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How can a rod with a lure weight rating of 3/16-5/8 be in the Medium Heavy family? I would think at a minimum a medium heavy would be 1/4-3/4. Has anyone held a new Lews IM8 T1 rod?

 

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There are rods like that, I don't understand it but I know Fenwick has a spinning rod rated to 3/8oz that is a MH and so does Quantum. The very reason for it though is there is no industry standard so they can call anything a Mo or MH, it doesn't matter. I may email Lews and see why this is as now you made me wonder as to the reasoning of labeling a rod with that power designation.

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It's rated MH because they know it will sell better with that rating.

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Because there is no standard. It's all subjective so it is what they call it. It's like calling them short, medium or long. What's short? 5', 6', 6'6"?

 

Then it's useless print. No way to know unless you pay the price for the rod, shipping and shipping again if the rod is wrong for you. It sure is tough out there, Glad we have the forum.

I ended up passing on the T1 and bought a Dobyns 734 based on the advice that came from members. 

Seems to me Bass Pro, Cabela's and Dicks are out to lunch. They want to sell they're own brands now. If the Rod companies out there who refuse to be dictated to and want to keep the independent dealers in business they should have a 5 rod inventory minimum so guys like us can get a look up close. If not they should pay Glen a royalty for every rod purchased by a member based on the advice they've received here.

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Then it's useless print. No way to know unless you pay the price for the rod, shipping and shipping again if the rod is wrong for you. It sure is tough out there, Glad we have the forum.

I ended up passing on the T1 and bought a Dobyns 734 based on the advice that came from members. 

Seems to me Bass Pro, Cabela's and Dicks are out to lunch. They want to sell they're own brands now. If the Rod companies out there who refuse to be dictated to and want to keep the independent dealers in business they should have a 5 rod inventory minimum so guys like us can get a look up close. If not they should pay Glen a royalty for every rod purchased by a member based on the advice they've received here.

They should, but they won't. It's all about money with those big corporations.

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I have a Fenwick spinning rod that is a MH but it is rated 1/4-1oz so.. That's what I would consider a MHfor sure. I have casting rods that are MH and say they go up to 3/4. I don't really consider that quite a MH yet. It should be a ounce or better to be a MH to me. But there is no standard.

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To some degree I separate Lure weight rating and power rating. It's possible to have two blanks with the same lure weight rating but one having a beefier butt section. One labeled Med the second Med-Hvy. That's just one scenario. There is a system called CCS (Common Cents System) used by a number of custom builders as well as some fly rod companies, the purpose of which is to put actual incremental measurements on power, action and recovery speed. It's way too involved to get into here, but it works and could be applied if the industry wanted to but don't hold your breath.   

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I once had a medium heavy casting rod that was rated 1/4 - 5/8oz.   Thats when I decided that there must not be any real relationship between lure weight and rod power.

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I guess it might depend on the intended use. A medium swimbait rod might equate to an extra extra heavy jig rod, whereas a med hvy cranking rod might be closer to a med jig rod.

  • 2 weeks later...
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I'm considering a part time rods by appointment business.

Choose a brand. Buy one of every bass rod for inventory display.

Fisherman stops in, gets a look and feel, decides

on which he wants and I have it shipped in for him.

Sell the demo inventory off at the end of the year and

replace with current models. No Joke.. I'm serious.

What would really be smart is to find 49 other guys to do

the same thing. That way we could place our demo orders

at the same time and get better deals. PM me if your interested.

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I'm considering a part time rods by appointment business.

Choose a brand. Buy one of every bass rod for inventory display.

Fisherman stops in, gets a look and feel, decides

on which he wants and I have it shipped in for him.

Sell the demo inventory off at the end of the year and

replace with current models. No Joke.. I'm serious.

What would really be smart is to find 49 other guys to do

the same thing. That way we could place our demo orders

at the same time and get better deals. PM me if your interested.

the problem with that is you would go broke very soon. todays shoppers like to demo them then go home and order from the cheapest online supplier. i see people on this forum admit to it and recommend that others do the same.

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You don't actually have to pay outright for eveeything that would be in your store. You know this right? You get stuff on consingment.

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