbing on the bottom/rocks fanning nests or spawning sites. I've also seen sunfish and bass rub themselves sideways on sand/gravel in the water before as well, it looks like skin rubbing or irriation moreso than lesions or a disease. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted September 29, 2015 Global Moderator Posted September 29, 2015 thats what i thought about the bluegill.... however, im not sure what to think about the bass.... this is a lake basically inside the city, it was recenty (about 4 years ago), turned into a park, now its an electric-only lake, no drinking allowed nearby, no 4x4s, etc... it has a bike and running track all the way around, so its basically a park now... therefore, it has public toilets, and i heard from one of the guards of the park, that it had a small water treatment plant to treat the toilet water and then dump it in the lake.... he also said the plant broke about one month ago and the water is being dumped directly from the toilets to the lake... i know this sounds weird, i have never noticed the characteristic smell or anything, but, im in Mexico so i wouldnt be too surprised if this was true.... thats why we are investigating what can be the cause of the death fish and the harmed ones.... I fish a pond that is all reclaimed wastewater and it doesn't bother the fish. Some of the healthiest, hardest fighting fish around actually. Seriously, I wouldn't be too worried about it, even the dead fish. Mother Nature is unforgiving and the stresses of a long season and hot weather takes it toll on the fish and will be too much for some of them. Unless you start to get a mass fish kill of all species, then you can be worried. 1 Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted September 29, 2015 Super User Posted September 29, 2015 Just like us, fish don't get to grow old without having some ailments. And one year old fish are adults. Everybody's got something. If we're in an environment that's unhealthy sometimes we can just leave it. A fish's environment is all over him. If the water's hot and conducive to bacteria, what's he gonna do? Then the fish isn't even smart enough to know he's got skin lesions. One of the biggest bass I've ever caught, a PB at the time, had actual bleeding sores on its sides and was missing an eye and most of its fins. It was surely about done for but was still eating. Of course, I didn't eat it. Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted September 29, 2015 Super User Posted September 29, 2015 When fishing in Mexico, I have seen this a good bit. The guides always call them "hot spots"?? Jeff Here is one in Mexico- big healthy one in fact! Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 29, 2015 Super User Posted September 29, 2015 The bleeding body sores look like VHS virus, the scale less skin wounds look like a big predator, possible a channel or blur catfish, grabbed the fish. Tom Quote
Super User gardnerjigman Posted September 29, 2015 Super User Posted September 29, 2015 I fish a pond that is all reclaimed wastewater and it doesn't bother the fish. Some of the healthiest, hardest fighting fish around actually. Seriously, I wouldn't be too worried about it, even the dead fish. Mother Nature is unforgiving and the stresses of a long season and hot weather takes it toll on the fish and will be too much for some of them. Unless you start to get a mass fish kill of all species, then you can be worried. True dat. Love that pond. Been a few months since I've been out there. Better go see if I can "force feed" them a wobbler! Quote
Super User bigbill Posted September 29, 2015 Super User Posted September 29, 2015 Chemtrails there dropping nano viruses. 4 Quote
Neil McCauley Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Only sickness sign I noticed is the first fish looks skinny as heck. Quote
Super User everythingthatswims Posted September 30, 2015 Super User Posted September 30, 2015 I've caught a couple fish littered with spots like that in rivers with lots of agriculture runoff. I don't know if there is any correlation. Quote
(='_'=) Posted October 3, 2015 Author Posted October 3, 2015 well, we dont have agriculture close to that lake, as its basically inside the city, it has a 5 mile running track all around it.... today we found some more dead fish.... we are going tomorrow and try to catch a couple with whatever they have, to send to the lab, as the one i sent last week arrived dead and couldnt be tested.... Quote
Super User bigbill Posted October 3, 2015 Super User Posted October 3, 2015 We're I worked we had a pond that never froze in the wintertime. Tons of turtles never fished it too scared too. Quote
Mainebass1984 Posted October 4, 2015 Posted October 4, 2015 It appears that the fish pictured have bacterial infections most likely due to stress that can be attributed to a variety of factors, low water, very warm water, drought, high fishing pressure, poor water quality. A variety of diseases, viruses and infections can cause the hemorrhaging that you are seeing. The only sure way to know is to get a sample from a live fish to a fish pathologist. I think that is most likely Aeromonas or Strep. 1 Quote
Super User bigbill Posted October 13, 2015 Super User Posted October 13, 2015 Nano viruses, nano bugs from chemtrails research it. Quote
(='_'=) Posted October 13, 2015 Author Posted October 13, 2015 It appears that the fish pictured have bacterial infections most likely due to stress that can be attributed to a variety of factors, low water, very warm water, drought, high fishing pressure, poor water quality. A variety of diseases, viruses and infections can cause the hemorrhaging that you are seeing. The only sure way to know is to get a sample from a live fish to a fish pathologist. I think that is most likely Aeromonas or Strep. thats what the biologist from the Fish department told us, its a parasite that presents itself when fish are stressed, and there are a lot of things that can cause that stress.... so, not much we could do about it... hopefully it will at least prevent poachers from taking them, its a C&R only lake, and every time i go there i see people taking fish, even those small 6" fish which barely have any meat... Quote
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