Is This How You Break A Rod?

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(photo from bassmaster)

[Hogsticker]

I imagine that might happen. Whoopsi

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Yup and the sad part is with proper technique that rod will deadlift probably 4x the weight of that fish. If you must lift with your rod swing the fish to the side of the boat, reel down and lift holding the rod parallel to the water. That way the tip won't be beyond 90* to the butt

[.ghoti.]

That is exactly the way to break a rod.

[rippin-lips]

He's just static testing it.

[Raul]

The problem I see here is the part where it says -------> photo from Bassmasters

 

Why ? because every single wannabe "bass mater" is going to think that since it´s in the magazine/show it´s ok to do that and then we have the famous: my rod broke thread.

[a1712]

That's how my Bud breaks 5+ Legend Extremes every year. He waits till he has a tube full to send them back. I wonder why they cost so much? Brian.

[S Hovanec]

Maybe I'll try that this weekend with my new SCV!

[the reel ess]

The guy in that pic has unlimited access to as many rods as he can break. I don't.

[d-camarena]

I wonder if hes sponsored

[FishTank]

Yap but based on the equipment and $1200 rain suit, looks like he can afford it. 

[Jrob78]

Yap but based on the equipment and $1200 rain suit, looks like he can afford it. 

I doubt he paid for anything you see in that picture, not even the rain suit.  

[bigbill]

A $1,200 rain suit. I purchased Swiss surplus camo poncho rain gear I think it was $10 x2 for my son's. That's $1,180 I have to buy baits.

Sorry there I go off again

If your a pro fisherman your sponcered and paid to use free stuff.

The common fisherman like me and others who aren't pros or sponcered, I feel we can get buy more affordable.

[Montanaro]

Nevermind

[Bluebasser86]

I've heard the best way to lift a fish into the boat is to grab the rod about a foot from the tip and lift the fish in like that? 

[K_Mac]

That's how my Bud breaks 5+ Legend Extremes every year. He waits till he has a tube full to send them back. I wonder why they cost so much? Brian.

This is the reason why even great companies have to modify warranties to keep costs down. How much less would those Legends cost if they didn't have to replace rods broken by careless or thoughtless fishermen? Anything beyond a limited time, manufacturing defect only policy just encourages this sort of thing, and costs all of us more in the long term.

Back on topic, this is only one of many ways of breaking a rod. I haven't used this method, but I have found other ways; some of them just as dumb!

[MDBowHunter]

My brother is the best at breaking rods, but he does it with his trunk lid. Probably ten rods have fell victim to my brothers trunk lid, you'd think after the first he would've learned his lesson...

[kickerfish1]

I find it lazy and unecssary to boat flip fish. If you are made of money or have a rod sponsor by all means have at it. It is not worth compromising a nice rod. Lip the fish, net it, or even grab the line and lift it that way. At the end of the day it is your gear so do as you wish.

[WRB]

No reason to bounce a bass into the boat. Looking at the photo the rod is high stick, max bend and could break at any moment. Having 6' to 7' feet of line from the rod tip is the problem, should be about 18" to 2' of line and let the fish momentum help launch it into the boat. Aaron lost a classic trying that stunt, the fish bounced on the gunnel and fell back into the lake.

Tom

[smalljaw67]

The picture is the classic example of high sticking and pros do it all the time and when asked why they will tell you it is because they are on the clock. I mentioned before that I spoke to someone who designed rods for a living, he told me that he cringes every time he watches a tournament on T.V. and with the new materials and technology today, companies can manufacture rods that are in the 2oz range but unfortunately people are still going to boat flip fish and they will high stick too and break the rod and expect it to be replaced for free. He told me that more than 90% of rods he saw returned were all user error and the two most common themes were high sticking and boat flipping. He told me the best one he heard was a guy that said, "but it was only a 2lb fish, the rod was a MH it should have no problem" and he tried to explain that even if the fish weight 2 ounces it would still be wrong because the rod was not designed to work that way and even though it can be done with proper technique, it is still wrong to do. Another way that rods hav been breaking are on hook sets and the man told me it is almost always with braid and it happens during a thing called snap setting, the person either gets bite from a big fish or it is a snag and they set the hook, but not just rearing back, they drop the rod and that act is what causes the rod to break as it puts slack in the line and the rod goes from no tension to fully bent in one motion and it shocks the blank and snap! Now the reason it doesn't happen when there is tension is because you feel the pressure as you pull up and you end up stopping at the right moment but when you snap set, the movement is so fast because there is no tension or pressure and the rod is moving super fast for a split second and then full pressure and that speed ends up bending the tip section a little too far. Make no mistake, pros do this and they know it and will tell you that they realize it but they are fishing against the clock so saving seconds gives them as much fishing time as possible and it also means they do some bad things with the rods and what it means for us is that rods won't get any lighter until a material if found that works as good as graphite but won't break when flexed passed 90 degrees.

[F14A-B]

Yes! Nothing like poor execution from a supposed professional, lol. Break a $500 rod on a 2 pound fish. Well, we all break rods now & again..

[kickerfish1]

The picture is the classic example of high sticking and pros do it all the time and when asked why they will tell you it is because they are on the clock. I mentioned before that I spoke to someone who designed rods for a living, he told me that he cringes every time he watches a tournament on T.V. and with the new materials and technology today, companies can manufacture rods that are in the 2oz range but unfortunately people are still going to boat flip fish and they will high stick too and break the rod and expect it to be replaced for free. He told me that more than 90% of rods he saw returned were all user error and the two most common themes were high sticking and boat flipping. He told me the best one he heard was a guy that said, "but it was only a 2lb fish, the rod was a MH it should have no problem" and he tried to explain that even if the fish weight 2 ounces it would still be wrong because the rod was not designed to work that way and even though it can be done with proper technique, it is still wrong to do. Another way that rods hav been breaking are on hook sets and the man told me it is almost always with braid and it happens during a thing called snap setting, the person either gets bite from a big fish or it is a snag and they set the hook, but not just rearing back, they drop the rod and that act is what causes the rod to break as it puts slack in the line and the rod goes from no tension to fully bent in one motion and it shocks the blank and snap! Now the reason it doesn't happen when there is tension is because you feel the pressure as you pull up and you end up stopping at the right moment but when you snap set, the movement is so fast because there is no tension or pressure and the rod is moving super fast for a split second and then full pressure and that speed ends up bending the tip section a little too far. Make no mistake, pros do this and they know it and will tell you that they realize it but they are fishing against the clock so saving seconds gives them as much fishing time as possible and it also means they do some bad things with the rods and what it means for us is that rods won't get any lighter until a material if found that works as good as graphite but won't break when flexed passed 90 degrees.

Nice post! I agree 100%

[d-camarena]

I have a question. I have a shimano crucial. You guys probably know about the horrible hook keeper position. I was pitching into some thick grass and i had a bite. The braid had gotten stuck on the hook keeper so when i set the hook the drag was not able to engage. The rod exploded. Shimano replaced it but it didnt seem like they wanted to replace it. What do you guys think shimano should of done? Replace it or no?

Im a small buisness owner myself and i dont like it when customers try to take advantage of me but i honestly feel like it was a manufacturing error

[F14A-B]

I have a question. I have a shimano crucial. You guys probably know about the horrible hook keeper position. I was pitching into some thick grass and i had a bite. The braid had gotten stuck on the hook keeper so when i set the hook the drag was not able to engage. The rod exploded. Shimano replaced it but it didnt seem like they wanted to replace it. What do you guys think shimano should of done? Replace it or no?

Im a small buisness owner myself and i dont like it when customers try to take advantage of me but i honestly feel like it was a manufacturing error

Sounds more like a design engineering issue than anything. Shimano has become testy on warranty claims the last 3 years or so.. Glad you got a replacement.

[WRB]

The problem isn't bending a rod past 90 degrees, it's past 180 degrees as shown in the photo of this thread.

What anglers forget is a fish weighs about 1/3 it's weight in the water, 3 lb bass is less than 1 lb and is moving until it gets airborne by lifting it out of the water, when the inertia stops the weight increases to dead weight over loading the rod. 3 lbs of dead weight will max out a MH bass rod.

Tom