Super User deaknh03 Posted November 26, 2015 Super User Posted November 26, 2015 I've been a Seahawks fan since 1977. I can honestly say I know what it's like to be bi-polar. Not really bipolar..you sucked until 4 years ago. Quote
Derekbass02 Posted November 27, 2015 Posted November 27, 2015 Tough loss last night for the packers Got down t0 the 8 yard line but couldn't get in the endzone. Oh well. Time to move on to the lions game next thursday. Quote
Super User gulfcaptain Posted November 27, 2015 Super User Posted November 27, 2015 How about that Carolina team. Â 11-0. Â And well we can all agree Romo should have stayed on the sidelines and let his shoulder heal all the way instead of trying to come back early and be a hero, now just on the sidelines and a zero. Â Have the feeling the NFC will be headed to Carolina for the last game before the Superbowl to meet whomever is victorious coming out of New England. Â Be a great game though, Carolina vs New England, Newton.....one of the best upcoming QB's against Brady....one of the best. Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted November 27, 2015 BassResource.com Administrator Posted November 27, 2015 Not really bipolar..you sucked until 4 years ago. Â 9 divisional championships, all but 2 since 2004. Â The only thing that sucks is your memory. 1 Quote
Super User gulfcaptain Posted November 27, 2015 Super User Posted November 27, 2015 9 divisional championships, all but 2 since 2004. Â The only thing that sucks is your memory. Hey Glenn, what year did they move from the AFC to the NFC? Â Was that right about that same time frame? Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted November 27, 2015 BassResource.com Administrator Posted November 27, 2015 What primadonnas are on the Eagles now?  he actually got rid of the worst offenders.   Any team with lots of talent and no leaders, is a team full of primadonnas.  Eagles 14 - Lions 45. The LIONS! Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted November 27, 2015 BassResource.com Administrator Posted November 27, 2015 Hey Glenn, what year did they move from the AFC to the NFC?  Was that right about that same time frame?  In 2002, the NFL re-orged the entire league. That's when the Hawks moved from the AFC West to the NFC West. The AFC West has not produced a Superbowl winner since. 1 Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted November 27, 2015 Super User Posted November 27, 2015 9 divisional championships, all but 2 since 2004. The only thing that sucks is your memory. I consider sucking anything besides a super bowl...div champ means nothing..ever. Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted November 27, 2015 Super User Posted November 27, 2015 In 2002, the NFL re-orged the entire league. That's when the Hawks moved from the AFC West to the NFC West. The AFC West has not produced a Superbowl winner since. I dont see the correlation.the hawks never made a bowl in the afc..rarely even made the playoffs..the afc west was strong because of elway and the raiders before that. I think it could be said that if seattle stayed in the afc they would not be where they were the last couple years. Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted November 27, 2015 BassResource.com Administrator Posted November 27, 2015 I consider sucking anything besides a super bowl...div champ means nothing..ever.  Not one team goes the SB every year. So by your definition, they all suck. Every team in the NFL sucks, according to you.  Why are you even on this thread then?  Edit: Ah, I get it. You're a Patriots fan, and spend your time on this thread by attacking fans of other teams. Way to represent. And you wonder why so many people don't like the Patriots. smh Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted November 27, 2015 Super User Posted November 27, 2015 Not one team goes the SB every year. So by your definition, they all suck. Every team in the NFL sucks, according to you. Why are you even on this thread then? Edit: Ah, I get it. You're a Patriots fan, and spend your time on this thread by attacking fans of other teams. Way to represent. And you wonder why so many people don't like the Patriots. smh Thats a cop out..the thread is road to the super bowl..not road to the divisional title.. Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted November 27, 2015 Author Super User Posted November 27, 2015 Not one team goes the SB every year. So by your definition, they all suck. Every team in the NFL sucks, according to you.   To be fair, I would wager if you ask any player/coach /w a competitive nature (which I would would think would be 99% of the players in the NFL), a season where they did not win the super bowl is considered a season that "sucked" and/or they "sucked".  If you want to be blunt, there are 31 teams that suck each year and 1 that doesn't. Bragging about making it to the AFC/NFC champion ship game and losing is just bragging about being a loser. 1 Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted November 27, 2015 Super User Posted November 27, 2015 To be fair, I would wager if you ask any player/coach /w a competitive nature (which I would would think would be 99% of the players in the NFL), a season where they did not win the super bowl is considered a season that "sucked" and/or they "sucked". If you want to be blunt, there are 31 teams that suck each year and 1 that doesn't. Bragging about making it to the AFC/NFC champion ship game and losing is just bragging about being a loser. Right on. My team sucked forever. Sure they made the playoffs and a couple bowls..but they lost. When you lose, your a loser. Unless of course everyone gets a trophy. Quote
smallies24/7 Posted November 27, 2015 Posted November 27, 2015 Anyone who thinks the Patriots will represent the AFC in this years super bowl is just plain wrong... Sure theyre the best AFC team, but their players are falling like flies. They are too injured and not deep enough to go all the way. Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted November 27, 2015 Super User Posted November 27, 2015 Anyone who thinks the Patriots will represent the AFC in this years super bowl is just plain wrong... Sure theyre the best AFC team, but their players are falling like flies. They are too injured and not deep enough to go all the way. Could be but theres no other strong team..Arizona and Carolina are the best right now. Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted November 27, 2015 Author Super User Posted November 27, 2015 Anyone who thinks the Patriots will represent the AFC in this years super bowl is just plain wrong... Sure theyre the best AFC team, but their players are falling like flies. They are too injured and not deep enough to go all the way. I get what you're saying but you could argue that anybody that thinks the Pats don't have the greatest chance of going to the Super Bowl is delusional. Who honestly has a realistic shot at standing in their way? If Denver's offense had any life I would say them but it's already been proven that if you put any points up against their defense they just can't keep up regardless of how elite their defense is. If not Denver, you're banking one of the following: CIN, KC, PIT, INDY, OAK, BUF, NYJ, HOU.....I'm not a Pats fan but to think any of those teams stand a greater shot than NE is silly. If any coaching staff can turn nothing into something, it's NE (and clearly Carolina). Obviously any team can win on any given day but REALISTICALLY, injuries or not, this is NE's conference to lose.  NFC..it's Carolina and Ari and it isn't close but strange things do happen...you can never count out the NYG. Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted November 27, 2015 BassResource.com Administrator Posted November 27, 2015 Thats a cop out..the thread is road to the super bowl..not road to the divisional title..  Correct, but that doesn't give you license to troll. To be clear, this thread is NOT about attacking other people who don't root for the same team as you.  Fair warning. 1 Quote
smallies24/7 Posted November 27, 2015 Posted November 27, 2015 I get what you're saying but you could argue that anybody that thinks the Pats don't have the greatest chance of going to the Super Bowl is delusional. Who honestly has a realistic shot at standing in their way? If Denver's offense had any life I would say them but it's already been proven that if you put any points up against their defense they just can't keep up regardless of how elite their defense is. If not Denver, you're banking one of the following: CIN, KC, PIT, INDY, OAK, BUF, NYJ, HOU.....I'm not a Pats fan but to think any of those teams stand a greater shot than NE is silly. If any coaching staff can turn nothing into something, it's NE (and clearly Carolina). Obviously any team can win on any given day but REALISTICALLY, injuries or not, this is NE's conference to lose.  NFC..it's Carolina and Ari and it isn't close but strange things do happen...you can never count out the NYG. That's a great point, especially with Cincy losing its last two and finally coming back down to earth. However I think the AFC will be won by whoever gets hot at the right time, not the best team. The patriots are undoubtedly the best team in the AFC, but with so many borderline good teams, I think it will be whoever starts rolling at the right time. Quote
Super User gulfcaptain Posted November 27, 2015 Super User Posted November 27, 2015 All teams get hurt during the year. Â If anything has been learned watching New England play over the last 10+ years, they always seem to find a piece and play to their best with what they have which at times is better then teams at 100%. Â Right now there is a bunch of teams that seem to be going through the rebuilding stage and just haven't figured it out yet while others are struggling trying to figure it out. Â As we all know, anything can happen on any given Sunday, it comes down to what team plays the best. Â Bottom line, so many teams struggling they become dangerous as they have nothing to loose. Â But having players go down in the middle of the season depending on the injury have a chance to come back at the end of and be ready for the playoffs, but you have to win to make it to the playoffs. Â If the New England and Carolina happen to win and clinch their divisions and home field the star players will see limited playing time as so they can be 100% when the playoffs come around where other teams that are all in the middle battling it out for those remaining spots won't. Â Denver and Cincy will be fighting for that #2 spot and odds are Arizona and Green Bay will be doing the same thing in the NFC. Â The other remaining spots are so close right now as almost every team is still in the picture except a few. Â Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted November 27, 2015 Super User Posted November 27, 2015 Any team with lots of talent and no leaders, is a team full of primadonnas.  Eagles 14 - Lions 45. The LIONS! That makes no sense....Also the eagles haven't been some powerhouse this season either so a loss to the lions, who only had one less win than the eagles isn't really that surprising.  The only part of the Eagles that has been decent this year is the defense, till the last two games lol Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted November 27, 2015 Super User Posted November 27, 2015 I don't have a dog in the hunt, and really don't much care who gets to the Super Bowl, or who wins it. Just for the sake of argument I think the idea that anything short of winning the SB is a failure is silly. There are great teams every year that fall short. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted November 27, 2015 Super User Posted November 27, 2015 I don't have a dog in the hunt, and really don't much care who gets to the Super Bowl, or who wins it. Just for the sake of argument I think the idea that anything short of winning the SB is a failure is silly. There are great teams every year that fall short.  cowboys fan?  the goal is to win it all not get close.  Sure you can have a good season but ultimately it is a failure if you don't win it all. 1 Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted November 28, 2015 Author Super User Posted November 28, 2015 I don't have a dog in the hunt, and really don't much care who gets to the Super Bowl, or who wins it. Just for the sake of argument I think the idea that anything short of winning the SB is a failure is silly. There are great teams every year that fall short. How is that notion silly? The goal of each and every single organization is to win the super bowl. Regardless of the pre season expectations (or lack their of), every team goes out there to win it all. "Let's win it all" is always the motivator for every team, especially for teams not expected to make it. This is why you hardly if ever see teams that are 3-12 in week 16 just give up. They are there to play and win. If Carolina goes 15-1 or even 16-0 and loses in the NFC championship or even loses the Super Bowl, they obviously have a great season to hang their hat on but anything short of getting that far and winning is a failure to any organization. . There are great teams every year that fall short. Absolutely there are great teams every year that fall short. However, these teams aren't playing for "good enough" or "let's just make the playoffs this year". They play to win. Anything short of that is a failure. They don't want and wouldn't accept a participation trophy. .  Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted November 28, 2015 Super User Posted November 28, 2015 Isn't the goal to achieve the most with the talent available? In spite of the leagues attempts at parity, there are more teams that making the playoffs would be a minor victory than teams with a realistic shot at the championship. I don't understand why getting beaten by a better team is somehow a total failure. The idea that winning at any cost is the only acceptable outcome represents everything that is wrong with professional sports in general, and the NFL in particular in my opinion. And no, I am not a Cowboy's fan. Jerry Jones is not a favorite... Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted November 28, 2015 Super User Posted November 28, 2015 Isn't the goal to achieve the most with the talent available? In spite of the leagues attempts at parity, there are more teams that making the playoffs would be a minor victory than teams with a realistic shot at the championship. I don't understand why getting beaten by a better team is somehow a total failure. The idea that winning at any cost is the only acceptable outcome represents everything that is wrong with professional sports in general, and the NFL in particular in my opinion. And no, I am not a Cowboy's fan. Jerry Jones is not a favorite... Nobody said anything about winning at any cost. Quote
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