Blackbird86 Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 Ive got a couple shakespeare ugly stiks...the ones with the clear fiberglass tips. The tips broke off years ago and are now lost. Was wondering...could i just cut the pole down so the second eyelet was at the tip functioning as the last eyelet? Would that work? Quote
CDobber Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 Sure, or you can go buy a kit for about $4 that has extra tips and glue to fix it.....I did that to a pole a couple years ago that broke off while beating brush to get to a shore spot....lost about 3" on it but still works fine.  Pole wasn't old and probably could have done a warranty exchange, but would feel guilty knowing it wasn't workmanship defect but my own fault.   Something like this:  http://www.***.com/Berkley_Rod_Tip_Repair_Kit/descpage-BDRDK.html  (the stars were from TW....forgot it blocks out site names on occasion) Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 9, 2015 Super User Posted September 9, 2015 The old rods need to be thrown away, you are wasting time and money trying to fish with them. Tom 2 Quote
Dave Jakes Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 It's certainly going to change the specs of the rod. A large portion of the action of the rod comes from the way the tip responds to all the variables that are put on it. If it was a relatively light power with moderate action, it will probably feel more like a heavier rod with a faster action. Obviously as you lose length you'll lose casting distance. However, to say that you're wasting your time and money still using it is ridiculous. If you're not REALLY into the sport, it won't make much difference, and if you're using Ugly Sticks, you're probably not REALLY into the sport, enough where it's going make a difference anyway. After all, 100 years ago people caught fish by tying string onto the end of a stick! In my opinion, you'll be fine still using the rod. Personally I'd probably go get another one, but in your situation I'd guess you're not going to catch any less fish because of it, so no big deal. Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted September 9, 2015 Super User Posted September 9, 2015 I agree with WRB, although they might make good tomato stakes. The rods will have a bit slower action since more of the rod will be used when pressure is applied. 1 Quote
Kentuckysteve Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 They can be fixed.If you just want the rods to work then buy you some tips and fix them.Its never going to be a great rod and never really was but it will still fish.I definitely would not cut it down to the second eye. Quote
Super User Scott F Posted September 9, 2015 Super User Posted September 9, 2015 I've got a rod with an inch or two broken off the tip and I can't tell the difference. It's an easy and cheap fix. 4 Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted September 9, 2015 Super User Posted September 9, 2015 I also fish a rod that lost about 2" after a break. I was even able to use the original tip-top to repair it. Â Not much difference in action between a 7'6" MH-Mod and a 7'4". Â I also still have a BPS Extreme BC rod that was originally 7'. It broke about 6" down from the tip...and just above the first guide. There wasn't enough rod blank past the guide to install another tip-top. The first guide was a single-foot guide so I trimmed the blank back to that guide. Fished it for a couple months while I was waiting to decide on it's replacement. I caught 49 fish with the rod in that configuration, including a 35-pound class grass carp. BUT, in this case, 6" was too much. The rod went from being a fast action...to an extra, extra-fast action. Â I keep it around for those times when I need an extra rod, but it's not much fun to fish in this configuration... Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 10, 2015 Super User Posted September 10, 2015 The old Ugly sticks with the clear upper top section was about 8'" long, the rod is already broken off more than 8". The rod needs to be cut off cleanly, no broken fiber. The guide next to the new tip removed, then a new rod tip that fits whatever diameter the rod is where it's cut off can be installed. We you get done you have a rod that doesn't bend like it should and can't cast very well. You need a new rod tip guide and whatever used to cement on aligned correctly, cost about $5. Your old rod wasn't worth much and provided some fishing time, a new rod can be found on sale for under $20. Tom 1 Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted September 10, 2015 Super User Posted September 10, 2015 It's a shame to just toss it away. If you don't want to use it, put a tip on it and give it to a kid, or even an adult, who can use it for pan fish, or maybe even a bass or two. It's certainly a lot better than nothing for someone who cannot afford a "quality" rod.  It's a lot better than the bamboo and kite string rig that I started fishing with, and that I had a lot of fun catching perch, sunfish, and the very occasional pickerel. Bass? I didn't even know what they were back then.  They hadn't been created yet. 3 Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted September 10, 2015 Super User Posted September 10, 2015 I am not opposed to repairing a broken tip. I have a couple that I use regularly. Repairing a heavy, dead old rod makes no sense to me. For a couple of bucks a replacement rod of higher quality can be purchased. Giving that rod to anyone would not be doing them any favors. I am all for giving kids equipment and tackle, but I would not give them junk. 1 Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted September 10, 2015 Super User Posted September 10, 2015 I am not opposed to repairing a broken tip. I have a couple that I use regularly. Repairing a heavy, dead old rod makes no sense to me. For a couple of bucks a replacement rod of higher quality can be purchased. Giving that rod to anyone would not be doing them any favors. I am all for giving kids equipment and tackle, but I would not give them junk. Â One man's "junk" is another man's treasure. 2 Quote
GodfatherOfSeoul Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 I catfish with my old broken tipless rods. Pan fish is good too. Its an ugly stick, you can def find some use for it after shaving it down or replacing the tip. When I first started bass fishing, i caught most of my fish on old, cheap and broken rods instead of my st croix. Today, I keep a couple cheaper rods for when a kid or novice wants to learn but if I break a tip, I usually just sell them on craigslist and let them know its broken. Usually my combos are like 1 for 15 2 for 25 and 3 for 30. Someone always comes get all of them Quote
Super User bigbill Posted September 10, 2015 Super User Posted September 10, 2015 Put a new tip on it like it is. The last rod tip I cut off was sticking out my side window. I had my new $300 fly rod I got on clearance for $125 with reel, line, leader ready to go. Kittery Trading Post hooked me up. I had the new fly rod setup out for its first try. I murdered the panfish. I loaded it in the car in the dark. When I heard the crunch I knew what it was. I put a new tip on it and a tiny spinning reel for crappies. Quote
S. Sass Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 Ive got a couple shakespeare ugly stiks...the ones with the clear fiberglass tips. The tips broke off years ago and are now lost. Was wondering...could i just cut the pole down so the second eyelet was at the tip functioning as the last eyelet? Would that work? I would leave as much length as possible. Get the replacement tip like already mentioned for under $5 and follow the simple instructions that come with it. For someone with no rod that would be a great thing to have. Its sure not going to hurt them to have lesser equipment when they never had better. Quote
jbw252 Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 It's a shame to just toss it away. If you don't want to use it, put a tip on it and give it to a kid, or even an adult, who can use it for pan fish, or maybe even a bass or two. It's certainly a lot better than nothing for someone who cannot afford a "quality" rod.   X2...My feelings exactly. Quote
Blackbird86 Posted September 10, 2015 Author Posted September 10, 2015 Thanks for the informed replies. Ill probably get that berkley kit and fix em. Ive got a buddy just starting to get into fishing so ill prob let him use em 1 Quote
Super User senile1 Posted September 10, 2015 Super User Posted September 10, 2015 It depends on the rod. Â A medium or light rod with a parabolic bend isn't affected much by losing a couple of inches and replacing the tip. Â My shallow crankbait rod is like this and it works fine. Â However, if I lose a couple of inches on a jig or worming rod that is a different matter. Â I would replace those rods, but that is just my take. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 The useability of a rod with the tip shortened depends on the original power and action and what you'll be able to do with it. Shortening any rod tip will increase the lure weight rating and slow the action. From the description of the rod and the break, this one won't likely be very pleasurable to fish except for maybe vertically with a heavy jig or spoon maybe. A builder can use the parts for repairs if you know anyone. Â A running guide can work on the tip. I use them on float rods for ythe added height and used them frequently before Micro Tops were readily available. Â Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted September 10, 2015 Super User Posted September 10, 2015 I just yard sold 2 25 year old 5'6" BC rods, both of which I'd fixed the tips on and they stayed fixed. I also have a 9' (now 8') crappie rod that the tip broke on. I filed it down just beyond the next guide. It works fine and has a little different function now. Quote
hatrix Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 Really it's only a couple bucks to get tips and glue so why not. My step father has a old ugly stick that would probably benefit from cutting the tip off. I want to say it's like a 7'6" or even 8' and that thing would flop around in the wind it's so flimsy. I am actually going to replace a tip today since I can home yesterday and someone decided to put my ultralight rod wedged under the shelf in the closet. I am not really having high hopes for that one. I really like that rod too. Quote
Fisher-O-men Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 Cangrats, fix the tip and you have a new catfish rod! Quote
WPCfishing Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 I have a Falcon spinning rod that was 7'6" 1/4-3/4. I bought it for surf casting. It was really whippy so I cut it down to 6' 10" and put a new tip on it. Cast great now, has a lot more and quicker hook setting power and back bone. For six bucks it's probably worth putting a new tip on it and trying it out if you can live with the weight. That's a heavy rod. Quote
Josh Smith Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 Used to be folks would cut down rods to make them stiffer. They became jerkbait rods.  Josh 1 Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted September 11, 2015 Super User Posted September 11, 2015 I broke about 4" off of a standard MHF bass casting rod, it was virtually unusable after the break. Â It was just too heavy and too fast. Quote
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