Daiwa Steez Sv

[poisonokie]

Is this basically a USDM version of the SS SV with four more bearings and a different paint job?

[Raul]

No, it is a different reel, there's a slight 150 dollars difference.

[poisonokie]

And? It's also about an ounce heavier. I'm thinking it's the same frame, same spool, same pinion, brass drive gear instead of aluminum (hence the weight), a longer handle with heavier knobs, two extra bearings under each handle, one on the worm shaft, one at the spool tension knob, which clicks while the Ss doesn't, different paint job and cross bar on the front.

[poisonokie]

well, an ounce heavier for the 8.1, a half ounce for the 6.3

[Raul]

And? It's also about an ounce heavier. I'm thinking it's the same frame, same spool, same pinion, brass drive gear instead of aluminum (hence the weight), a longer handle with heavier knobs, two extra bearings under each handle, one on the worm shaft, one at the spool tension knob, which clicks while the Ss doesn't, different paint job and cross bar on the front.

It's a different reel, I own the SS SV and a regular Steez.

[poisonokie]

do you have the steez sv that came out a few weeks ago? I'm not talking about the ex model.

[poisonokie]

No, it is a different reel, there's a slight 150 dollars difference.

It's actually only a $60 difference. The msrp for the Ss is around 339 usd, while the steez SV is $399. Which adds up to 4 more bearings, a brass gear (are those more expensive?), cheaper knobs, and most importantly a Steez label.

[tbone1993]

idc i want one lol

[Hogsticker]

I'm pretty sure the drag stack is different. Single disc on the SS, multi disc on the Steez.

[poisonokie]

I'm pretty sure the drag stack is different. Single disc on the SS, multi disc on the Steez.

 

Yeah, maybe, because the SS has a 4kg drag and the steez has 6kg or 13.2#. Then again, a t3 is rated at 13.2# and has a single disc. Either way, the steez may have a smoother drag. I hear the SS is pretty smooth, though.

[THE_Vue's]

Steez USA is like a Type R version while the SS SV standard.  Same thing, Steez is just a souped up a bit.  I'll stick to the full Magnesuim Steez, EX older steez and 6.3 SV.  Plus they should of kept the flush handle nut on the newer Steez SV.  IMO

[IAY]

USA Steez is the water down(shorter handles, no feel cover, oil, nor blings) version of Limited Steez. SS SV does not have the smooth well connected feels that high end Daiwa Reels has, and is a poor comparison to the new steez sv.

[poisonokie]

USA Steez is the water down(shorter handles, no feel cover, oil, nor blings) version of Limited Steez. SS SV does not have the smooth well connected feels that high end Daiwa Reels has, and is a poor comparison to the new steez sv.

 

my point is that the steez sv is a poor comparison to a steez ex. As the vue said, its just the "type r" version of the SS. The Steez SV, like the SS, doesn't come with a cover or oil, and has the exact same frame shape and materials (Mg frame + Zaion sideplates)

[IAY]

my point is that the steez sv is a poor comparison to a steez ex. As the vue said, its just the "type r" version of the SS. The Steez SV, like the SS, doesn't come with a cover or oil, and has the exact same frame shape and materials (Mg frame + Zaion sideplates)

 

JDM Steez Limited also had the Zaion sideplates and MG frame. You can say the same thing about the Steez EX and SS SV since they share "same frame shape", but the internals are completely different animal. Steez SV has same internals as JDM Steez Limited from what I heard. It's like comparing Metanium 13 to Curado I "because they look the same" .

[poisonokie]

The ex is similar, but not identical like the sv. I'm not comparing it to the ex. Also, you placed "because they look the same" in quotes as if I said that. For the record, I did not.

[IAY]

The ex is similar, but not identical like the sv. I'm not comparing it to the ex. Also, you placed "because they look the same" in quotes as if I said that. For the record, I did not.

 

Yeah I am just making an extreme statement, not quoting you or anything. I just want to get my point across that Steez SV still has the refined internals of Steez that is worth the extra $$ over SS SV in my mind.

[rippin-lips]

JDM Steez Limited also had the Zaion sideplates and MG frame. You can say the same thing about the Steez EX and SS SV since they share "same frame shape", but the internals are completely different animal. Steez SV has same internals as JDM Steez Limited from what I heard. It's like comparing Metanium 13 to Curado I "because they look the same" .

Wait, they're different...

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[k3bass]

Yeah I am just making an extreme statement, not quoting you or anything. I just want to get my point across that Steez SV still has the refined internals of Steez that is worth the extra $$ over SS SV in my mind.

Can you elaborate on "refined internals"?

[IAY]

Can you elaborate on "refined internals"?

 

The retrieve is very rigid, smooth, and you can feel all of the gears fitting into each other perfectly. You don't have that in SS SV; the retrieve just kind of glides through without having any rigidity nor the "gearliness" you would expect from high end Daiwas so it feels much cheaper. 

[poisonokie]

The retrieve is very rigid, smooth, and you can feel all of the gears fitting into each other perfectly. You don't have that in SS SV; the retrieve just kind of glides through without having any rigidity nor the "gearliness" you would expect from high end Daiwas so it feels much cheaper. 

 

That's just due to the aluminum drive gear. Also, I think you're still taking about a steez ex, a $600 reel, vs a steez sv, a $400 reel.

[k3bass]

The retrieve is very rigid, smooth, and you can feel all of the gears fitting into each other perfectly. You don't have that in SS SV; the retrieve just kind of glides through without having any rigidity nor the "gearliness" you would expect from high end Daiwas so it feels much cheaper.

So what are the actual mechanical differences between the two reels that make them feel different?

[Hogsticker]

So what are the actual mechanical differences between the two reels that make them feel different?

The only difference would be the material and how they're machined. I don't think anyone can really say until they own both reels and tear them down. Personally, I'm leaning more towards the USDM Steez SV being a suped up SS SV,closer to anyways rather than the Steez EX. I could be wrong but it seems to be the Daiwa way these days. If you own any TDZs, hang on to them.

[poisonokie]

The only difference would be the material and how they're machined. I don't think anyone can really say until they own both reels and tear them down. Personally, I'm leaning more towards the USDM Steez SV being a suped up SS SV,closer to anyways rather than the Steez EX. I could be wrong but it seems to be the Daiwa way these days. If you own any TDZs, hang on to them.

 

Right, and it's pretty early for someone to have even purchased a steez sv, much less torn it down. I was just hoping someone had. If it has a multi washer drag stack like you proposed, I could see that adding to the cost, and I suppose a brass drive gear may as well, despite the added weight, as would four more bearings, even though that's miniscule.

 

I just wish someone could tell me if there are 2 or 0 knob bearings. Even tackletour says it has no knob bearings and that it has one per knob in the same review, which obviously isn't possible unless Daiwa accidentally sent them a quantum mechanical model.

 

Thanks for being the voice of reason among all the rabble, hogsticker.

[iabass8]

 

 

I just wish someone could tell me if there are 2 or 0 knob bearings. Even tackletour says it has no knob bearings and that it has one per knob in the same review, which obviously isn't possible unless Daiwa accidentally sent them a quantum mechanical model.

 

 

I believe a user review earlier said it was 1 bearing per knob. I only remember from being interested in the reel for a short time. Regardless, it shouldn't carry any weight on a decision. The handle isn't riveted so it can support a 2 bearing upgrade and handle/level wind/drive shaft bearings are something like ,60 a piece if you buy them from RC car vendors.